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dimethylnandrolone

Gutterpump

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I haven't seen any discussion on this forum about this new designer steroid, which is being considered to be a better candidate for hormone replacement therapy & as a male contraceptive.

In less words, this steroid looks superior to MENT / Trest, because it is more androgenic while having even less effect on the prostate than MENT / Trest. It's profile on Ergo-Log looks incredible.
 
In for da infoz
 
Anyone producing this compound?
 
Googling the name shows posts from 2007 about it. Seems very toxic. If it's the same compound I dont know...
 
DonnieM said:
Googling the name shows posts from 2007 about it. Seems very toxic. If it's the same compound I dont know...
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What I saw is an injectable. I wonder if the convo about it being toxic is about it's cousin Check Drops? I couldn't see something that's meant to be taken as male hormone replacement therapy being overly toxic. Hrmmm
 
Everything I saw was an oil as well. It was all ugl stuff at first glance. Wonder if anyone is selling the oral version? Is there an oral version?

If it's a kin to cheque drops then well dayyyummm.
 
Yup, only seeing UGL stuff. I'd love to see it come out more in the open like trest did, especially since it's replacing it now in the medical field.

Another interesting thing about it, they're claiming a very hard shutdown from it, but also make claim that it won't affect ejaculation and that it's a 100% reversible shutdown. I bet the higher androgenicity is what makes it better in the sex department, but I couldn't imagine it being better than trest! Lol
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup, only seeing UGL stuff. I'd love to see it come out more in the open like trest did, especially since it's replacing it now in the medical field.

Another interesting thing about it, they're claiming a very hard shutdown from it, but also make claim that it won't affect ejaculation and that it's a 100% reversible shutdown. I bet the higher androgenicity is what makes it better in the sex department, but I couldn't imagine it being better than trest! Lol
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Hey man clear your PM's lol.
 
Compared with testosterone, dimethylnandrolone displayed approximately 136 times greater anabolic activity. Yes, that was not a typographical error. It had 136 times, not 136 percent, greater anabolic activity. Its androgenic activity was shown to be 14-37 times greater than that of testosterone, making this not only an exceedingly potent steroid, but also one with a high ratio of anabolic to androgenic effect. Compared to MENT, DMN was five times more anabolic with two to five times more androgenic activity based on SV and VP assays, respectively.
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Wow.... so this truly is more potent than MENT. Damn....
 
Yup, looks like only a 3-4 week type compound. It does claims that toxicity is ok when kept at no greater than 1mg/day. Dry gains on this too.
 
This is definitely not something that I'll ever be able to run, but I'd love to see a log on it. Methyl's don't agree too well with me anymore. Must be my old age lol

From what I see, it seems to only be available in a blend with methyltrenbolone though. Deadly stuff..ughh
 
Stumbled upon Invalid Link Removed is my searching. 7 years later and still not much first-hand info out there.
 
is it not illegal by default being its a nandrolone? just like all the tren analogues are illegal by default as well? this is probably why you are only finding it in UGLs
 
In my very narrow scope of searching, I haven't seen an oral version. And only mixed with methyl tren? Phucc dat chit
 
I'm down to try it
 
bighulksmash said:
I see . Holy shyt . Yeah thats a harsh 1 eh ?
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Yep. Look up methyl tren they were talking about it being blended with, a:a ratio is around 17 thousand!
 
Gutterpump said:
I haven't seen any discussion on this forum about this new designer steroid, which is being considered to be a better candidate for hormone replacement therapy & as a male contraceptive.

In less words, this steroid looks superior to MENT / Trest, because it is more androgenic while having even less effect on the prostate than MENT / Trest. It's profile on Ergo-Log looks incredible.
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Maybe I missed something so I apologize in advance but if this stuff is so toxic, how the heck can it be considered a "better candidate" for HRT?
 
Whacked said:
Maybe I missed something so I apologize in advance but if this stuff is so toxic, how the heck can it be considered a "better candidate" for HRT?
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It was probably originally synthesized for a trt replacement but then it's toxicity was discovered. Lots of things look very promising in vivo but act/perform completely different in vitro.
 
yates84 said:
It was probably originally synthesized for a trt replacement but then it's toxicity was discovered. Lots of things look very promising in vivo but act/perform completely different in vitro.
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Usually it's the opposite
 
Whacked said:
Maybe I missed something so I apologize in advance but if this stuff is so toxic, how the heck can it be considered a "better candidate" for HRT?
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This is a great point, was wondering the same. Likely the dose required as a male contraceptive / trt dose is but a slight fraction of what would be used by a bodybuilder.

It's not intended for long term trt usage, but as a male contraceptive with trt effects while on.
 
yates84 said:
It was probably originally synthesized for a trt replacement but then it's toxicity was discovered. Lots of things look very promising in vivo but act/perform completely different in vitro.
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DMN is being studied as a replacement for trestolone, so it's much newer and more current. I believe it's the most promising male contraceptive being studied, and I've read the toxicity at the male contraceptive dosage is not a concerning level.
 
