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Radarine

Yeah, the EOD part really surprised me, that's extremely suppressive for how few dosages he took. My bottle is on the way as well, and I'm thinking now about what I want to do for a test base. I imagine a 6 week cycle on RAD-140 alone would lead to lethargy fairly quickly without a test base. Plus, you'd likely see better results with a little Test/DHT/Estro in your system.
 
Hastur said:
Yeah, the EOD part really surprised me, that's extremely suppressive for how few dosages he took. My bottle is on the way as well, and I'm thinking now about what I want to do for a test base. I imagine a 6 week cycle on RAD-140 alone would lead to lethargy fairly quickly without a test base. Plus, you'd likely see better results with a little Test/DHT/Estro in your system.
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Sounds perfect since I'll be running it with Test and Mast
 
Dma378 said:
Sounds perfect since I'll be running it with Test and Mast
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I think you'll have a good experience then, and I look forward to hearing your results!

Sparta12 said:
Im dht sensitive, what would be the best thing yo take with rad?
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Anything that doesn't aromatize to DHT in large quantities or is a DHT-derivitive? This is an awfully specific question about a compound we have little to no feedback on. What's the best thing to take with RAD-140? No one knows for sure. Probably Test. Like with just about any other anabolic compound. Test is best. Your options for a test base? Besides pinning Test? You could use Dermacrine/Topical DHEA, 4-AD/4-DHEA, or Trestolone. If you use Trest, be sure to use an AI like Exemestane while on it. I think most people would advise you to avoid Trest though, as it's kind of a serious compound to be playing with. And out of all the available Test Bases, since you say you're DHT sensitive, avoid products containing Stano (epiandrosterone and/or androsterone).
 
Sorry i was at work and accidentally sent before explaining. I lose a lot of hair with any increase in dht. Normally im fine and don't really lose hair
 
mixedup said:
Your running with mast too?
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I'm not sure I'll ever NOT run Mast with anything. I make take breaks, but I've even been cruising with it.

I mean, why not free up more Test, keep libido sky high, water down, E down with minimal AI usage, aggression up, and just feel good?

Yeah it's no good for the prostate, but RAD should help that on this blast.
And I'm already bald so F hair.
And I have a personal Bacne zit popper in my sicko wife, so I'm good.
 
Went ahead and blasted a good front load shot this morning since I got my tracking for my bottle of RAD.
360 Test
260 Mast

Looks like it will start Monday. Probably get the log up Sunday night.
 
As I was searching for more information on RAD-140, I came across a log that I had read in the past and only now while re-reading it does it seem extremely suspect. I won't post the forum's name, the username on that forum, or the user's source. (Just in case it violates any of this boards rules.) But he claims in his thread that it is the first ever log of RAD-140, and he is not 'Russianstar'. I would like to quote him verbatim and see if anyone can validate any of his claims:

"the main perk is the (48 hour) half life."
"Some of the clinical trials were for seeing if it worked as trt and it showed better results then any other sarms."
"Rad is proven safe in all 3 of it human clinical trials so far."

To the best of my knowledge, none of these statements are true. But he was giving this information out to inquiring users as if they were hard facts. Anyone care to chime in on this?
 
The more I read this thread, the more I think I'm gonna put off using my 2 bottles of rad for long while until I see a good sample of user experiences.

/coward
 
warpyfunch said:
The more I read this thread, the more I think I'm gonna put off using my 2 bottles of rad for long while until I see a good sample of user experiences.

/coward
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Sparta12 said:
Haha exactly my thinking. I was so excited for it too
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Well I'm not sure what turned you two off from trying it specifically, but I'm still planning on logging Radar1ne as soon as the bottle is in my hands. If anything, I'm more excited.

T-Bone said:
Nerd stuff,

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4018048/
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I've read this study before, excellent rinformation on RAD-140.

