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Olympus Labs EP1C UNLEASHED! Next Generation Epicatechin!

I've heard several people getting irritated by the cream and I think OL said if it continues they'll have to change something
 
Nitro41 said:
Anyone else getting a wierd black staining residue? It seemes to be happening to my hands and some times the application area. I dont know if the TD is just attracting morr dirt, but I mean my fingertips and palms are BLACK and its not coming off
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I was getting that on my palms too! It would slowly dissipate over the day, but then I'd reapply. My TD bottle just ran out and now my palms aren't turning black.

Maybe the next bottle could be a roll-on type applicator? That way it would go directly to the site of application
 
ZackD89 said:
I was getting that on my palms too! It would slowly dissipate over the day, but then I'd reapply. My TD bottle just ran out and now my palms aren't turning black.

Maybe the next bottle could be a roll-on type applicator? That way it would go directly to the site of application
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I recommend applying it to the forearms and rubbing the forearms together to keep the hands out of it. I always felt like we'd be losing some everytime we touch something otherwise
 
ZackD89 said:
I was getting that on my palms too! It would slowly dissipate over the day, but then I'd reapply. My TD bottle just ran out and now my palms aren't turning black.

Maybe the next bottle could be a roll-on type applicator? That way it would go directly to the site of application
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Roll on sounds nice, but not sure how you would regulate the dose
 
What ingredient is making the black stain? Or is it that the leftover residue picking up particles of dirt?
I remember years ago reading that some people that were using silver nitrate in DMSO got black stains. Is the transdermal solution used similar to DMSO?
 
clown007 said:
What ingredient is making the black stain? Or is it that the leftover residue picking up particles of dirt?
I remember years ago reading that some people that were using silver nitrate in DMSO got black stains. Is the transdermal solution used similar to DMSO?
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Its the emu oil
 
Ah...thanks for the clarification!
 
chedapalooza said:
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120549"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120550"/> After workout lower belly fat completely gone as of week 6 on ep1c unleashed Pic 2 after post workout meal I wanted to show there is no filter on the pic and point out the upper ab separation and the v taper in the hips/obliques. I have NEVER looked like this in my entire life, even when i dieted to 6% at age 17... I'm a pure endomorph when it comes to diet protocol but also have some skinny fat ecto properties when it comes to training requirements. Needless to say at this point, ep1c unleashed is special.<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120552"/> The last pic is 3 weeks ago... No dietary or workout change... Just continued the same protocols and the changes in body comp continued
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still waiting on my epic I'm finally consistent again a the gym and loving their osta
 
clown007 said:
What is iosol?
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its a high dosed iodine supplement. doesnt exhibit the issues associated with potassium iodide which is said to stain the thyroid the way it stains clothes. iosol is derived from kelp; you can basically feel your metabolic rate rise from a few drops from the first dose
 
rtmilburn said:
^^^^^Is that actually true?? If that is true why isn't EVERYONE EVERYWHERE using it?
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basal metabolic rate is measured by an increase in body temperature. people are scared of messing with the thyroid; there is a certain small percentage of the population that has an autoimmune disorder that attacks the thyroid when productivity increases, and they are responsible for alot of the precaution about it out there, but actually people in china consume obscene amounts of iodine eating seaweed all day. the dose is like 2000% rda a drop. 6 drops and you'll want to jump into ice water
 
I hope all the talk of emu skin stains didnt kill the thread. Ive concluded doubling the dose of the transdermal has not yielded significant strength increase beyond that of the 4ml a day, so the product is dosed very well
 
So I just picked up an oral and TD stack and was wondering how everyone was taking these. I think I read to apply the TD in the a.m. and then take two pills on an empty stomach pre-workout. Does this sound about right?
 
pword said:
So I just picked up an oral and TD stack and was wondering how everyone was taking these. I think I read to apply the TD in the a.m. and then take two pills on an empty stomach pre-workout. Does this sound about right?
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If you are stacking with the TD, you can do 1 or 2 caps pre-workout and the TD 6-8 hrs apart. A lot of people are loving 2 caps and the TD combined, but up to you depending on weight, training routine etc.
 
I love this sh!t other than the strength pump fullness size recomp effect it has also almost eliminated my acne. I was not expecting that at all but its nice
 
