ma70
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Haha wow. If I was on 800 calories every day I'd probably off myself.
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Haha wow. If I was on 800 calories every day I'd probably off myself.
LiveToLift
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My lord I would feel so damn depleted after one day!
Auslifter
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solo right now. but 2 scoops of jack3d advanced and 300mg dmba hcl as the pre later. 2 Shift in the morning. and the stims 6-8 hours later
Xrkc6x
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you know I am using it in SOLO and its working fine, I am wondering how this thing can also give me the rock solid effect and the pump I have.... it looks like I am leaning out and growing too...... it must be something else.... ?
I was also wondering what if I take 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps before sleep, has anyone tried?
thanks
ma70
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Stacked with 200mg Caffeine.
Also, it's another day today and I survived the 800 calorie day MUCH easier. Thanks PES Shift! Great psychological boost (wasn't ravenous, and mood was better)
bdcc
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Leaning out and growing at the same time sounds like forskolin. It has three trials on improved body composition.
This for me is where thermogenics are important. Adhering to the diet can be tough and if something can suppress your appetite it can be a really good tool to help dietary compliance.
aaronuconn
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Awesome, great news! Hopefully those effects continue throughout the duration of your run. The CitraRosea combo should certainly aid in the appetite suppressing department.
avega17
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I started the first bottle towards the end of an ABE and ARA run. Just started Alphamine with the second bottle last week along with ephedrine (sparingly), bacopa, ashwagandha, and additional F95
Appetite suppression is what I noticed right off the bat, not only upon dosing but also throughout the rest of the day as well. I love the addition of rhodiola rosea, and it stacks great with my other adaptogens. Definitely noticed a leaning out after just the first bottle.
This is also my first time using alphamine. I am very impressed. Good, clean energy, great taste (margarita and RL), and no sides with the yohimbe extract.
So far I'm down about 10 pounds from when I started cutting a few weeks before starting Shift and I aim to get down another 10 pounds in the next 2-3 months. I have made minimal alterations to my diet (still eating 3300 kcal), so I have a lot of room to play with. Cardio has been at a minimum as well.
Mass retention has been excellent. I attribute that to the HICA (E9 and Alphamine), ephedrine, and especially F95. Strength retention as well, although it's not as sustained. Meaning I can still hit my previous numbers, but I can't do as many sets or hit the same intensity as frequently during my training week. But, that's somewhat expected and I don't take many days off, so recovery may be a factor.
All in all, I'm very happy with shift so far, can't wait to see what 8 weeks looks like. I recommend this product and will purchase again. I plan on running a bottle of EPro for the first time after shift is done and looking forward to what else PES has to offer.
booneman77
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Stacked with alphamine (and some other goodies...) but the "others" should be making my appetite unmanageable (its insane all the tie anyways) but I've been able to make a full switch to IF, even with morning workouts and not have any probelm fasting for much longer periods without the normal "hangry" that I get after gaps between meals.
The mood boost from alphamine + appetite suppression has made morning workouts and fasting a breeze. I've literally never had any luck with appetite suppression before (even with ECY and only VERy slight with norco) so this is HUGE for me.
The mood boost from alphamine + appetite suppression has made morning workouts and fasting a breeze. I've literally never had any luck with appetite suppression before (even with ECY and only VERy slight with norco) so this is HUGE for me.
carmaf
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I'm using Shift on its own in the morning and Alpha at night or vice versa. Used to combine them, but I get Synephrine headaches when I combine it with a lot of caffeine.
I only planned on just trying Shift for fun, so I only bought 1 bottle on insider. Turns out I love it so much, I paid full price to get another from PEScience.com. I'm going on a stim break next week for a long while and doing my first run of Erase Pro, so looking forward to that + Shift.
Also got a friend looking to lose weight and I'm getting him on Norco and then Shift as well. ALL PRAISE SHIFT. It truly is becoming my favorite PES product. The Forskolin dose alone makes it a great product, but add in everything else + open label = delicious.
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kbayne
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This seems to happen a lot. Some notice more appetite suppression from Alphamine over Norcodrene or the other way around.
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LiveToLift
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Agreed. For me Norco gives me the edge on suppression. Whereas Alphamine has the energy kick. Norco had less kick yet longer sustained in the energy category in my experience though.
aaronuconn
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Have you tried shift with Alphamine yet? I've just tried Shift + Norcodrene. 2 caps shift + 1 cap Norcodrene. Appetite stays in check. Not much of a stim rush of course but still get a nice mood boost.
touchless21
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Currently using Alphamine and ABE with new Shift
touchless21
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I might try that method. It would be easy for me to do this on Saturday and Sunday every week.
I wake up later on weekends which essentially takes a meal away plus for some reason on the weekends I have to force myself to eat.
ma70
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Well it isnt supposed to be on consecutive days. Hm.
LiveToLift
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I have not had a chance to try shift. Still finishing up my run of the OG and will put it into my next cycle soon. It has been hard holding off but it just doesn't quite fit in at the moment with my current run finishing up.
LiveToLift
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ma70
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Good luck!
Haha I've already done it once. I like Shift because I don't even care about eating for half the day even just dosing 1 cap stacked with 200mg Caffeine. The 2nd cap lets me survive the second part of the day easily.
kbayne
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Seriously awesome to hear Shift is working so well for you, especially when you do two 800kcal days!
ma70
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Yeah. I've never had synephrine until Shift, so I think this ingredient is key.
Synapsin
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ma70
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I'm hopping on shift soon and I can't wait for this
It's half my day and I'm still chugging along. I wonder what would happen if I stacked norco and shift. I had great appetitite suppression on norco as well.
bolt10
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ma70
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Tell me about it. 800 calories doesn't leave me with any carbs, and leaves me with mostly protein and whatever fats I get from Fish Oil and Soy Lecithin granules (4tbsp).
