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Morning pre wo supp without crash stacked with high volume

jpnelson1978

jpnelson1978

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The title says it all. C4 seems to make me a bit more tired later in the day at work. Is there a pre wo with time released caffeine. Will the nitrates in high volume make me crash later? I would like to try high volume stacked with a good pre wo but the crash can't happen.
 
I think it's user dependent (also don't think nitrates would be cause for a crash). Typically, I've seen it from stimulants and more so in the 1,3 dmaa days.

The pre I use has 300mg caffeine (in 3 forms) and I have zero crash at all from it.
 
I would agree. Alphamine by pes would definitely do the trick. We carry it at Strong Supplement Shop if you want to take a look.
 
daniel11 said:
no carbs for breakfast. serious.
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Depends on how much (and again, the individual), but that's definitely something that could play a part. For me it's only if it's super high, but that can put me to sleep like a rock.
 
Thermopump stack (Norcodrene or Alphamine). Alphamine would allow you to use exactly as much as you need (beauty of powder dosing).

I think Focus XT would be another solid option.
 
bolt10 said:
Thermopump stack (Norcodrene or Alphamine). Alphamine would allow you to use exactly as much as you need (beauty of powder dosing). I think Focus XT would be another solid option.
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This, Leaning to Norco as the stim lasts longer and has never been reviewed to cause a crash that I have seen
 
If I kept crashing later in the day I'd pre-empt with 50mg modafinil. Well, it would be an option anyway.
 
If you are crashing off 150mg caffeine per serving i would suggest a lower stim option such as Neon Volt or Scivation Psycho.
 
I use high volume with alphamine and I love it.my favorite pump energy stack and for some reason I don't crash

Actually high volume alone helps me focus and gives me the boost and pumps I need at the gym!keeps me going and going. some times when I want some stim I just add 100 MG Caffeine
 
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Nitramine, it does have 150 caffeine though, but i stack them all the time. also can throw in another pump product, YES pump on top of a pump FTW
 
Tabascoonall said:
Nitramine, it does have 150 caffeine though, but i stack them all the time. also can throw in another pump product, YES pump on top of a pump FTW
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I tried a sample of Nitramine and didn't experience any crash. I work out fasted at 6 a.m. and it gave me a nice energy boost with great focus. I want to try it a few more times, but it might be a go-to for me in the future.

I'm currently running 2 scoops alphamine with 1 scoop E9 and I get great energy and no crash. Sometimes I use Defcon1, but they discontinued the OG version so I'm not purchasing anymore. I might swap out the the alpha for norco here soon to try it out, but I have taken norco before with great results. Steady energy and a great mood boost.

Also considering playing around with 1 scoop Conqu3r DME with 1 norco. I handle stims well, and that would provide me with 300mg caffeine plus a whole bunch of other goodies
 
jpnelson1978 said:
The title says it all. C4 seems to make me a bit more tired later in the day at work. Is there a pre wo with time released caffeine. Will the nitrates in high volume make me crash later? I would like to try high volume stacked with a good pre wo but the crash can't happen.
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A couple I've tried recently were awesome for long lasting and no crash

App nut NOvate
Performix ion (spendy)

Both had me going about 3 hours and tapered off smoothly, fwiw I'm a huge stim junkie
 
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