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Oral trest cycle

slenderman

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Hey all i have oral trestolone in10mg tablets x 90,i cannot seem to find any good info on trest i am wondering how long i should be on cycle and what gains i should expect and what dose should i do per day
 
By itself it would be very weak. Short half life (3 hrs I think). Dose will not be enough. Is that all you have?
 
I meant do you have other compounds to stack it with. Trest oral by itself will not be worth a cycle.
 
What results did you get,do you think that instead of just pre workout spreading the doses 3times a day e.g morning preworkout ,just before dinner vs just preworkout as we know the half life is 3 hours meaning effects can be exerted for up to 6 hours as only half the trest would be excreted at 3 hours,as it would lead to a longer protein synthesis event
 
Alot of Ph places online in the uk have closed down altho they aint illegal here,thank you i can't wait to try trest
 
That's like a short lived gains though. Stacking it with a td is totally different than just running it preworkout. I'm not a fan of standalone trest caps. Sorry yall
 
slenderman said:
Thank you i respect your opinion,what would you reccommend and why
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I cnt make it for you from scratch. Find a log here somewhere that best describes your goal and see if you can emulate that cycle. Find one with the right supports and pct. You should do some more reading then maybe ask us what to alter. What I can tell you is trest preworkout is a waste of cycle.
 
It makes a great test base for other compounds, pick a methyl and stack
 
slenderman said:
What methly gives somewhat permeant gains not just bloat and water
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Halo, dimethadrol, epistane, Triumph all come to mind. All of them would stack perfect with trest
 
Jay cutler and ronnie coleman and alot of other pros use a shortened range of motion in places that produce most tension and resistance, do you think that contributes alot to there initial gains be4 going pro and would it work foe mr average
 
slenderman said:
Jay cutler and ronnie coleman and alot of other pros use a shortened range of motion in places that produce most tension and resistance, do you think that contributes alot to there initial gains be4 going pro and would it work foe mr average
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I have absolutely no idea. Good question for the exercise science forum
 
slenderman said:
Jay cutler and ronnie coleman and alot of other pros use a shortened range of motion in places that produce most tension and resistance, do you think that contributes alot to there initial gains be4 going pro and would it work foe mr average
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They have decade of experience in contracting and stretching the target muscle. I do this to keep tension on the muscle and not rest at the top of the exercise. Everyone is different and you have to figure out what works for you. Just focus on the stretch and contraction and really "feeling" the muscle work and the gains will come as long as your working hard, eating right, and in this case supplementing. However, A new lifter should use a full range of motion. If you are a new lifter you should not be considering steroids.
 
Thank you,just for a bit of history im a new personal trainer with least 1-2 years lifting under my bely and 1 year proper nutrition,im wondering if i did a hybrid routine witj 2 days devoted to bodybuilder moves with like partial reps as you descrived and then 2 days powerlifting
 
slenderman said:
Thank you,just for a bit of history im a new personal trainer with least 1-2 years lifting under my bely and 1 year proper nutrition,im wondering if i did a hybrid routine witj 2 days devoted to bodybuilder moves with like partial reps as you descrived and then 2 days powerlifting
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You still have all kinds of natural gains to make, wait on the ph a few years.
 
slenderman said:
Thank you,just for a bit of history im a new personal trainer with least 1-2 years lifting under my bely and 1 year proper nutrition,im wondering if i did a hybrid routine witj 2 days devoted to bodybuilder moves with like partial reps as you descrived and then 2 days powerlifting
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Again, don't think of it as "partial reps", and don't aim for that. A bodybuilders primary focus is simply stretching and squeezing the muscle to its fullest under increased resistance.
 
slenderman said:
Ok so stretching squesseing method and powerlifting days do u think that would work
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Like reps4jesus stated above, you're probably best off using a full range of motion and focusing on proper technique and form, strength and muscle gains will come with time as long as your training and diet are good.
 
The man obviously knows what he's talking about is my point
 
slenderman said:
Thank you,just for a bit of history im a new personal trainer with least 1-2 years lifting under my bely and 1 year proper nutrition,im wondering if i did a hybrid routine witj 2 days devoted to bodybuilder moves with like partial reps as you descrived and then 2 days powerlifting
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You don't need steroids you need a experienced personal trainer who will teach you how to lift and eat

Would you expect a 1st or 2nd grader to understand college material?
 
I believe it would give me the relevant tools and knowledge base but its down to me to interpret that information aand apply it while experimenting with what works for me
 
people have somehow started making the mistake of using oral trest as a test base only in a stack with another oral or using 75-100mg in a standalone cycle. this somehow led to the idea that its not worth it for solo runs.
i have used oral trest at 300mg a day and it was comparable to high dosed deca in terms of mass gains with better strength and fatloss.
trest is one of the best aas around ime, it just needs enough of a dose. in its injectable form it is much more potent than tren. oral has about 30% BA ime, so using 150mg+ will give a dose that can rival or even beat moderate to high dosed deca or tren.
i think i will open a separate thread on how to use oral trest for ideal results.
 
in terms of gains the oral worked better for me. i think oral BA is quite high with trest and i think people overestimate TD BA. you may be right in terms of consistency of hormone release though.
td never gave me the mass and strength gains of oral trest and i took TD up to 400mg/day just because it didn't have the effects i expected.
gainwise oral was better at 150mg than TD at any dose. TD was legit too as it was olympus labs.
 
Ive never dosed the caps above 150mg. I just felt the TD gave better overall benefits (libido, mass, strength, alpha, etc) than oral...but Im talking as a test base when running something else suppressive.
 
i agree you are probably right regarding the test base.
how high did you run the td? how did you space the oral?

my experience is that high levels of aas at once trigger a greater anabolic response than more spaced dosing. people think if the half life is 3 hours they need to dose 3,4,5 times per day. the thing is that the steroid triggers various pathways that lead to its effects which last far longer than the presence if the compound, meaning one could dose an oral once daily and would still have the anabolic effects all day which can be easily seen when taking into consideration that people rarely lose their gains in pct but later. it takes some time to activate the pathways and it also takes time until the effects completely fade out.
if i used 50mg dbol for example i would use the whole 50mg preworkout, maybe split the dose on non-workout days.
with trest i would do 2x75mg or at 300mg even 2x150mg. i realize people will disagree with this a lot but i believe in eliciting the greatest anabolic response possible at once, the effects will not stop with the half-life or anything.

however, i have very thick skin so maybe the TD didn't work so well because of this. and i mean thick skin, my bf was far below 10% at the time.
 
maybe i should try applying to forearms, behind the knees (dont know the word, 2nd language) and tops of feet as skin is thinner there.
150mg TD+150oral could be interesting.
 
redman24 said:
maybe i should try applying to forearms, behind the knees (dont know the word, 2nd language) and tops of feet as skin is thinner there.
150mg TD+150oral could be interesting.
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I ran the oral/td combo up to 225mg and it really made me feel like crap. 100 to 125mg is where it's at for oral and/or td trest
 
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