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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

jbryand101b said:
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Phw gave me shipping confirmation in 15 minutes of me placing my order! If delivery is just as quick then I might have a new favorite OL spot
 
Sorry bro, but your info is flawed. You cant refute facts. Go pick up a medical book it takes a google search. Even ISSA AND ACE certified trainers are smart enough and taught in their course that IV is the best form of admin. Drug addicts keyster drugs , tweakers, and people smuggling. Whatever floats your boat . It is common knowledge that rectal administration is possible and has high bioavailability, but in 10 years on juice board and bb boards you are the first I've seen or heard to want to do something like this. Maybe you will feel some pleasure in the process. I don't see any other reasoning. there are other boards for that type of stuff guy. I would say judging by your pics you are better off on low calorie diet and a treadmill before you try PED's or SARMS. You have a lot of work to put in first, earn the right or post some pics and credentials, or a portfolio of your clients - to back up your bogus claims - and your NOVEL discovery of rectal drug admin lol.
 
muay thai said:
Sorry bro, but your info is flawed. You cant refute facts. Go pick up a medical book it takes a google search. Even ISSA AND ACE certified trainers are smart enough and taught in their course that IV is the best form of admin. Drug addicts keyster drugs , tweakers, and people smuggling. Whatever floats your boat . It is common knowledge that rectal administration is possible and has high bioavailability, but in 10 years on juice board and bb boards you are the first I've seen or heard to want to do something like this. Maybe you will feel some pleasure in the process. I don't see any other reasoning. there are other boards for that type of stuff guy. I would say judging by your pics you are better off on low calorie diet and a treadmill before you try PED's or SARMS. You have a lot of work to put in first, earn the right or post some pics and credentials, or a portfolio of your clients - to back up your bogus claims - and your NOVEL discovery of rectal drug admin lol.
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I got it. IV is the most effective way, but chopping off the arm and injecting it directly in the stump would be better, don't you think?
 
C'mon guys, I leave this thread for one day and I come back to "SARM anal suppositories," smh, smh.....haha
 
I was thinking about putting my albuterol in a eye dropper then drop it in my eyes. I read doing that would give me super vision.
 
I think it goes without saying that there are many ways to administer various substances and compounds, but Olympus Labs and Olympus UK products are to be used as recommended on their bottles. Please follow the recommended guidelines for administration and dosing for each individual product.
 
Hastur said:
I think it goes without saying that there are many ways to administer various substances and compounds, but Olympus Labs and Olympus UK products are to be used as recommended on their bottles. Please follow the recommended guidelines for administration and dosing for each individual product.
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Ahmen brett
 
For those that have ran LGD for 12 weeks vs 6-8, how would you compare the recovery time in terms of PCT? Is there a big difference?
 
kboxer7 said:
For those that have ran LGD for 12 weeks vs 6-8, how would you compare the recovery time in terms of PCT? Is there a big difference?
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I've only run8 but Id think it's honestly the sand I doubt the extra 4 weeks would make a big impact . It could also depend on dosage increase . But lack of effect on LH and FSH would make me think recovery is still going to be very quick
 
bighulksmash said:
If gw was mixed with mk 2866 , rad and carn ... wat would my results be? Clogged receptors?
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GW is a PPAR modulator and AMPK activator, Ostarine and RAD are both SARMs, and I'm not sure if you mean Carnitine or Carnosine by that abbreviation 'Carn' but neither have any documented synergy or interaction with any of the 3 compounds you mention prior. It's hard to say what results you would have, obviously a lot of variables and other factors come into play, diet, exercise, training experience, etc. But 'clogged receptors' is not a scientifically valid concept, and if you mean specifically androgen receptors, which I assume you do, it would take an incredible amount of Ostarine and RAD to 'saturate' your AR receptors.
 
Hastur said:
GW is a PPAR modulator and AMPK activator, Ostarine and RAD are both SARMs, and I'm not sure if you mean Carnitine or Carnosine by that abbreviation 'Carn' but neither have any documented synergy or interaction with any of the 3 compounds you mention prior. It's hard to say what results you would have, obviously a lot of variables and other factors come into play, diet, exercise, training experience, etc. But 'clogged receptors' is not a scientifically valid concept, and if you mean specifically androgen receptors, which I assume you do, it would take an incredible amount of Ostarine and RAD to 'saturate' your AR receptors.
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Beautiful answer !!! So none of these would compete. Thats amazing! !! . I had some one ask me of they could run those 4 items and i was sure osta and rad are good 2 go but the other 2 iam bot familiar with at all . Thanks
 
Thank you, sir. I do my best to try and help! None of those compounds would compete with each other, because the reason for that line of thinking is flawed. All AAS/DS/PH/SARMs function by agonizing the androgen receptor, meaning all anabolic compounds would 'compete' for the same receptor. However, there are plenty of receptors available for them to bind to. I believe one study showed it took a dosage of 3g Test to saturate androgen receptors, which would be the only time competing for a receptor would mean wasted product. So, you can run all 4 of those items! You're welcome!
 