Sparta12 said:
Opened. Say 71 pages. Closed.
Cliffs plz
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Hmm, it's not 71 pages for me... Not sure what you want 'cliffs' wise, but it's the basis of a lot of the information already widely available regarding RAD-140. Considering the study is 5 years old, and it was the subject of the popular Ergo-Log article that brought RAD-140 to most peoples attention, you probably already know the 'cliffs'.
 
Hastur said:
Well I'm not sure what turned you two off from trying it specifically, but I'm still planning on logging Radar1ne as soon as the bottle is in my hands. If anything, I'm more excited.



I've read this study before, excellent rinformation on RAD-140.



Hmm, it's not 71 pages for me... Not sure what you want 'cliffs' wise, but it's the basis of a lot of the information already widely available regarding RAD-140. Considering the study is 5 years old, and it was the subject of the popular Ergo-Log article that brought RAD-140 to most peoples attention, you probably already know the 'cliffs'.
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Sorry on my phone. Just big letters and pics hahaha. Just everything i heard about rad sounds harsh, where as i thought it would be similar to ostarine in sides, but with better size gains lol
 
Sparta12 said:
Sorry on my phone. Just big letters and pics hahaha. Just everything i heard about rad sounds harsh, where as i thought it would be similar to ostarine in sides, but with better size gains lol
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I understand, man, haha. Well I don't honestly think RAD-140 sounds much harsher than LGD, and surely less than the vast majority of PH/DS/AAS out there. We have one person who has posted blood work showing that it's suppressive, but all SARMS/PH/DS/AAS are suppressive. There are non-suppressive options out there for people to reach their goals, and hopefully they consider them first and foremost. People will have an easier time making decisions once a few logs have been completed and they know what to expect.
 
Hastur said:
Well I'm not sure what turned you two off from trying it specifically, but I'm still planning on logging Radar1ne as soon as the bottle is in my hands. If anything, I'm more excited.
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My main concern here is finding out what the suppression and recovery are really like relative to ostarine and lgd.

I doubt I'm near my genetic limits, so that's a considerable factor, but both times I've run ostarine I got excellent lbm gains in the range I was hoping for, very mild suppression, and very easy recovery. I know the general consensus is that osta is more of a cutting compound, but my n=1 experience was that it packed on solid muscle. Prior to the OL UK radarine release, I somewhere got the idea (who knows where exactly) that rad would be at least comparable to osta for gains, with even less suppression. That assumption is looking like it was wrong, based on the bloodwork posted in this thread recently, though who knows if that can really be trusted until we see more of it. Also want to see more of how it affects FSH and LH using osta and lgd as context.

At this point in my life, I'm not a 'gains at any cost' guy. I loved my osta experience exactly because the recovery was so easy, and for me I fully accept the more moderate lbm gains as a fair exchange. If rad proves to be even harsher than lgd for suppression and recovery, I'll have to rethink my plans for it. Not saying I necessarily wouldn't try it anyway... it is sitting in my kitchen cabinet already... but I would need to approach it from an entirely different mindset than I had been up through now.
 
Hastur said:
As I was searching for more information on RAD-140, I came across a log that I had read in the past and only now while re-reading it does it seem extremely suspect. I won't post the forum's name, the username on that forum, or the user's source. (Just in case it violates any of this boards rules.) But he claims in his thread that it is the first ever log of RAD-140, and he is not 'Russianstar'. I would like to quote him verbatim and see if anyone can validate any of his claims:

"the main perk is the (48 hour) half life."
"Some of the clinical trials were for seeing if it worked as trt and it showed better results then any other sarms."
"Rad is proven safe in all 3 of it human clinical trials so far."

To the best of my knowledge, none of these statements are true. But he was giving this information out to inquiring users as if they were hard facts. Anyone care to chime in on this?
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I think I know the log you mean...was the product sponsored?
 
warpyfunch said:
My main concern here is finding out what the suppression and recovery are really like relative to ostarine and lgd.

