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Shazeezee it's time to get stupid big 18 week cycle log

McCrew530 said:
Yea man I would switch from delts to glutes switching from side to side up and down. Delts some times gave me bad PIP though.
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Yeah pinning in the delts is a pain. I uses toload it in insulin needles and pop it on my teardrop muscle on my thighs. Now that was nuts. Oh yeah I'm in to see some gainz!
 
nighthawk. said:
sorry to interrupt, i am asian, but living for already a lot of years in europe. I see your pictures and I see your stack. I must ask if it is normal in the USA to use steroids when you barely look like you've ever lifted, no offense, maybe just different habits over there. over here people consider stacking 4 substances maybe after 3-5 years of constant steroid use preceded by usually at least 5 years of natural training.

I am lifting naturally for 12 years now and i am right now preparing for my first halodrol cycle, because I had an accident whereafter i wasnt able to lift for quite a while and after getting into training again i just want to cut and maintain what i have left, not even looking to cheat on mass beyond my natural limit. pre-accidental i was 210 @5'10" - all natural, never gone beyond creatine. will all also be logged here.

i bet you would be able to gain so much more muscle without harming your body. again, i dont mean it offensive, maybe its just the way to go here, starting with gear from day1 of training. in europe most people who join the dark side usually train until they reach their natural limit or dont make much progress for a few years.

i am truly shocked by seeing this stack. its equal to suicide in my opinion, but i am very curious how this will work out, so i will follow aswell with big interest. with a stack like that you can look jacked as fuark after 18weeks if you can bear the sides.

i would love to hear your point of view and maybe from some other guys who read this post.

so far, good luck! :)
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Wow, really?! Barely lift? You must be a natural beast then
 
nighthawk. said:
sorry to interrupt, i am asian, but living for already a lot of years in europe. I see your pictures and I see your stack. I must ask if it is normal in the USA to use steroids when you barely look like you've ever lifted, no offense, maybe just different habits over there. over here people consider stacking 4 substances maybe after 3-5 years of constant steroid use preceded by usually at least 5 years of natural training.

I am lifting naturally for 12 years now and i am right now preparing for my first halodrol cycle, because I had an accident whereafter i wasnt able to lift for quite a while and after getting into training again i just want to cut and maintain what i have left, not even looking to cheat on mass beyond my natural limit. pre-accidental i was 210 @5'10" - all natural, never gone beyond creatine. will all also be logged here.

i bet you would be able to gain so much more muscle without harming your body. again, i dont mean it offensive, maybe its just the way to go here, starting with gear from day1 of training. in europe most people who join the dark side usually train until they reach their natural limit or dont make much progress for a few years.

i am truly shocked by seeing this stack. its equal to suicide in my opinion, but i am very curious how this will work out, so i will follow aswell with big interest. with a stack like that you can look jacked as fuark after 18weeks if you can bear the sides.

i would love to hear your point of view and maybe from some other guys who read this post.

so far, good luck! :)
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Strong post padduan
 
Subbed bro!!
 
of course this was metaphorically speaking ;)
looks like solid 6-12 months of training, but still a bit too early i would assume to get hormonal help. again, i am not aware of usage plans over here. i am just asking
 
Are you seriously I'm 12% body fat and 222 pounds and can bench almost 400lbs do you know anything about bodybuilding ??
 
yes, i know quite a bit about bodybuilding, powerlifting and olympic weightlifting. i was asking reasonable questions, there is no reason to get upset. speaking of almost 400pounds. i think this is around 180kg, this is of course quite strong, but i have a friend with whom i just went to have sushi who is 6'2" and 242lbs, also training fully natural, not as long as me (12years), but also solid 10 years and he bench pressed 185kg with a one second stop on his chest a few weeks ago. and he looks completely different than your pics.
 
Dma378 said:
He's trolling you bro.
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damn it, i am not trolling at all. i cant believe i get such harsh answers and zero tolerance. i am asking normal questions and expect normal answers. i emphasized that nothing is meant offensive, it might be a cultural thing or whatever. maybe people here want to accelerate things a bit further, why is it forbidden to ask? is it only allowed to give props and say "nice man, everything cool" ... when in our culture it is not. i am asking because i want to learn, this is why i registered on a US forum. to hear different stories, to read about different experiences.

but since a normal conversation is apparently not possible, then yes, i will mind my business and just read and participate in silence.
 
