dimethylnandrolone

yates84 said:
I've ran trest my last 4 cycles and here's what I've learned:
1) there really aren't any benifits over 100mg, only increases sides.
2) 75mg and over plan on using an ai, 100mg and over plan on using an ai and nolva for full nip protection. 100mg without nolva didn't give me gyno but made my nips hurt like crazy.
3) 50mg of trest and a good dose of epiandro is the ultimate cycle base
4) trest gives me pretty bad acne but does not mess with my hair line at all.
5) stacking with tren is a horrible idea, estrogen and prolactin go crazy! Pick one or another imo.
6) strength gains and alpha feeling are phenomenal at 100mg.
7) oral trest should be used in conjunction with td trest, oral trest half life is too short to really be effective.

That's all I got for now! Toren just be fully prepared with ancillaries and trest will treat you great!
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Glad to know it didn't affect your hairline. I'm prepared either way though. If you cycle, and are predisposed to MPB, you must accept the consequences.

I'm definitely covered with the ancillaries as always. I will be using 10mg Nolva EOD on cycle from the start, along with 12.5mg Exemestane E3D. For the first time in my life I have a small amount of sensitivity behind the left nipple (currently running LGD @ 12mg ED) and I am treating it mildly and monitoring it. I reckon I will be taking an extra month of off time after this cycle to give my body a break from these 12 weekers. I will also shorten the next cycle to 6 weeks only.
 
Gutterpump said:
You guys are only talking about oral/TD dosages here right?

I generally use 50-75mg daily for IM ace.
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Sorry, should have been more specific. Only referring to oral and td trest.
 
yates84 said:
Sorry, should have been more specific. Only referring to oral and td trest.
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Ok cool. I've never used oral and TD and was a bit confused because those are my IM ranges. I must be dosing on the higher end then.

FWIW - I also experienced no significant hair loss on trest just minor shedding. I didn't even use nizoral. Same with dienolone (even IM), absolutely no hair loss whatsoever on it.
 
Gutterpump said:
Ok cool. I've never used oral and TD and was a bit confused because those are my IM ranges. I must be dosing on the higher end then.

FWIW - I also experienced no significant hair loss on trest just minor shedding. I didn't even use nizoral. Same with dienolone (even IM), absolutely no hair loss whatsoever on it.
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How are the gains and sides with the IM?
 
Burnfire said:
How are the gains and sides with the IM?
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Strongest compound I've tried, gains, libido were all more than anything else had provided. Had nipple itch on 3rd day. Was using 12.5mg exemestane eod, did a quick dose of 25mg then switched to 12.5mg daily.

Next time nolva and prami will be used.

Also, I should mention that (at least on the IM version), aggression can be something to watch for.
 
yates84 said:
I've ran trest my last 4 cycles and here's what I've learned:
1) there really aren't any benifits over 100mg, only increases sides.
2) 75mg and over plan on using an ai, 100mg and over plan on using an ai and nolva for full nip protection. 100mg without nolva didn't give me gyno but made my nips hurt like crazy.
3) 50mg of trest and a good dose of epiandro is the ultimate cycle base
4) trest gives me pretty bad acne but does not mess with my hair line at all.
5) stacking with tren is a horrible idea, estrogen and prolactin go crazy! Pick one or another imo.
6) strength gains and alpha feeling are phenomenal at 100mg.
7) oral trest should be used in conjunction with td trest, oral trest half life is too short to really be effective.

That's all I got for now! Toren just be fully prepared with ancillaries and trest will treat you great!
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I can't even imagine stacking trest and tren, jeez.
 
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