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Olympus Labs EP1C UNLEASHED! Next Generation Epicatechin!

Okay AM help me out here..

This goes out to all the people who just bought the product as well

If you can accurately remember, how long did it take for EP1C Unleashed to kick in? I remember it for myself personally being very fast, so I got the idea of running samples on it, just want to see if other people feel the same way, so on our next run we can launch EP1C Unleashed Samples or trial sized bottles.
 
im transitioning from the ep1c unleashed transdermal to the unleashed oral. im noticing some problems so im doubling the dosage today. to date, epic transdermal is the best epi ever made, but i have to find a way to make an oral delivery work as good as the transdermal. my strength gains havent faded since i switched last week (in fact they continue to improve), but i dont have the insane pump or mad endurance i had from the transdermal. not sure what it is about me that causing this effect, but the oral version is the best oral version ive ever tried.
 
How are you dosing the oral if I may ask?
 
Olympus Labs said:
Okay AM help me out here..

This goes out to all the people who just bought the product as well

If you can accurately remember, how long did it take for EP1C Unleashed to kick in? I remember it for myself personally being very fast, so I got the idea of running samples on it, just want to see if other people feel the same way, so on our next run we can launch EP1C Unleashed Samples or trial sized bottles.
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Almost instantly for acute endurance/intensity effects. Roughly one week for body comp and hasn't slowed down a wink since (halfway thru second bottle)

I think a ten-15 capsule sample bottle would be good not sure what size u were thinking but would be effective at that amount IMHO.

I don't want to stop taking it legit.... I don't know if I'm going to, it's too versatile for any goal
 
Olympus Labs said:
Okay AM help me out here..

This goes out to all the people who just bought the product as well

If you can accurately remember, how long did it take for EP1C Unleashed to kick in? I remember it for myself personally being very fast, so I got the idea of running samples on it, just want to see if other people feel the same way, so on our next run we can launch EP1C Unleashed Samples or trial sized bottles.
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strengh in the first five days for transdermal, but the pumps and endurance started at day 7 and hit hard around day 9
 
Great, we're gonna run both. I'll try to make the trial size bottles extremely cost effective as well as i know people tend to charge a surplus for these.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
How are you dosing the oral if I may ask?
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ok, i was doing a pump of the transdermal around 11a before breakfast and again around midnight before dinner. i discontinued the transdermal at about day 11 when the oral arrived and since then ive been taking 1 cap twice a day at exactly the same times ( on an empty stomach) as the transdermal. bear in mind, i was a total nonresponder to regular oral epi at 300mg twice a day, so im in a different boat than alot of users. obviosly, the difference between going from the transdermal unleashed to the unleashed pill is pretty extreme for me, considering i would be pumped for three days straight after a workout; i was so pumped on workout days that i wanted to work out again at the end of the day and more or less felt like i was wasting a workout opportunity by going to sleep at night. just talking about it makes me want to start back with the transdermal again, but i have to explore the higher dose.
 
thescience said:
ok, i was doing a pump of the transdermal around 11a before breakfast and again around midnight before dinner. i discontinued the transdermal at about day 11 when the oral arrived and since then ive been taking 1 cap twice a day at exactly the same times ( on an empty stomach) as the transdermal. bear in mind, i was a total nonresponder to regular oral epi at 300mg twice a day, so im in a different boat than alot of users. obviosly, the difference between going from the transdermal unleashed to the unleashed pill is pretty extreme for me, considering i would be pumped for three days straight after a workout; i was so pumped on workout days that i wanted to work out again at the end of the day and more or less felt like i was wasting a workout opportunity by going to sleep at night. just talking about it makes me want to start back with the transdermal again, but i have to explore the higher dose.
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try dosing 2 caps 30 mins preworkout
 
Olympus Labs said:
try dosing 2 caps 30 mins preworkout
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thanks for the suggestion; i can see how dosing preworkout would be beneficial, but is there something particular to the oral version where dosing preworkout matters more? the question im faced with here is whether i go back to the transdermal or find a way to make the oral just as effective for my particular absorption limitations
 
At the expense of over simplifying:

Oral is designed for a faster onset, higher peak blood levels but it's metabolized and wears off a bit faster then the TD.

TD allows for steady amounts being delivered over a longer period of time.

This is why stacking them works so well. TD allows for a steady amount to be presented to the blood and the oral can give a nice pre-workout spike.