It wasn't at all that you we're respectfully asking a question. You straight up threw insults calling me small and ****. That's not what these boards are about. We support and help and advise. Maybe ANabolic minds isn't for you
 
nighthawk. said:
damn it, i am not trolling at all. i cant believe i get such harsh answers and zero tolerance. i am asking normal questions and expect normal answers. i emphasized that nothing is meant offensive, it might be a cultural thing or whatever. maybe people here want to accelerate things a bit further, why is it forbidden to ask? is it only allowed to give props and say "nice man, everything cool" ... when in our culture it is not. i am asking because i want to learn, this is why i registered on a US forum. to hear different stories, to read about different experiences.

but since a normal conversation is apparently not possible, then yes, i will mind my business and just read and participate in silence.
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Maybe it's a language thing but you definitely came across as a jerk... If u honestly meant no harm then apologize and move on
 
nbshazeezee said:
It wasn't at all that you we're respectfully asking a question. You straight up threw insults calling me small and ****. That's not what these boards are about. We support and help and advise. Maybe ANabolic minds isn't for you
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no, i was not throwing any insults at all. i asked if it is normal here to start such a heavy cycle with having just this bodyweight and lookings. it is not an insult to call you small, but in european terms you are much too small for such a kind of stack. consequently i asked if in the US people tend to begin riding the bicycle with a smaller mass. I mean in India and asia they usually do since stuff especially in india is more freely available and people quite look at hormonal substances as "supplements" - same goes for some eastern europe countries. but i do not know about the american situation, since i have not been neither in north or south america so far.

if i were you i would not take it so offensive because you can easily gain 20-25lbs more muscle with some years of serious training routine. isnt that a good thing? maybe due to my english skills people get me wrong but except than to write that i emphasize that nothing is meant offensive, i cant do more than that. but now i am really out from here. i will try to do some pictures pre cycle and post cycle in my log as soon as i start the usage. so far i am still preparing and need to get some questions in my thread answered.

bcazo said:
Maybe it's a language thing but you definitely came across as a jerk... If u honestly meant no harm then apologize and move on
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nope, i did not mean any harm. i thought it was pretty clear. but then, i will listen and apologize...my apologies! still follwing on the results!
 
Well on another note guys. First pin is going to be quad.
23g needle 1" shooting a ml and should go in smooth. Had a rundown on how to prepare it from a buddy.
 
Why wait multiple years to put on muscle mass when you can do it in a few months with gear? I'm sure most people who use steroids could have held off longer than they did but really what is the point? It all depends on your goals.
 
nighthawk. said:
damn it, i am not trolling at all. i cant believe i get such harsh answers and zero tolerance. i am asking normal questions and expect normal answers. i emphasized that nothing is meant offensive, it might be a cultural thing or whatever. maybe people here want to accelerate things a bit further, why is it forbidden to ask? is it only allowed to give props and say "nice man, everything cool" ... when in our culture it is not. i am asking because i want to learn, this is why i registered on a US forum. to hear different stories, to read about different experiences.

but since a normal conversation is apparently not possible, then yes, i will mind my business and just read and participate in silence.
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Maybe I can try to smooth this out. When you lead with "looks like you barely lift" even though you said no offence it will naturally come across as offensive. I think the bases of your question lays in the amount of compounds that zeezee is running. ZeeZee has ran solo compound cycles as well as stacked cycles. He started off on this forum in the same way you have been thinking about with a Halo cycle( T-bol) and did really well. He then stacked trest and dmz and later threw in epi and again got great results. Again when he first started he had been lifting for a while and had reached close to his natural limit. My boy is 6ft 2 and getting the squat bulky look is rather hard to achieve at his height and his muscles are long which is one of the reasons he doesnt look like lee priest who competed in the 220 range. Now as far as his cycle goes 250 mg of test is a very light dose and he is not overlapping the tren and SD and even if he did it would not put that much strain on his body and Primo is again a lighter compound that helps achieve that cut look which should help with his bf goal. I would even advise him to maybe bump the test up to 400mg every week and inject twice a week but thats just me.
Everyones body comp is different and everyone has their own pace.
Cheers
Oh and Zeezee I forgot to ask if you had though about competing...
 
McCrew you are the man. Thank you.

And I think I will look pretty solid aesthetically after I drop body fat because I'm pretty bulky right now. If all goes well I might do a gig just to say I did.
 
nbshazeezee said:
McCrew you are the man. Thank you.

And I think I will look pretty solid aesthetically after I drop body fat because I'm pretty bulky right now. If all goes well I might do a gig just to say I did.
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Not to sound like a queer or nothing but at your height and build you would kill it in physique
 
And Europe is the land of steroid usage. This is not something exclusive to the states. All of your statements nighthawk are purely opinion and speculation. They hold little weight in terms of facts.

As McCrew stated, this cycle is mild minus the SD. As long as he keeps that Tren at 50mg eod, it's relatively side free.

McCrew I think he is running 500/week unless it's a typo. I'll have to go back.

Yeah, 250 e4d
 
i think a lot of people forget that I am not short. I look stocky in my pictures but I am 6'2" and to look stock at plus six foot height you have to have at least little mass. A lot of taller guys really have to fight to bulk up their longer muscles
 
rascal14 said:
Why wait multiple years to put on muscle mass when you can do it in a few months with gear? I'm sure most people who use steroids could have held off longer than they did but really what is the point? It all depends on your goals.
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A few years min of natty training (and learning nutrition/ correct workout form) probably should be done by everyone, despite this ususally not occurring. Mainly because despite muscles growing at enhanced rates, the ligaments etc do not and this can be a serious problem, increase risk of injury etc.
 
nighthawk. said:
sorry to interrupt, i am asian, but living for already a lot of years in europe. I see your pictures and I see your stack. I must ask if it is normal in the USA to use steroids when you barely look like you've ever lifted, no offense, maybe just different habits over there. over here people consider stacking 4 substances maybe after 3-5 years of constant steroid use preceded by usually at least 5 years of natural training.