I doubt I'm near my genetic limits, so that's a considerable factor, but both times I've run ostarine I got excellent lbm gains in the range I was hoping for, very mild suppression, and very easy recovery. I know the general consensus is that osta is more of a cutting compound, but my n=1 experience was that it packed on solid muscle. Prior to the OL UK radarine release, I somewhere got the idea (who knows where exactly) that rad would be at least comparable to osta for gains, with even less suppression. That assumption is looking like it was wrong, based on the bloodwork posted in this thread recently, though who knows if that can really be trusted until we see more of it. Also want to see more of how it affects FSH and LH using osta and lgd as context.

At this point in my life, I'm not a 'gains at any cost' guy. I loved my osta experience exactly because the recovery was so easy, and for me I fully accept the more moderate lbm gains as a fair exchange. If rad proves to be even harsher than lgd for suppression and recovery, I'll have to rethink my plans for it. Not saying I necessarily wouldn't try it anyway... it is sitting in my kitchen cabinet already... but I would need to approach it from an entirely different mindset than I had been up through now.
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Very well put, and I respect your reasoning. Hopefully within a few weeks or months there will be enough data available to put a lot of questions to rest and you can make an informed decision regarding RAD-140. Since you've already invested in it, I hope it proves to be less suppressive than we believe it to be at this time, or at the very least for the recoveries to be rather quick and easy. Time will tell.

NewAgeMayan said:
I think I know the log you mean...was the product sponsored?
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Yes sir, it was. And you couldn't go more than one post without being reminded of the source. In fact, the entire thread felt very much like one long sales pitch with how often the company reps kept bringing up the source and talking up the products. Granted, that is what reps are expected to do I suppose, and for a sponsored log its not unreasonable to also expect the brand to be made highly visible. But the misinformation in the thread bothered me, which is why I mentioned something here. For instance:

-I do not believe RAD-140 has a 48-hour half-life, but rather a 16-hour half-life
-I do not believe there are any clinical trials testing if RAD-140 worked for TRT, nor showing that it worked better than any other SARMS
-I do not believe that RAD-140 has been 'proven safe' in any clinical trials, because to the best of my knowledge there haven't been any human clinical trials (Of which he claims there has been 3...)
 
Hastur, if that is indeed the log I am thinking of I very much agree with your feelings about it. I had a very strong feeling of suspicion with it...

edit: lol yeah I had another look at that log, someone mentions russianstar at the end, I forgot how recent this all was
 
Sparta12 said:
have any logs begun yet?
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I know there will be a couple of logs up this weekend or monday. Keep an eye on the cycle section
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Hastur, if that is indeed the log I am thinking of I very much agree with your feelings about it. I had a very strong feeling of suspicion with it...

edit: lol yeah I had another look at that log, someone mentions russianstar at the end, I forgot how recent this all was
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Judging by the fact no one has corrected any of the things I've said regarding what was said in that log, I'll assume his statements are pretty far off the mark. I can understand trying to build hype for a product, but putting out false information and doing so with such confidence is rather inexcusable. That being said, I'm still looking forward to running Radar1ne and testing it out for myself, along with following logs like Dma78's. So we can get some trustworthy data on the matter.
 
T-Bone said:
I'm saving up some bottles to run it a high dosage when I have enough. I want to also wait to see someone else do it first though. I'm betting there will be with the "more is better" mentality around here. There really is no established dose yet so people are just guessing at this point. Who knows maybe 30-50mg will be the standard.....
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i like this idea iam in !
 
Hello friends, I speak from Spain do not understand much English and yet I've read the whole post ... using translator. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL. I also have to finish usare radarine and Ostarine and the corresponding pct ... that nerves ...
 
Still not sold on how something can be effective if a) its not introducing and effecting hormones, b) Not just a natty test booster. Unless its a new sarm of course
 
The SARM molecule fits into the androgen receptor just like a steroid, but isn't. That's the best laymen explanation I read.
 