Gutterpump said:
DMN is being studied as a replacement for trestolone, so it's much newer and more current. I believe it's the most promising male contraceptive being studied, and I've read the toxicity at the male contraceptive dosage is not a concerning level.
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I definitely agree, barely any hormone is needed to throw off male hormones and act as a contraceptive. I believe trest was used around 1mg ed as a contraceptive.
 
yates84 said:
I definitely agree, barely any hormone is needed to throw off male hormones and act as a contraceptive. I believe trest was used around 1mg ed as a contraceptive.
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Do you know if trest at ~1mg daily will also elicit enough of an effect for trt purposes? I'd been wanting to try cruising on it, but looking for the right dosage to do so.
 
Gutterpump said:
Do you know if trest at ~1mg daily will also elicit enough of an effect for trt purposes? I'd been wanting to try cruising on it, but looking for the right dosage to do so.
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I would say 50mg would be a more appropriate cruising dose but I wouldn't reccomend cruising on trest just because of how androgenic it is
 
Gutterpump said:
Do you know if trest at ~1mg daily will also elicit enough of an effect for trt purposes? I'd been wanting to try cruising on it, but looking for the right dosage to do so.
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According to this, it says 1/3 of the TRT dose is recommended. The suggestion is 35mg/wk.

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Gutterpump said:
I thought it has less effect on the prostrate than test, in studies?
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Maybe in studies but man, it made my prostate hurt like hell after 9 weeks of use. Trest really killed my skin as well.
 
yates84 said:
Maybe in studies but man, it made my prostate hurt like hell after 9 weeks of use. Trest really killed my skin as well.
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It was tough on bacne for me as well but I had no prostate issues at 50-75mg ace daily (12 weeks). But I think you're right, not the best for cruising.
 
yates84 said:
Maybe in studies but man, it made my prostate hurt like hell after 9 weeks of use. Trest really killed my skin as well.
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I'm only 1 week away from my first Trest run and I am both excited and hesitant. I definitely understand from reading that it is very androgenic. I'm hoping that the supposed lack of affinity for the prostate and its inabiility to be 5a-reduced will be helpful in preventing some of the androgenic sides of some other steroids. Do you think your sides were because of your high dose and did you run it at lower doses and see less androgenic sides? I'm planning on staying in the 50-100 range (TD/Oral) depending on how things are going.

By skin, do you mean acne? How was it on your hair?
 
Toren said:
I'm only 1 week away from my first Trest run and I am both excited and hesitant. I definitely understand from reading that it is very androgenic. I'm hoping that the supposed lack of affinity for the prostate and its inabiility to be 5a-reduced will be helpful in preventing some of the androgenic sides of some other steroids. Do you think your sides were because of your high dose and did you run it at lower doses and see less androgenic sides? I'm planning on staying in the 50-100 range (TD/Oral) depending on how things are going.

By skin, do you mean acne? How was it on your hair?
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I've ran trest my last 4 cycles and here's what I've learned:
1) there really aren't any benifits over 100mg, only increases sides.
2) 75mg and over plan on using an ai, 100mg and over plan on using an ai and nolva for full nip protection. 100mg without nolva didn't give me gyno but made my nips hurt like crazy.
3) 50mg of trest and a good dose of epiandro is the ultimate cycle base
4) trest gives me pretty bad acne but does not mess with my hair line at all.
5) stacking with tren is a horrible idea, estrogen and prolactin go crazy! Pick one or another imo.
6) strength gains and alpha feeling are phenomenal at 100mg.
7) oral trest should be used in conjunction with td trest, oral trest half life is too short to really be effective.

That's all I got for now! Toren just be fully prepared with ancillaries and trest will treat you great!
 
yates84 said:
I've ran trest my last 4 cycles and here's what I've learned:
1) there really aren't any benifits over 100mg, only increases sides.
2) 75mg and over plan on using an ai, 100mg and over plan on using an ai and nolva for full nip protection. 100mg without nolva didn't give me gyno but made my nips hurt like crazy.
3) 50mg of trest and a good dose of epiandro is the ultimate cycle base
4) trest gives me pretty bad acne but does not mess with my hair line at all.
5) stacking with tren is a horrible idea, estrogen and prolactin go crazy! Pick one or another imo.
6) strength gains and alpha feeling are phenomenal at 100mg.
7) oral trest should be used in conjunction with td trest, oral trest half life is too short to really be effective.

That's all I got for now! Toren just be fully prepared with ancillaries and trest will treat you great!
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Best write of Trest I've seen! Condensed version from experience. Man I wish I had more Trest stocked up.
 
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