Hastur said:
Thank you, sir. I do my best to try and help! None of those compounds would compete with each other, because the reason for that line of thinking is flawed. All AAS/DS/PH/SARMs function by agonizing the androgen receptor, meaning all anabolic compounds would 'compete' for the same receptor. However, there are plenty of receptors available for them to bind to. I believe one study showed it took a dosage of 3g Test to saturate androgen receptors, which would be the only time competing for a receptor would mean wasted product. So, you can run all 4 of those items! You're welcome!
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Ive done 1 gram of test but 3 no effin way ha i hope its not prop
 
bighulksmash said:
Ive done 1 gram of test but 3 no effin way ha i hope its not prop
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Haha, yeah man, 3g of Test is a LOT. I don't think pros even mess with that much, do they? I can't say I've heard reports of Test usage that high. So as you can see, it would take a LOT of Ostarine and RAD to equal 3g Test.
 
Hastur said:
Haha, yeah man, 3g of Test is a LOT. I don't think pros even mess with that much, do they? I can't say I've heard reports of Test usage that high. So as you can see, it would take a LOT of Ostarine and RAD to equal 3g Test.
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I wanted to run tri dermal along side m1d and epi andro but iam not sure if they would compare to the harsh things ive subjected myself to.
 
bighulksmash said:
I wanted to run tri dermal along side m1d and epi andro but iam not sure if they would compare to the harsh things ive subjected myself to.
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Well, I'm not sure what you've subjected yourself too, but if you've run 1g of Test, then no currently legal over the counter supplement will give you quite the same results.
 
Hastur said:
Well, I'm not sure what you've subjected yourself too, but if you've run 1g of Test, then no currently legal over the counter supplement will give you quite the same results.
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I meant ph/ds lol sorry ... a1m sdrol hdrol tbol msten pretty much everything mainstream. I like that upped t feeling more than anything
 
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

Data posted in preparation for the members who are wondering?


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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

I have blood work showing LJ100 at 2 caps 5 on /2 off lowered my Shbg 8 points after 6 weeks. And then 10 after another 3. (From well before I was appointed an OL rep)
 
jbryand101b said:
People should be concerned more about things that bind to test making it inactive like shbg. Get on that lj100
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100% agreed.

For most, tackling "free test" will yield MUCH better results than just taking a concoction of herbals to increase total T.

My fav for this is LJ100 + something with 3,4 divanil
 
kboxer7 said:
100% agreed.

For most, tackling "free test" will yield MUCH better results than just taking a concoction of herbals to increase total T.

My fav for this is LJ100 + something with 3,4 divanil
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Definitely a great combo. Not many quality divanil products floating around these days tho! The last really good one I recall using was athletix division 1, that was about 2012 tho
 
chedapalooza said:
Definitely a great combo. Not many quality divanil products floating around these days tho! The last really good one I recall using was athletix division 1, that was about 2012 tho
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True.

I've used ActivateXtreme and Testabolan V2 for 3,4 (though they have other goodies in them as well).
 
May have been answered anyone have results with YK11 stacked with MK677 and ostarine? Xcel Makes it and was thinking about running 3 pills of each
Yk-9mg, MK677-21mg, MK 2866 21mg. Then second bottle running 4 pills- 12,28, 28 thoughts?
 
jaredmus said:
May have been answered anyone have results with YK11 stacked with MK677 and ostarine? Xcel Makes it and was thinking about running 3 pills of each
Yk-9mg, MK677-21mg, MK 2866 21mg. Then second bottle running 4 pills- 12,28, 28 thoughts?
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Sounds Great. I asked a similar question earlier. Nice keepable gains minimal sides . :)
 
Its important for people to remember if you are taking anything that significantly lowers SHBG that doing so will also free up significant amounts of estrogen as well as testosterone. You may have to adjust other ancillaries as needed. For the majority of products this is a non issue as most reductions that are touted as significant really are not, but if one is truly clinically effective at reducing this hormone its important to remember it doesn't just effect testosterone.
In the case of DHT based compounds that lower SHBG significantly this may be less of an issue due to their inherent anti estrogen effects/properties (even if they are as minimal as improving androgen/estrogen ratio). This cannot be said for most supplements.
 
jaredmus said:
May have been answered anyone have results with YK11 stacked with MK677 and ostarine? Xcel Makes it and was thinking about running 3 pills of each
Yk-9mg, MK677-21mg, MK 2866 21mg. Then second bottle running 4 pills- 12,28, 28 thoughts?
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I've been looking for fdbk on that brand yk11 but can't find anything .
 
yates84

what do you know about this study...? I've never seen this one before in regards to GW

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vujade said:
yates84

what do you know about this study...? I've never seen this one before in regards to GW

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Nice find.

I need to dig thru that study a bit more...but to be on the safe side, based on my initial observations, I'd say that taking GW with anything that would cause liver damage (including alcohol) would be a bad idea as it would increase fibrosis of the liver during repair.

