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Ergonine

anavar1715 said:
Guess that's y I doesn't have beta alanine either...
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Beta alanine doesn't need to be dosed pre-workout.

And many users do not enjoy their paresthesia (tingles) from BA.
 
L-Citrulline is a great ingredient but with Ergonine we wanted it to be ingredients you take daily for their benefit over time, Citrulline is more of an acute benefit ingredient. Also, we knew people would use Ergonine along side their pre workout, and since many pre workout products contain Citrulline these days we did not want too much overlap. Ergonine is designed to be your everyday performance product.
 
kbayne said:
Beta alanine doesn't need to be dosed pre-workout.

And many users do not enjoy their paresthesia (tingles) from BA.
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Ive heard many things about BA, never really stayed with it. I still have half a tub somewhere. I know its common to put in preworkouts, and as mentioned i think thats because of the tingles, but ive heard that BA is most effective with carb meals and builds up over time. Bayne you have any luck with BA?
 
after seeing what was in it I was assuming the glutamine would be exchanged for BA but after reading what the glutamine is paired with, could this possibly be the return of glutamine supplementation?
 
are you kidding me athletix..? just got confirmation that the package was delivered to my door... that's 2 day shipping.. I <3 yew
 
EMPIREMIND said:
Ive heard many things about BA, never really stayed with it. I still have half a tub somewhere. I know its common to put in preworkouts, and as mentioned i think thats because of the tingles, but ive heard that BA is most effective with carb meals and builds up over time. Bayne you have any luck with BA?
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I personally haven't dosed with BA in probably a few years. It may have had an impact but if so, it was small and nothing that had me saying I NEED to be on BA. I do know it has plenty of studies backing its effectiveness though.

I do know dosing BA with carbs will eliminate the tingles but so will dosing multiple smaller doses throughout the day. And yes, BA takes quite a while to become fully saturated.
 
iThrow said:
after seeing what was in it I was assuming the glutamine would be exchanged for BA but after reading what the glutamine is paired with, could this possibly be the return of glutamine supplementation?
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Yes, glutamine becomes much more efficient with the addition of l-alanine.
 
kbayne said:
Yes, glutamine becomes much more efficient with the addition of l-alanine.
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I wanna see some studies done :D if it makes glutamine more effective I may start supplementing with it on really long workout days if I can find bulk l-alanine and glutamine.

Sounds like something analyzed supps could create a bulk of, or athletix ;)
 
iThrow said:
I wanna see some studies done :D if it makes glutamine more effective I may start supplementing with it on really long workout days if I can find bulk l-alanine and glutamine.

Sounds like something analyzed supps could create a bulk of, or athletix ;)
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There's not really any need to add the bulk, we provide the studied doses in Ergonine to make it easy :)
 
iThrow said:
are you kidding me athletix..? just got confirmation that the package was delivered to my door... that's 2 day shipping.. I <3 yew
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iThrow said:
I wanna see some studies done :D if it makes glutamine more effective I may start supplementing with it on really long workout days if I can find bulk l-alanine and glutamine.

Sounds like something analyzed supps could create a bulk of, or athletix ;)
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You already have the SynerGlut (l-alanine-l-glutamine) :)
 
kbayne said:
Beta alanine doesn't need to be dosed pre-workout.

And many users do not enjoy their paresthesia (tingles) from BA.
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i hate beta alanine anyway not only that until more saftey data comes about i won't touch it, after the recent studies of
it being neurotoxic lol. not just that almost every pre workout has it^ so you would have overlap again with that
 
Ergonine is the perfect stacker

Can be used pre, with a pre,

Intra, maybe with BCAAS

Or solo any time daily
 
kbayne said:
You already have the SynerGlut (l-alanine-l-glutamine) :)
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This is the combination of two separate individual amino acids without any type of bond correct?

While I aware and understand the synergy between Alanine and Glutamine, is the synergy even further protentiated buy bonding the two together in a dipeptide (Sustamine)?
 
FireRescue said:
This is the combination of two separate individual amino acids without any type of bond correct? While I aware and understand the synergy between Alanine and Glutamine, is the synergy even further protentiated buy bonding the two together in a dipeptide (Sustamine)?
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The combination we used is what was studied to improve glutamine efficacy

We stuck with the best studied ingredients in Ergonine
 
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before as I will admit I have not read all 52 pages of this thread but I understand many of the ingredients in E9 are not acute in their effects. However I was wondering if it might be optimal to use as a post workout recovery aid, perhaps with some HBCD, immediately after a workout.
 
