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Iron Mag Labs SDMZ 4.0 Log

Misfit28

Misfit28

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What's up, guys!

I just finished up a C & P LGD-4033 log,and am bridging straight into this log.

I gained ~7lbs. from just 4 weeks on LGD-4033 at 10mg for most of the log, and now will be trying to get a bit more recomp as I end my cycle with this product. I will have bloods soon from after the LGD, and will probably get bloods again after PCT.

Current stats:

247# probably around 20% BF.

Estimated 1RM:

OHP: 160-165
Bench: 228
Deadlift: 412
Squat: ??

I haven't been squatting lately due to a case of Achilles tendinosis caused by a massive heel spur. I'm going to PT right now to correct this, and it is feeling better already. I've been using leg curls/extensions for leg mass until I am capable of Squatting again.

I gained quite a bit of strength from the LGD, hoping this will continue that trend.

Staple supps:

SNS Creatine 5g per day
SNS Betaine 2.5g per day
CEL Epi-Plex 2 caps per day
SNS Agmatine and Cit Mal added to preworkouts (either Focus XT or Neogenix NeuroSurge 3.0)

I also have a couple of AIs on hand just in case. PCT will be Torem and OL's new Supe3r PCT.

I also have the new Ar1micare Pro on hand as well, but might save that for a more harsh cycle.

Diet:

I haven't been tracking calories lately, but planning to get back in that groove soon. I plan to cut a bit after my PCT, so need to get back in the habit soon.

I aim to get ~200g of Protein per day.

Program:

I tried DUP for a bit, but switched back to my old standby of 5/3/1 BBB. I do the "less boring" setup where I do BBB OHP with bench, and vice versa. I don't feel like high rep Deads or Squats are very useful for me, so I generally do high rep machines for legs on those days, especially given my current Achilles issue. Lifting is 4 days per week: MTWF.

Dosing:

Not sure how I will dose this. The bottle recommends 1-2 caps 3 times per day. At that dosage, the bottle would last 20 days at the minimum dosage. The only DHEA product I have run before is Dermacrine.

Here is the label that heavyiron posted with the non-prop blend:

SUPER-DMZ Rx 4.0
60 Capsules
Serving size: 1 capsule

3b-hydroxy-androst-4-en-17-one (4-Andro) - 100mg
3-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-17-one (1-Andro) - 50mg
3b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one (Epi-Andro) - 50mg
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one (5-Andro) - 25mg
6,7 Dihydroxybergattomin - 25mg
(2S)-3-(4-cyanophenoxy)-N-[4-cyano-3-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-2-hydroxy-2-me
thylpropanamide - 3mg
5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin - 5mg
Piperine - 5mg
 
OK, guys. Here is my final review of IML's Super DMZ 4.0:

Weight:

Starting weight: 247
Ending weight: 250

Lifts:

Estimated 1RM:

Starting lifts:

OHP: 160-165
Bench: 228
Deadlift: 412
Squat: ???

Ending lifts:

OHP: 171
Bench: 247
Deadlift: 402
Squat: ???


I honestly didn't keep track of my diet while on this. When I cut, I will be for sure. I mostly just tried to make sure I got enough protein at a minimum, and probably ate over maintenance most days.

Overall, this is a good prohormone for someone who is willing to run it for at least two consecutive bottles at 3 caps per day. That would give you roughly 40 days (5.71) weeks. The kick in really started around 2.5 weeks in.

When it did kick in, I felt increased libido, strength, vascularity and aggression (mostly in the weight room). I had a good alpha feeling, and had good energy most days after it kicked in.

Having run Ostar1ne twice at higher doses before, this seemed different to me. I started for a couple of days at two caps per day, which would be 6mg of Ostarine, and ran the rest of the bottle at three caps per day, which was 9mg of Ostarine. My only previous experience with any type of DHEA based product was Dermacrine. I think the Andros helped quite a bit with the libido and lethargy issues that I tend to get with Ostarine, so that is a positive.

I did notice a bit of a drop in strength yesterday during my workout, even though I have decided to finish off my run with a higher dose of Ostarine in Andro Quad. The drop off may have been due to the lowering (and dropping dosage of two) of the Andros.

Per my bloodwork from starting this log, I was already really suppressed. I think the Andros in this helped me through that feeling of lethargy. I probably will not be getting additional bloodwork until after PCT. I'm sure this may have suppressed me as well, but probably not as much as the LGD that I ran before this log.

Also, with that in mind, this product may have been more effective if I had not run LGD beforehand. It may have treated me better if I had run it completely fresh.

Honestly, I'm not sure I would pay for two bottles of this. It is very pricey, coming in at around 70 dollars per bottle. That means for a good run, you would need to drop around 140 bucks. That's not including PCT and ancillaries. I've been having some good success with SARMs lately, and will most likely stick with that route. I may use Andros for a test base in the future, but not as a solo run.