If you dose too far ahead of the workout, the oral will bemetabolized and not as effective. However the increase in follistatin will allow for continued improvements(as you have noted).
 
thescience said:
thanks for the suggestion; i can see how dosing preworkout would be beneficial, but is there something particular to the oral version where dosing preworkout matters more? the question im faced with here is whether i go back to the transdermal or find a way to make the oral just as effective for my particular absorption limitations
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I believe 2 caps pre will provide you the pump, endurance, and stamina youre craving for. Absorption with oral will start working pretty fast whereas release with the td will be more gradual. Therefore dosing the oral preworkout will give you the acute effects your wanting, i still get the all day pump feeling from the oral dosing this way
 
My Ep1c Unleashed will be delivered tomorrow... Looking forward to seeing how you guys improved an already real nice product!

Matt
 
slimsaw00 said:
My Ep1c Unleashed will be delivered tomorrow... Looking forward to seeing how you guys improved an already real nice product!

Matt
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Please try to keep a mental note of when you see it kick in / working for the survey's sake :P
 
Olympus Labs said:
Please try to keep a mental note of when you see it kick in / working for the survey's sake :P
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Honestly I don't know how accurate my opinion would be as I'm currently finishing a bottle of a product that contains (-)epi.... Now if you want me to note if I notice any changes between products I'll gladly do that.

Matt
 
gentlemen, your posts are most helpful; im thinking about increasing doses or going for some kind of around the clock protocall; how long a period of time is the transdermal in the blood after dosing?

also, while im here on Mt. Olympus, i noticed your transdermal laxogenin; i was a nonresponder to the oral; have you all heard of any cases where the transdermal delivered where the oral didnt?
 
thescience said:
gentlemen, your posts are most helpful; im thinking about increasing doses or going for some kind of around the clock protocall; how long a period of time is the transdermal in the blood after dosing?

also, while im here on Mt. Olympus, i noticed your transdermal laxogenin; i was a nonresponder to the oral; have you all heard of any cases where the transdermal delivered where the oral didnt?
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I had a better response to the dermastrength, the transdermal delivery makes all the difference imo.
 
dbl38 said:
What's up with the sweat your **s off effect?
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That means it's working! Just one of those side effects that most people notice almost immediately
 
thescience said:
thanks for the suggestion; i can see how dosing preworkout would be beneficial, but is there something particular to the oral version where dosing preworkout matters more? the question im faced with here is whether i go back to the transdermal or find a way to make the oral just as effective for my particular absorption limitations
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Since you started with TD, try doing caps pre-WO stacked with TD pre-bed (or AM, depending on when you workout). That was the best protocol for me, followed by TD AM/PM.
 
Segansational said:
Since you started with TD, try doing caps pre-WO stacked with TD pre-bed (or AM, depending on when you workout). That was the best protocol for me, followed by TD AM/PM.
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I'm following this same protocol, it's working great!
 
Anyone pushing the doseage limits? How much transdermal does it take to reach a point where adding more has diminishing results?

Planning on starting doseage at 2ml split 1 AM 1PM for PCT.
 
Nitro41 said:
Anyone pushing the doseage limits? How much transdermal does it take to reach a point where adding more has diminishing results?

Planning on starting doseage at 2ml split 1 AM 1PM for PCT.
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Im going to be doing that once i stop hitting pr's, but at this rate that could be a while. People on regular epi maxed out with benefits at 600mg a day i think, but this new delivery system has to be tested; if its permeating lipid cell membranes via the phospholipid delivery then we're in uncharteted territory
 
We have not received feedback of diminishing returns at std dose since Unleashed came out. Although that has only been a few months Olympus Labs has been using it to prior to release and still loving it.
 
GNO said:
We have not received feedback of diminishing returns at std dose since Unleashed came out. Although that has only been a few months Olympus Labs has been using it to prior to release and still loving it.
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I plan on running at least 3 consecutive bottles and right now I'm only lifting 3x a week Bc I'm at such a caloric deficit that anymore would be futile. So I only take 2 caps pre workout and 1 cap on off/cardio days so 3 bottles will last me til End of August... Then I plan on increasing to 4-5 weight days and I don't want to come off then either lol ...
 
chedapalooza said:
I plan on running at least 3 consecutive bottles and right now I'm only lifting 3x a week Bc I'm at such a caloric deficit that anymore would be futile. So I only take 2 caps pre workout and 1 cap on off/cardio days so 3 bottles will last me til End of August... Then I plan on increasing to 4-5 weight days and I don't want to come off then either lol ...
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Your not the first person to say that they don't plan to discontinue usage lol. Have you tried dosing 2 caps and adding in a fourth day?
 
chedapalooza said:
I plan on running at least 3 consecutive bottles and right now I'm only lifting 3x a week Bc I'm at such a caloric deficit that anymore would be futile. So I only take 2 caps pre workout and 1 cap on off/cardio days so 3 bottles will last me til End of August... Then I plan on increasing to 4-5 weight days and I don't want to come off then either lol ...
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In this deficit, how do you feel Ep1c is helping? Still gaining strength? Hows vascularity, hardness?
 