FireRescue said:
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before as I will admit I have not read all 52 pages of this thread but I understand many of the ingredients in E9 are not acute in their effects. However I was wondering if it might be optimal to use as a post workout recovery aid, perhaps with some HBCD, immediately after a workout.
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Using post with or without hbcd is a solid option. I personally use it pre/intra (finishing as my workout ends), in a mix that includes hbcd.
 
FireRescue said:
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before as I will admit I have not read all 52 pages of this thread but I understand many of the ingredients in E9 are not acute in their effects. However I was wondering if it might be optimal to use as a post workout recovery aid, perhaps with some HBCD, immediately after a workout.
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The great thing about ergonine is its versatility of use. Yes, it's going to be more optimal in a pre workout setting given the HICA and choline, but use as you deem applicable.
 
aaronuconn said:
The great thing about ergonine is its versatility of use. Yes, it's going to be more optimal in a pre workout setting given the HICA and choline, but use as you deem applicable.
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This

It can be used any time for your convenience but if you're someone wanting every inch out if their supps use it peri workout
 
Driven2lift said:
Ergonine is the perfect stacker

Can be used pre, with a pre,

Intra, maybe with BCAAS

Or solo any time daily
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Intra is what I do. Here's my layout recently...

60min pre - 1 scoop high volume, 2 tbsp sl granules, half scoop alphamine

intra, mixed with 32oz water - 1 scoop e9, 2 tbsp sl granules, half scoop alphamine, bcaa
 
How is Nanberry with FP alphamine?
 
The Solution said:
How are Chef bob baked goods
Nana berry goes with almost anything. I have mixed it with FP Xtend, Pink Lemonade, Orange and all were great. Honestly its just amazing flaovred product
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Nice. Was thinking it may be too sweet to combine the 2 ... May be starting in a couple of weeks when I get back on Alpha.
 
The Solution said:
How are Chef bob baked goods
Nana berry goes with almost anything. I have mixed it with FP Xtend, Pink Lemonade, Orange and all were great. Honestly its just amazing flaovred product
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Im mixing it with margarita alphamine as I type... this is also good. The tartness of the alphamine adds some excitement to the sweet nanaberry
 
GNO said:
Nice. Was thinking it may be too sweet to combine the 2 ... May be starting in a couple of weeks when I get back on Alpha.
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I have a tub that I cut 50/50 nanberry/flavorless for mixing with other flavored for this reason. You can still add a ton of water but it doesn't go to flavor/sweetness overload
 
Been doing half scoop before workout and half post. Nanaberry is so good I had to haha. Pumped for my alphamine to get in
 
How do u guys mix ur e9? Ive been doin mine just in a regular cup with a spoon and i cant seem to get all the powder to mix. Anyone else have this issue? I guess i should just use my shaker
 
I use a 20 oz Shaker, almost full of water. I add the E9, Beta-Alanine, Citrulline Malate, Agmatine, and crushed up Caffeine/Ephedrine tabs - and shake. I'd say all that mixes to about 99% (and the E9 completely).Use a shaker.
 
Shaker for sure. Easiest way possible and mixes instantly
 
Shaker here as well. hell, even a cup with a lid works. Taylor swift that ish - Shake it off
 
booneman77 said:
Pm me an addy and a style/color/brand preference ha

Edit: anyone who wants ha.
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are we talkin new or used shakers, before I pay for a cup with some extra protein still dried up stuck the bottom and im gassed like no other by the delightful scent of 2 wk old protein powder ;)
 
iThrow said:
are we talkin new or used shakers, before I pay for a cup with some extra protein still dried up stuck the bottom and im gassed like no other by the delightful scent of 2 wk old protein powder ;)
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Gotta make sure those cups and lids soak in every crevice. Don't wanna be throwing up and get dehydrated etc.
 
iThrow said:
are we talkin new or used shakers, before I pay for a cup with some extra protein still dried up stuck the bottom and im gassed like no other by the delightful scent of 2 wk old protein powder ;)
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Haha whichever you prefer ;)
 
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