Before shift I was only using Caffeine and man...it was atrocious. I'm thankfully almost past this day without too much issue thanks to Shift.
Xrkc6x
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shift is working for me great, i was carb cycling and now I am on roughly 170g carbs 180proteins and 40g fats and I feel like I am even bigger and fuller than before, it must be the forskolin but its great! hunger is not there all day i feel hungry just in the night sometime, i am on the 3rd week (end of 3rd week) and i am happy so far
Auslifter
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shift is working for me great, i was carb cycling and now I am on roughly 170g carbs 180proteins and 40g fats and I feel like I am even bigger and fuller than before, it must be the forskolin but its great! hunger is not there all day i feel hungry just in the night sometime, i am on the 3rd week (end of 3rd week) and i am happy so far
i tested a 3rd cap, later on in the evening on my off day with no stimulants. worked like a charm. might be worth a shot if your not already using stims later on. or you could split the two caps apart
Xrkc6x
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hum that could be an option yes, I did not think about going to add the 3rd, also it is really strange cause before going to sleep, lets say 23.30/00.00 UK time (so in about half an hour lol) I always have my scoop of pets select so, I should be covered for all the night, instead I wake up at 3am in the morning hungry! lol
anyway yep I could try.... so you tested it and you are still using the 3rd one? are you taking it before sleeping?
Auslifter
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hum that could be an option yes, I did not think about going to add the 3rd, also it is really strange cause before going to sleep, lets say 23.30/00.00 UK time (so in about half an hour lol) I always have my scoop of pets select so, I should be covered for all the night, instead I wake up at 3am in the morning hungry! lol
anyway yep I could try.... so you tested it and you are still using the 3rd one? are you taking it before sleeping?
im only doing a third cap on sunday with is my only off day.
Xrkc6x
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why on the off day? any particular reason?
Auslifter
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just to help with adherence and im inactive also all day on sunday's usually to, so nice to increase energy expenditure a bit without doing anything.
Xrkc6x
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Make sense, I had my proteins and my shift cap just one, I know I should be waiting 2h before eat after taking it cause of the insuline and cause of max absorbing effects but I need to sleep lol
Anyway let's see if I'll wake up hungry in 3h lol
LiveToLift
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I take it you made it without the middle of the night snack?
Xrkc6x
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Hahahahah yes! Just woke up and I did not have any hanger issue lol, if you see my sleep pattern it's like a baby one, all deep sleep and no wake ups
booom!
luckylefty811
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had 2 shifts and 1 norco at 6am yesterday didnt eat until 730pm......dont blink once and i worked out only had eaa's in my system. insane just drank water all day long, the crazy part is i did the same thing this morning and all i had was one scoop of protein powder at 830am. stuff is amazing.
ma70
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Sounds like the majority of my 800 calorie day. Shift is something special.....the appetite suppression is better than Norco for me. (and Norco's was good)
luckylefty811
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im on my second bottle of shift just started tuesday. i have a problem with eating later in the day and this has helped tremendously.
Xrkc6x
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FOR me it's working like suppressing hunger and the cravings too!
kbayne
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One of the major benefits of Shift is for individuals who have those later in the day cravings.
Good to hear!
kbayne
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The set up you have is fine. You could try dosing both caps with the caffeine in the morning and see if the appetite suppression comes on stronger.
Xrkc6x
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Just an update for everyone, as I just said on my log, I can officially say and confirm that I am "SHIFTED" ha! For me it's the end of 3rd week and I can clearly see on the mirror and on scale and calliper, but please believe me, especially in the mirror, that my body officially "shifted" to the next level ha! So to recap, to me shift worked like a charm suppressing my hunger and my cravings, this lasted for 3 weeks and then the "magic" at the end of the 3rd week, today indeed, it really kicked in strong!
No hunger
No cravings
Water is defo leaving my body almost totally
Fat is almost not here anymore
Mood is high
Fulness sensation probably from forsk
I also see myself more solid, it has body recomp effects
And also this is happening while I have my T low and my E high due to a bad recovery from my cycle and to a long term low fats diet.
I started seeing results in the mirror since last week when I started my new diet so probably that helped too but guys, last 2 days I lost 1kg! You can see it on my log, today I got 300g up so probably that is just fluctuations but I see myself in the mirror as I don't see since long time.
This is happening at he end of 3rd week and I still have 5 weeks!!! What it's gonna do it to me by the end of the 2 months!?!? Also my plan was to add Alphamax starting of 5th week but at this poin is say it's almost no needed lol
Hopefully this will help ppl that are wondering about the effects and sides of shift, I can guarantee, based on my experience which is personal of course, that shift works and it does work in a great way, thanks PES, you did it again, you the best!
No hunger
No cravings
Water is defo leaving my body almost totally
Fat is almost not here anymore
Mood is high
Fulness sensation probably from forsk
I also see myself more solid, it has body recomp effects
And also this is happening while I have my T low and my E high due to a bad recovery from my cycle and to a long term low fats diet.
I started seeing results in the mirror since last week when I started my new diet so probably that helped too but guys, last 2 days I lost 1kg! You can see it on my log, today I got 300g up so probably that is just fluctuations but I see myself in the mirror as I don't see since long time.
This is happening at he end of 3rd week and I still have 5 weeks!!! What it's gonna do it to me by the end of the 2 months!?!? Also my plan was to add Alphamax starting of 5th week but at this poin is say it's almost no needed lol
Hopefully this will help ppl that are wondering about the effects and sides of shift, I can guarantee, based on my experience which is personal of course, that shift works and it does work in a great way, thanks PES, you did it again, you the best!