Nitro41 said:
In this deficit, how do you feel Ep1c is helping? Still gaining strength? Hows vascularity, hardness?
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Vascularity is nuts my ex accused me of taking steroids finally since we broke up 3 months ago Bc I have huge veins running thru my biceps and shoulders, even lat veins are appearing now and I'm getting the v taper in my lower abs which I've NEVER had being a true endomorph. Fullness is Around the clock and the strength is consistent with where I was at 175lbs and I'm 150-155 right now based on water fluctuation. I actually set Pr for weighted pull-ups at this body weight (+25lbs for 5) and overhead press (110lbs x 5) and db press (60x5) never put up 60's by myself at any body weight....

The biggest thing I've noticed since almost right away was the endurance. Despite being so depleted calorically, I never want to leave the gym...
 
chedapalooza said:
Nope lol 3 weight days and 3-4 hiit days is plenty right now
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Oh I didn't realize you were doing cardio in between.

You can consider dropping the oral entirely on non-weight days.

2 caps Oral pre-wo on weight days and one squirt TD everyday. I think it will give you better strength, recovery and may help you on the tail end of your cut.
 
Ive seen someone also suggest using only TD on off days and 2 caps pre on workout days with 1 pump before bed of the TD
 
chedapalooza said:
Vascularity is nuts my ex accused me of taking steroids finally since we broke up 3 months ago Bc I have huge veins running thru my biceps and shoulders, even lat veins are appearing now and I'm getting the v taper in my lower abs which I've NEVER had being a true endomorph. Fullness is Around the clock and the strength is consistent with where I was at 175lbs and I'm 150-155 right now based on water fluctuation. I actually set Pr for weighted pull-ups at this body weight (+25lbs for 5) and overhead press (110lbs x 5) and db press (60x5) never put up 60's by myself at any body weight....

The biggest thing I've noticed since almost right away was the endurance. Despite being so depleted calorically, I never want to leave the gym...
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Damn. How much are you dosing?
 
I love the TD. About to start the pills too (was finishing up a bottle of Vital Labs Epi 2.0--wonder if I will notice a difference with OL).

For the TD, I HIGHLY recommend using a dropper instead of the pump. The pump, at least for mine, tended to spray the Ep1c everywhere, and it's tough to clean off of a wall.

Insane vascularity and endurance though. I transferred mine to an old RC glass dropper bottle and it's all good now.
 
ZackD89 said:
I love the TD. About to start the pills too (was finishing up a bottle of Vital Labs Epi 2.0--wonder if I will notice a difference with OL).

For the TD, I HIGHLY recommend using a dropper instead of the pump. The pump, at least for mine, tended to spray the Ep1c everywhere, and it's tough to clean off of a wall.

Insane vascularity and endurance though. I transferred mine to an old RC glass dropper bottle and it's all good now.
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Were you stacking the TD with the other epi clone? Please elaborate on that. I think you'll love running the TD with the oral ep1c unleashed
 
Olympus Labs said:
Were you stacking the TD with the other epi clone? Please elaborate on that. I think you'll love running the TD with the oral ep1c unleashed
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Yeah. I was doing the TD every day in the morning and the other oral Epi pre-workout. Finishing that bottle today and then I'll be using the oral Ep1c unleashed instead.
 
thescience said:
Damn. How much are you dosing?
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Just two caps prior to workouts. I am also using only 25mg of elim1nate (5 weeks on) and just added LJ100 last week so I don't think that's had anything to do with it. I took the unleashed for 4 weeks completely solo and the results I've touted were from it solo.

With my current setup I want to get blood work done and just put in a call. I'm curious to see if the LJ can really lower my shbg which was high back in March at 51.
 
ZackD89 said:
Yeah. I was doing the TD every day in the morning and the other oral Epi pre-workout. Finishing that bottle today and then I'll be using the oral Ep1c unleashed instead.
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Were you doing 2 ml all at once? I think splitting the TD dosing would be best, and then the 2 caps pre-workout. Welcome to PR city man
 
ZackD89 said:
I love the TD. About to start the pills too (was finishing up a bottle of Vital Labs Epi 2.0--wonder if I will notice a difference with OL).

For the TD, I HIGHLY recommend using a dropper instead of the pump. The pump, at least for mine, tended to spray the Ep1c everywhere, and it's tough to clean off of a wall.

Insane vascularity and endurance though. I transferred mine to an old RC glass dropper bottle and it's all good now.
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Hold on, you tried epi 2.0? I was interested but i couldnt digest the ad; they claimed sulfer atoms destroy epi when taken transdermally: having added 30lbs to my cleans at the time putting this goop on my arms, i couldnt accept their premise. Anyway, how was it?
 
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