In closing, I think that this would be an excellent PH for a complete beginner, and I think the gains would be great for them. I want to thank heavyiron and IML for allowing me the opportunity to log this for them. I'm sorry the results weren't better for me, but I had to be completely honest.
 
Day 1:

Took 1 cap before my DL workout. It was a 1+ workout for me, and I nailed 6 reps @ 345.

Nothing to note yet, not sure how long LGD stays in the system, so this was a nice PR according to my tracking, with my estimated 1RM being right at 414.

I did feel nice and aggressive, and got a good little adrenaline rush after the top set.

This damn Achilles injury is really annoying me. I have got to get it straightened out, and also have to remember to bring my headphones so i don't have to listen to crappy EDM while I'm lifting :mad:.

Weight was still around 247# this morning. I feel sloppy, so it is definitely time for a small cut after my PCT.
 
Thanks guys! Sitting at the place to get my blood drawn. Moral of story, make an appointment. Even though I wasn't able to even get an appointment two days ago! Hate this damn place!
 
4.0 is basically a dhea complex. Going from LGD to that... You might be disappointed
 
I finally got the bloodwork done yesterday morning. Man, I was pissed for having to wait for almost two hours

I was fasted, but the point was that I needed to get the blood drawn as early as possible, due to T levels being higher. Mine was WAY LOW, btw.

Apparently Inhibit-E DESTROYS estrogen as well. Here are my results:

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The print is kinda small, but AST and ALT are both high, as well as Creatinine.

Total test is REALLY low at 186, and Estradiol is really LOW at <5.1. LH was at 2.2, and FSH was at 3.3.

My last Total Testosterone tested out at 592, so this is crazy low. My last Estradiol reading was 29.....

I don't think I have a previous LH or FSH lab reading, so nothing to compare there.
 
I did three caps yesterday, and will be dosing three from here on out.

Man, I have been pissy lately. Just impatient, and angry LOL.

Hit Bench this morning, and got a grindy PR at 190 X 7. I think it was a grinder because I got a cramp in my right ham and glute after I unracked the bar.

New estimated 1RM is 234.

After I hit some chest supported rows, pullups and machine shoulder press. Very vascular today, feeling a bit better. Pretty sure I'm not feeling any effects yet.
 
Nice, opted to dose the the 20 day duration? I've been on the fence myself because I can't imagine much happening with just 20 days. I'll be following and may increase to 3 caps as well.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Nice, opted to dose the the 20 day duration? I've been on the fence myself because I can't imagine much happening with just 20 days. I'll be following and may increase to 3 caps as well.
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Yeah, I figure with my test being so freaking low I need it!
 
Sorry for the lack of updates lately, it was a super busy weekend, getting my son signed up for hockey and getting his equipment. Then he wanted to skate and have stick time, so we spent a lot of time at the ice rink. Much better than being out in the heat!

Weighed in at about 249 this morning. Might be water from stopping Inhibit E. I just figured <5 is too low on Estradiol, LOL.

Just about one week on now. Even though my test showed to be really suppressed, I felt pretty strong today. Today was an OHP 5+ day on the third consecutive cycle without a deload for 5/3/1 BBB. I got 9 reps on 130, which is ANOTHER new PR for me (New estimated 1RM of 169). I'm rolling with PRs lately, feels good. Not sure what to attribute this to, not sure if the SDMZ 4.0 has really had time to kick in, or if LGD can hang out in your system that long.

I also did high rep Hammer Strength chest press (5 X 10) as all the benches were occupied by college bros who were doing glute bridg....I mean bench press ;) Also did some curls and chest supported machine rows.

Vascularity has been crazy lately, becoming more apparent on my upper forearms.

I've been kinda pissy lately, and I hate that. At this point, I'm actually looking forward to PCT, LOL. Either that, or I hope this kicks in soon.
 
Day 10

I think it's starting to kick in pretty good now. I am feeling better than before, confidence is up and feeling a bit alpha lately. Also, weight is back to around 244 or so.

Vascularity seems to be always on, and starting to get the little bit of boost in mood and energy that Osta gives, even though I'm used to higher doses.

Yesterday I hit Deadlifts, and was a bit rushed. No PRs, but wasn't feeling it yesterday. Hit 7 reps on my 5+ set of 315.

Today I had Bench and set another new PR. Hit 11 reps on my 5+ set, which gives me a new estimated 1RM of 239. This is the highest number of reps ever on this weight, I am positive. Felt great. The spotter I had said he thinks I almost had the 12th rep, but not counting it.

Hoping it gets better around the 14 day mark :)
 
Misfit28 said:
Day 10

I think it's starting to kick in pretty good now. I am feeling better than before, confidence is up and feeling a bit alpha lately. Also, weight is back to around 244 or so.