Toff said:
Still not sold on how something can be effective if a) its not introducing and effecting hormones, b) Not just a natty test booster. Unless its a new sarm of course
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growth hormone secretagogues firstly are non-hormonal. second, someone mentioned ArA, i've been using sns x-gels and you can tell the difference immediately. makes the pump pretty painful and the DOMS is almost debilitating afterwards.

obviously we're not talking AAS level gains...
 
So what have we learnt about Rad? haha any fully complete logs with good results? Im thinking of doing a cycle soon. Considering lean bulk or recomp. have osta shred, rad 140, sten zine and triump... not sure where i want to go
 
Sparta12 said:
So what have we learnt about Rad? haha any fully complete logs with good results? Im thinking of doing a cycle soon. Considering lean bulk or recomp. have osta shred, rad 140, sten zine and triump... not sure where i want to go
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My wife just finished a rad cycle, hit a new pr every day she stepped in the gym. Definitely made me stock up on some bottles of it for future runs.
 
Sparta12 said:
So what have we learnt about Rad? haha any fully complete logs with good results? Im thinking of doing a cycle soon. Considering lean bulk or recomp. have osta shred, rad 140, sten zine and triump... not sure where i want to go
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I entertained getting some, but this stuff is so bleeding edge already, I'm sticking to the "old school and well tested" (:)) LGD and Osta. I probably should squirrel away a few bottles and if it pans out safety wise - Bob's my uncle :)
 
Sparta12 said:
what she run it at? and how long? many side effects? 21 questions haha
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I ran it for 5 full weeks with Osta. I dosed at 4mg the first 2 weeks & then bumped it up to 8mg. I didn't experience any negative side effects. The only thing I noticed was my appetite drastically dropped during week 5. 4 weeks seems to be the optimal length for RAD, as it kicks in immediately. Many users start to report lethargy after 4 weeks. Also, there have been reports of possible blood thinning on higher doses. So, I wouldn't recommend running higher than the suggested dosage. I didn't experience the lethargy though. I was ravenous on it in those first 4 weeks. The nutrient partitioning with it is crazy. I could carb load for a few days, and the scales wouldn't budge. I'd be the exact same weight....even to the tenth of a lb. As yates84 mentioned, I was hitting new PR's on almost every power day. I enjoyed RAD & I think running it with Osta & using it as a kicker in the beginning allowed me to recomp more than bulk. The Osta has also helped me maintain my strength since dropping the RAD. Now, I just hope I can maintain when this run is completely over.
 
Sparta12 said:
So what have we learnt about Rad? haha any fully complete logs with good results? Im thinking of doing a cycle soon. Considering lean bulk or recomp. have osta shred, rad 140, sten zine and triump... not sure where i want to go
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Everything I've read makes me think its not worth it in my opinion. A ton of lethargy even when running test or a test base concurrently. Very fast and hard shutdown. No thanks. If I'm gonna get shutdown I'll run Trest. Traded mine with a very cool guy...
 
Has anyone run it past 4 or 5 weeks? If it's best to only run it that length I'm trying to figure out how to make 1 bottle last between 2 different cycles.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Has anyone run it past 4 or 5 weeks? If it's best to only run it that length I'm trying to figure out how to make 1 bottle last between 2 different cycles.
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From what I've seen, results SLOW down past 4-5 weeks, hence why RAD is most often used as a starter or finisher to a stack.
 
kboxer7 said:
From what I've seen, results SLOW down past 4-5 weeks, hence why RAD is most often used as a starter or finisher to a stack.
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Hmm. I wonder if I would benefit from just doing 3 weeks as a kicker to my cycle, and that'd give enough for another 3 week kicker for another cycle down the road. Since a bottle is a 45 day supply if you run 8mg the whole time.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Hmm. I wonder if I would benefit from just doing 3 weeks as a kicker to my cycle, and that'd give enough for another 3 week kicker for another cycle down the road. Since a bottle is a 45 day supply if you run 8mg the whole time.
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This sounds like a winner^^
 
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