rtmilburn said:
I love this sh!t other than the strength pump fullness size recomp effect it has also almost eliminated my acne. I was not expecting that at all but its nice
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Interesting you write this, I have had significantly less pimples over the last few months. Didn't link it to this..
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Interesting you write this, I have had significantly less pimples over the last few months. Didn't link it to this..
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Ya its awesome!!! I have had really bad acne that Accutane didn't fix. With this It is almost gone and i have started football again. Which is weird because i usually breakout when i wear a helmet. Im not sure how or why it helps with acne but idc im just glad it does. I would be interested to find out how or why if i could tho. Does anyone have any ideas of why?
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya its awesome!!! I have had really bad acne that Accutane didn't fix. With this It is almost gone and i have started football again. Which is weird because i usually breakout when i wear a helmet. Im not sure how or why it helps with acne but idc im just glad it does. I would be interested to find out how or why if i could tho. Does anyone have any ideas of why?
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There is quite a bit of Literature on the positive impact various catechins and epicatechins have on improving blood flow to the skin and protect against UV induced damage which is pretty cool, it also showed increased skin layer thickness and reduction in skin dehydration. Don't know if this is impacted acne, none the less its a very nice effect.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
There is quite a bit of Literature on the positive impact various catechins and epicatechins have on improving blood flow to the skin and protect against UV induced damage which is pretty cool, it also showed increased skin layer thickness and reduction in skin dehydration. Don't know if this is impacted acne, none the less its a very nice effect.
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I was going to say it was most likely a coincidence, but after your post I guess it is possible.
rtmilburn which Ep1c Unleashed are you using? Caps or TD?
 
datsthat said:
I am also interested....... What if my wife only allows me to purchase 2 bottles......should I get to or oral? Thanks
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Try one of each so you can determine what works best you based on your routine. It will help you decide what you'll want for next time.
 
rtmilburn said:
Go with TD i think its better
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I've used the original EP1C oral and am currently using the Unleashed oral - these are really good options still for a preworkout supercharge if you don't/can't want to mess with the t/d (i.e. inconvenient timing, bf is rather high, lots of bodyhair, etc). Noticeable performance increases still with regular usage, and pump increase. Never gotten to combine oral & t/d yet, but the Lax t/d from OL was good so I'd suspect the -epi will be as well.
 
Hyde said:
I've used the original EP1C oral and am currently using the Unleashed oral - these are really good options still for a preworkout supercharge if you don't/can't want to mess with the t/d (i.e. inconvenient timing, bf is rather high, lots of bodyhair, etc). Noticeable performance increases still with regular usage, and pump increase. Never gotten to combine oral & t/d yet, but the Lax t/d from OL was good so I'd suspect the -epi will be as well.
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I agree but i can tell when im working out when i forget the TD even if i took the caps. Don't get me wrong i still love the caps EP1C UNLEASHED is the best natty product ever IMO. Its very universal can be used for cutting bulking and recomps and it also improves health and endurance.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
There is quite a bit of Literature on the positive impact various catechins and epicatechins have on improving blood flow to the skin and protect against UV induced damage which is pretty cool, it also showed increased skin layer thickness and reduction in skin dehydration. Don't know if this is impacted acne, none the less its a very nice effect.
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I haven't used an Epi-(-) product in months now but when I did I noticed my skin improved allot I am lucky to almost never get much acne. Only time I did was on my traps lol but a few months after I stopped using Epi I began to notice one or two pimples pop up randomly. I think it might be very good for your skin anyway from what I have noticed.
 
rtmilburn said:
I agree but i can tell when im working out when i forget the TD even if i took the caps. Don't get me wrong i still love the caps EP1C UNLEASHED is the best natty product ever IMO. Its very universal can be used for cutting bulking and recomps and it also improves health and endurance.
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This guy knows!
 
I just ordered 1 bottle oral couple days ago for $39.99. To be honest, I was debating between this and follidrone. I told myself that I would try out which ever was cheaper. I plan on trying TD once oral ends only if I am happy with results. This is my first time trying epicatechins product. I can't wait to start.
 
I'm about 3/4 of the way through my first bottle of the oral. This stuff is the sh*t! It looks like someone drew a roadmap on my upper chest, front delts and bi's in blue ink. I'm going to pick up the td to run at the same time. Question; I'm about to run my first ph cycle in two weeks ( Havoc Epistane ) and was wondering... should I continue running Ep1c through the cycle or stop it and run it during PCT?
 
I think you will like it!
 
HardB0iled said:
I'm about 3/4 of the way through my first bottle of the oral. This stuff is the sh*t! It looks like someone drew a roadmap on my upper chest, front delts and bi's in blue ink. I'm going to pick up the td to run at the same time. Question; I'm about to run my first ph cycle in two weeks ( Havoc Epistane ) and was wondering... should I continue running Ep1c through the cycle or stop it and run it during PCT?
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TBH, it can be run all year round as a staple product as it has general health benefits as well.
 
Hi guys,

Just wondering what your thoughts would be on my approach to running this with ABE.

1) Stack them both and run for 8 weeks
2) Run ABE for 4 weeks / stack both for 4 weeks / continue EP1C for 4 weeks
3) As above but run EP1C first
 
MyKH3LL said:
Hi guys,

Just wondering what your thoughts would be on my approach to running this with ABE.

1) Stack them both and run for 8 weeks
2) Run ABE for 4 weeks / stack both for 4 weeks / continue EP1C for 4 weeks
3) As above but run EP1C first
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Im personally not a fan of stacking multiple natty products at once, mostly because they added benefit most likely won't outweight the added cost. You will be better of tapering like option two or 3 and extending the time on the supplements.
Both are great products so it should be a solid run.
 
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