I am lifting naturally for 12 years now and i am right now preparing for my first halodrol cycle, because I had an accident whereafter i wasnt able to lift for quite a while and after getting into training again i just want to cut and maintain what i have left, not even looking to cheat on mass beyond my natural limit. pre-accidental i was 210 @5'10" - all natural, never gone beyond creatine. will all also be logged here.

i bet you would be able to gain so much more muscle without harming your body. again, i dont mean it offensive, maybe its just the way to go here, starting with gear from day1 of training. in europe most people who join the dark side usually train until they reach their natural limit or dont make much progress for a few years.

i am truly shocked by seeing this stack. its equal to suicide in my opinion, but i am very curious how this will work out, so i will follow aswell with big interest. with a stack like that you can look jacked as fuark after 18weeks if you can bear the sides.

i would love to hear your point of view and maybe from some other guys who read this post.

so far, good luck! :)
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Are you writing a book? next time make your own thread douche bag.
 
nighthawk. said:
damn it, i am not trolling at all. i cant believe i get such harsh answers and zero tolerance. i am asking normal questions and expect normal answers. i emphasized that nothing is meant offensive, it might be a cultural thing or whatever. maybe people here want to accelerate things a bit further, why is it forbidden to ask? is it only allowed to give props and say "nice man, everything cool" ... when in our culture it is not. i am asking because i want to learn, this is why i registered on a US forum. to hear different stories, to read about different experiences.

but since a normal conversation is apparently not possible, then yes, i will mind my business and just read and participate in silence.
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Make your own thread next time. Negged for trolling.

McCrew530 said:
Maybe I can try to smooth this out. ..
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maybe not...
 
NoAddedHmones said:
A few years min of natty training (and learning nutrition/ correct workout form) probably should be done by everyone, despite this ususally not occurring. Mainly because despite muscles growing at enhanced rates, the ligaments etc do not and this can be a serious problem, increase risk of injury etc.
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For sure, no one should start out training on steroids. I definitely think you should have a few years experience as well, but that doesn't mean a power lifter can't use steroids just because he doesn't look huge and lean. Which is what that one guy was making it seem like.
 
nighthawk. said:
damn it, i am not trolling at all. i cant believe i get such harsh answers and zero tolerance. i am asking normal questions and expect normal answers. i emphasized that nothing is meant offensive, it might be a cultural thing or whatever. maybe people here want to accelerate things a bit further, why is it forbidden to ask? is it only allowed to give props and say "nice man, everything cool" ... when in our culture it is not. i am asking because i want to learn, this is why i registered on a US forum. to hear different stories, to read about different experiences.

but since a normal conversation is apparently not possible, then yes, i will mind my business and just read and participate in silence.
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Talking about your culture and all that isn't what I wanna hear about. Yes everyone has their opinions, and yours is just rude. Post a pic of yourself and I wanna see how natural you are. My culture Here in Hawaii goes something like this " if you talk the talk you'd better walk the walk. You are probably just a 98 pound weakling nerd anyways. Or maybe the water you drink from the stream makes you strong. With 11 posts your a troll!
 
peter01 said:
Nbshaz, we're all here to support you my bro. Don't let one bad apple get to you. You clearly know what you're doing.
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Exactly
 
Thanks guys. Now I'm sitting here anxiously waiting for the test to kick :P I have been on SD for three days that should hit me like a freight train soon
 
Calm your titties, guys! ☺️☺️

You look freaking amazing!!!

We've followed him through his struggles, hard work, and dedication. We're all very proud of him! ???????? ☺️☺️
 
Subbed!


nighthawk. said:
i am truly shocked by seeing this stack. its equal to suicide in my opinion ........18weeks if you can bear the sides.
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Not sure what he's talking about. There is nothing over the top in this cycle. Looks very moderate to me. Moderate, effective doses and only 1 oral. Looks real good imo, without unnecessarily being over the top.
 
peter01 said:
Come on man!!!! That's BIG!!!! Hell yeah!!! I'm pumped for you man. Really am. This cycle is special bro. Almost second to having a firstborn hahaha

Good luck man. May all your quad pins go smoothly! Lol
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Thank you man! Yeah I'm so excited. And let us pray hahaha.
 
peter01 said:
Come on man!!!! That's BIG!!!! Hell yeah!!! I'm pumped for you man. Really am. This cycle is special bro. Almost second to having a firstborn hahaha

Good luck man. May all your quad pins go smoothly! Lol
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My first one F-ing sucked. But I went all nuts and it was about 2.5mL. Now it's as if nothing even happened. Love quads.
 
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