Here is some additional reading for those interested:

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Now, my question is....who is selling KD3010? : )

EDIT: a quick reference on KD3010 here:
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vujade said:
yates84

what do you know about this study...? I've never seen this one before in regards to GW
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I have seen this before, and it didn't seem worth mentioning in any previous discussions. If you are exposing your liver to chronic damaging stimuli, then you are better off not using GW. Along with a long list of other things for that matter. If you drink heavily or use a significant amount of acetaminophen, please do not use GW. Common sense should dictate this without needing a study done in mice where they purposefully induce liver damage.

kboxer7 said:
Nice find.

I need to dig thru that study a bit more...but to be on the safe side, based on my initial observations, I'd say that taking GW with anything that would cause liver damage (including alcohol) would be a bad idea as it would increase fibrosis of the liver during repair.

Here is some additional reading for those interested:

pnas.org/content/109/21/E1369/1.full.pdf

nature.com/scibx/journal/v5/n19/full/scibx.2012.485.html


Now, my question is....who is selling KD3010? : )

EDIT: a quick reference on KD3010 here:
professional.diabetes.org/content/posters/2008/p569-p.pdf
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Awesome post, I just want to say that I haven't seen any mention of KD3010 surprisingly, because on paper it does look quite promising. Not sure where the buzz is on this one.

jaredmus said:
May have been answered anyone have results with YK11 stacked with MK677 and ostarine? Xcel Makes it and was thinking about running 3 pills of each
Yk-9mg, MK677-21mg, MK 2866 21mg. Then second bottle running 4 pills- 12,28, 28 thoughts?
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muay thai said:
I've been looking for fdbk on that brand yk11 but can't find anything .
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I've had a few people reach out to me about purchasing YK11 products since I've been active in a few threads concerning the compound. There seemed to be a theme, the products they've used didn't elicit the effects they had hoped for, so I guess buyer beware when it comes to YK11 products for the time being. I don't know of a single source that has 3rd party testing to prove it is what it's claimed to be.

hamdysayed said:
Hastur any updates from ur buddies using rad?
That pic was too impressive to forget please share if there is any?
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He is still running the cycle, but he has caught a illness of some kind thats prevented him from lifting as intensely as he'd like. I appear to have caught the same thing, it sucks! But he was able to set a new Deadlifting PR just before getting sick, 405lbs for the first time. He was thrilled. He sent a pic of his progress:

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On the left is day one, and the right might be week 3. Mind you he isn't dieting at all, he eats whatever he wants. And his weight has stayed the same. It looks like he's seen better nutrient partitioning and strength gains.
 
Hastur said:
I have seen this before, and it didn't seem worth mentioning in any previous discussions. If you are exposing your liver to chronic damaging stimuli, then you are better off not using GW. Along with a long list of other things for that matter. If you drink heavily or use a significant amount of acetaminophen, please do not use GW. Common sense should dictate this without needing a study done in mice where they purposefully induce liver damage.



Awesome post, I just want to say that I haven't seen any mention of KD3010 surprisingly, because on paper it does look quite promising. Not sure where the buzz is on this one.





I've had a few people reach out to me about purchasing YK11 products since I've been active in a few threads concerning the compound. There seemed to be a theme, the products they've used didn't elicit the effects they had hoped for, so I guess buyer beware when it comes to YK11 products for the time being. I don't know of a single source that has 3rd party testing to prove it is what it's claimed to be.



He is still running the cycle, but he has caught a illness of some kind thats prevented him from lifting as intensely as he'd like. I appear to have caught the same thing, it sucks! But he was able to set a new Deadlifting PR just before getting sick, 405lbs for the first time. He was thrilled. He sent a pic of his progress:

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On the left is day one, and the right might be week 3. Mind you he isn't dieting at all, he eats whatever he wants. And his weight has stayed the same. It looks like he's seen better nutrient partitioning and strength gains.
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****ing wow lol huge ass difference, he is looking good!
 
CJNator said:
****ing wow lol huge ass difference, he is looking good!
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Yeah, in person its even more noticeable. I know photos aren't perfect, and he isn't the kind of guy to obsess or nitpick poses or lighting like us on the boards, but he has made progress. I was pumped for him to lift 405.
 
Hastur said:
Yeah, in person its even more noticeable. I know photos aren't perfect, and he isn't the kind of guy to obsess or nitpick poses or lighting like us on the boards, but he has made progress. I was pumped for him to lift 405.
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That awesome man, tell your friend to join up on AM!
 
Hastur said:
Yeah, in person its even more noticeable. I know photos aren't perfect, and he isn't the kind of guy to obsess or nitpick poses or lighting like us on the boards, but he has made progress. I was pumped for him to lift 405.
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Oh my that size reduction in waist....
love handles is my enemy :(...
Please don't forget and keep us posted and hopefully yall get better.
 
CJNator said:
That awesome man, tell your friend to join up on AM!
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I wish he would, but he isn't a very computer savvy person, he doesn't do messages boards or forums.

hamdysayed said:
Oh my that size reduction in waist....
love handles is my enemy :(...
Please don't forget and keep us posted and hopefully yall get better.
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Yeah, he has seen more noticeable waist reduction than I did on Rad, but he has better genes than me. I struggle with love handles... But I shall keep you posted! And thank you for the kind wishes! Everyone we know is sick!
 
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