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Msten PCT SERM

JS424

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I have been reading so much conflicting information regarding PCT for Msten. First of all, I purchased Msten totally legally and have not yet cycled it. I want to cycle it soon, but I am pretty nervous about the PCT aspect of it. I'm new to the PH scene, so I don't have much experience. I'm 24, I've been working out naturally like crazy for about 8 months now. I've seen some pretty crazy results. I was at 236 pounds when I began working out. I got my diet in check and my training solid, and I lost 43 pounds. I'm not pretty lean, and I've been making solid muscle gains. I am hoping the Msten will give me good dry gains.

Now in terms of PCT. all the supplement companies online recommend using Vital Labs 3x PCT with DAA and Eradicate AI by Blackstone Labs. But it seems pretty apparent this isn't going to be enough after reading around on this site.

I don't have access to a SERM. It seems like you can buy them online but are those scams? Are those purchases monitored? Etc. so I found out about Rebirth natural SERM. if I added this to my PCT stack would it suffice? Does anyone know where to safely purchase serms?

Next, for on cycle support I am thinking TUDCA and Rich Piana's 5% Nutrition Liver and Organ Defender. The dosing is incredible compared to other on cycle support I've seen.

But should I also add a test base such as 4-andro? I am confused on this as well. Wouldn't adding a test base during the cycle actually shut my natural test down more than running Msten alone?

Thanks in advance guys.
 
You can find a SERM pretty easily online. Just do some searching and you will come across a good place. I would add a Test base if I were you.

For cycle support I would use CEL Cycle Assist or Olympus Labs Arimacare Pro. You can add in TUDCA if you want.
 
JS424 said:
I have been reading so much conflicting information regarding PCT for Msten. First of all, I purchased Msten totally legally and have not yet cycled it. I want to cycle it soon, but I am pretty nervous about the PCT aspect of it. I'm new to the PH scene, so I don't have much experience. I'm 24, I've been working out naturally like crazy for about 8 months now. I've seen some pretty crazy results. I was at 236 pounds when I began working out. I got my diet in check and my training solid, and I lost 43 pounds. I'm not pretty lean, and I've been making solid muscle gains. I am hoping the Msten will give me good dry gains.

Now in terms of PCT. all the supplement companies online recommend using Vital Labs 3x PCT with DAA and Eradicate AI by Blackstone Labs. But it seems pretty apparent this isn't going to be enough after reading around on this site.

I don't have access to a SERM. It seems like you can buy them online but are those scams? Are those purchases monitored? Etc. so I found out about Rebirth natural SERM. if I added this to my PCT stack would it suffice? Does anyone know where to safely purchase serms?

Next, for on cycle support I am thinking TUDCA and Rich Piana's 5% Nutrition Liver and Organ Defender. The dosing is incredible compared to other on cycle support I've seen.

But should I also add a test base such as 4-andro? I am confused on this as well. Wouldn't adding a test base during the cycle actually shut my natural test down more than running Msten alone?

Thanks in advance guys.
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Get a real SERM no an OTC remember NO SERM NO CYCLE...for cycle support our Ar1micare pro is the best option you can buy it has got tudca ALready in it at 200mg, but i suggest you to take extra tudca just in case m-sten is harsh on the body.Remember to TRAIN HARD AND EAT RIGHT, m-sten will work but you have to do things right to archieve this goal.Test base is not a must, but i highly reccomend you 4-andro dermacrine or our TR3ST(you need an ai along with this) to keep lethargy at bay.
 
Serms are easily found. You have one of the best RC companies around on this site as a sponsor. There are only a couple of them I really trust and one happens to be here so look around man!!
 
Yea theyre not too difficult to find. Get some nolva or clomid, an otc pct product, and then some viron and you would be g2g.
 
So you guys have used the sponsor here? CEM Products for SERM? It just seems kinda shady buying something like that online. You all have purchased from them with no issues?

Would I still use an OTC Pct like 3X Alongside the SERM?

Thanks
 
Ive used them for several years. I dont bother with a supplement when I am taking a serm. Nothing stimulates LH & FSH production better than clomid and nolvadex.
 
Why has no one mentioned the fact that he has only been working out for 8 months and now wants to use one of the strongerst orals avaialbe.

First, don't use a PH yet. You still don't really know your body and how to train/diet if you only have been doing it for 8 months.
Second, don't use msten as your first cycle. It's very strong and harsh.
Thirdly, when you do run it, GET A SERM!!
 
I personally wouldn't waste my own time with the weaker pro hormones available now, but that's just me. I skipped over the fact you have only lifted for 8 months.

I would take a look at Ghar1ne, Cardar1ne, Ep1c Unleashed, and X Gels. They are all non hormonal and are excellent options. It's still even early to be considering some of those, but if you are set on doing something, then I would use one of those.
 
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