Vascularity seems to be always on, and starting to get the little bit of boost in mood and energy that Osta gives, even though I'm used to higher doses.

Yesterday I hit Deadlifts, and was a bit rushed. No PRs, but wasn't feeling it yesterday. Hit 7 reps on my 5+ set of 315.

Today I had Bench and set another new PR. Hit 11 reps on my 5+ set, which gives me a new estimated 1RM of 239. This is the highest number of reps ever on this weight, I am positive. Felt great. The spotter I had said he thinks I almost had the 12th rep, but not counting it.

Hoping it gets better around the 14 day mark :)
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Get it bro!!!
 
Took the day off from the gym today, as PT had me do quite a bit of leg work yesterday. I'm noticing more energy lately, and a bit of an increase in mood. Libido is almost completely absent right now, probably due to my suppressed test and estrogen levels. I'm hoping to get some libido back soon, but it might just have to wait until PCT.
 
Misfit28 said:
Took the day off from the gym today, as PT had me do quite a bit of leg work yesterday. I'm noticing more energy lately, and a bit of an increase in mood. Libido is almost completely absent right now, probably due to my suppressed test and estrogen levels. I'm hoping to get some libido back soon, but it might just have to wait until PCT.
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It's pretty bad when you look at porn and yo dick ain't hard...you know you're in a tough place then lol
 
Dma378 said:
Misfit, did I read right or miss something? Are you running Osta with this?
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Originally Posted by Misfit28
So, looks like it contains Ostarine? Can you disclose the amount?
SUPER-DMZ Rx 4.0
60 Capsules
Serving size: 1 capsule

3b-hydroxy-androst-4-en-17-one (4-Andro) - 100mg
3-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-17-one (1-Andro) - 50mg
3b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one (Epi-Andro) - 50mg
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one (5-Andro) - 25mg
6,7 Dihydroxybergattomin - 25mg
(2S)-3-(4-cyanophenoxy)-N-[4-cyano-3-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-2-hydroxy-2-me
thylpropanamide - 3mg
5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin - 5mg
Piperine - 5mg

there's osta in it I believe that's what he's referring to brother
 
bobsaget2191 said:
Originally Posted by Misfit28
So, looks like it contains Ostarine? Can you disclose the amount?
SUPER-DMZ Rx 4.0
60 Capsules
Serving size: 1 capsule

3b-hydroxy-androst-4-en-17-one (4-Andro) - 100mg
3-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-17-one (1-Andro) - 50mg
3b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one (Epi-Andro) - 50mg
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one (5-Andro) - 25mg
6,7 Dihydroxybergattomin - 25mg
(2S)-3-(4-cyanophenoxy)-N-[4-cyano-3-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-2-hydroxy-2-me
thylpropanamide - 3mg
5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin - 5mg
Piperine - 5mg

there's osta in it I believe that's what he's referring to brother
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Got it. Thank you. And interesting.
 
Honestly, so far I think the Ostarine is doing the most so far. Not complaining, just being honest. 9mg of Osta per day so far.
 
Day 14

Still nailing PRs on shoulders and chest. I hit 135 for 8 reps on my 3+ week, which is an all-time PR for that weight. New estimated 1RM is 171. I hit machine chest press, as all the benches were occupied. Hit 5 X 10 at around 120 or so.

Still feeling a bit run down and lethargic, with almost no libido. Maybe this takes a while longer to truly kick in?

It kinda makes sense, though, as Osta takes about two weeks to kick in and the strength is there. I was hoping the Andros would kick in by now to help with lethargy. I've been sleeping well lately, and getting plenty of hours of sleep, just still feel tired all day.

Today's workout music:

[video=youtube;GaxJFkACueI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaxJFkACueI[/video]
 
Seems to be kicking in nicely now.

Another PR on Bench, hit 185 for 10 good reps. Almost got 11, but became a grinder about halfway up. Spotter touched the bar, so not counting it. New estimated 1RM 247.

Hit Deadlifts previous to that. No PR, but hit 335 for 6.

This was 3+ week for both lifts.

Main workout music was "Bind Torture Kill" by Suffocation and "Spine Splitter" by Cannibal Corpse. Those are the main two songs that got me fired up.

Reflections so far are that this needs to be run at a minimum of three caps per day, and most likely for at least two bottles. I only have a couple days left, so I'm bridging straight into Andro Quad and then PCT, I'll probably be into PCT in September.

Vascularity and mood are good right now, libido is also increasing along with morning wood. I'm sure this means my T & E are both elevated due to the Andros. I've added back Inhibit E once per day to hopefully control any extra estrogen. I'll probably also throw in the new Arim1care Pro, as I only have a few caps of Inhibit E left.
 
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