Next PES Insider Deal???

They both contain citrus aquarium and we advice people do not combine them. Shift already has a pretty good dose of citrus aquarium (specifically extracted for high synephrine content in it).

That moment when auto correct hits and you start talking about 'citrus aquarium'. :D
 
So I can stack this with any fat burner but make sure it doesn't have bitter orange ? And what else ? What about pres containing this ? I just got novate from app but and it has bitter orange in it.
 
So I can stack this with any fat burner but make sure it doesn't have bitter orange ? And what else ? What about pres containing this ? I just got novate from app but and it has bitter orange in it.

Dude the Reps are recommending that you don't combine it with products containing synephrine. This doesn't mean you can't, just be prudent with how you approach it and start with a single cap with a lower dose of your PWO and assess from there.
 
Dude the Reps are recommending that you don't combine it with products containing synephrine. This doesn't mean you can't, just be prudent with how you approach it and start with a single cap with a lower dose of your PWO and assess from there.

Ok thanks I'm hoping this helps me turn the corner with my cut dropped 16lbs since March
 
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118333"/> checking out the citrus aquarium gotta extract it from the citrus sharks

Classic.

Never stop random image edits lol
 
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checking out the citrus aquarium gotta extract it from the citrus sharks

I like how I am looking into the aquarium whilst topless.

And I am holding some pull up bars. ;)
 
OK guys, now that this insider is out of the way......


When is the next one and will it be the new pre workout we've all been anticipating? Lol
 
OK guys, now that this insider is out of the way...... When is the next one and will it be the new pre workout we've all been anticipating? Lol

Who knows...

Or rather won't tell you ;)

Secrets are more fun
 
I like how I am looking into the aquarium whilst topless.

And I am holding some pull up bars. ;)

thats a pair of binoculars silly, you must of ran down there after a photo shoot on the beach

OK guys, now that this insider is out of the way......


When is the next one and will it be the new pre workout we've all been anticipating? Lol


this, back to making more photoshops of the future insiders i want to see
 
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's pretty much insider pricing on the Blondiedoodle 8lb stack from bb. Just received my order. Good 'ol Lasership — doorbells, not even once.
 
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's pretty much insider pricing on the Blondiedoodle 8lb stack from bb. Just received my order. Good 'ol Lasership — doorbells, not even once.

Haha FCK lassrship dude

I got a delivery confirmation from them saying a package was left at the front door...I eventually found it buried in a snow bank by the road with no bag.
 
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's pretty much insider pricing on the Blondiedoodle 8lb stack from bb. Just received my order. Good 'ol Lasership — doorbells, not even once.

I need an 8lb CnC/PBC stack IN MY LIFE so bad.
 
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's pretty much insider pricing on the Blondiedoodle 8lb stack from bb. Just received my order. Good 'ol Lasership — doorbells, not even once.

I did previously, great deal. Holding out for a flash coupon code (>10%) as I whittle down my inventory.
 
I did previously, great deal. Holding out for a flash coupon code (>10%) as I whittle down my inventory.

There is a Facebook grp with all the active BB 10% off codes fyi.
 
There is a Facebook grp with all the active BB 10% off codes fyi.
Yes I know, want more than 10% off though. Shipping has gone up recently and dollar conversion sux.
 
OK guys, now that this insider is out of the way......


When is the next one and will it be the new pre workout we've all been anticipating? Lol

We actually have no definitive plans for the next one. We are working on a few things but don't know for sure which will be finished first.

Once we know we will keep you updated. :)
 
Would shift be better stacked with just caffeine ? Or can I stack with l-carnitine as well ?
 
Would shift be better stacked with just caffeine ? Or can I stack with l-carnitine as well ?

Depends on what you are looking for. Need stimulation? Stack with caffeine (or a stim of choice, other than something containing synephrine). Want other potential benefits? Stack with LCLT/ALCAR. Etc.

What exactly are you looking for benefit wise to be added to Shift?
 
Depends on what you are looking for. Need stimulation? Stack with caffeine (or a stim of choice, other than something containing synephrine). Want other potential benefits? Stack with LCLT/ALCAR. Etc.

What exactly are you looking for benefit wise to be added to Shift?

Ramp up metabolism in the morning
 
Ramp up metabolism in the morning

Honestly I don't feel you'll need anything to particularly amp up those benefits of shift. I'd try it solo for that first only adding stims if you need the energy to start.
 
Honestly I don't feel you'll need anything to particularly amp up those benefits of shift. I'd try it solo for that first only adding stims if you need the energy to start.

Ok I should get it tomorrow I'll start off with it solo then go from there.
 
4 bottles of shift getting deliverd Monday! Hoping this will help me drop 18lbs! 190 and shredded this summer is the goal.
 
New Shift worth trying? Was not enthused by the old one at all. But PES has my utmost trust now (from results I've seen from Alpha NorCo and Amino IV) in conjunction w/ my diet/training.
 
New Shift worth trying? Was not enthused by the old one at all. But PES has my utmost trust now (from results I've seen from Alpha NorCo and Amino IV) in conjunction w/ my diet/training.

Original shift was more of a single action product while the new one benefits fat loss through several methods. I do know more in depth information should be coming on the actions of the ingredients soon (if the current one isn't sciency enough for ya ;)).

Honestly if you've ever used Forskolin-95, Olive leaf extract, and Rhodiola you'd probably be happy with Shift for the price. The other ingredients should only add on top of that and feedback should be interesting once it starts rolling in.

I personally would be interested in your feedback, and anyone else who had experiences with the previous shift, especially of you hadn't enjoyed the previous incarnation.
 
New Shift worth trying? Was not enthused by the old one at all. But PES has my utmost trust now (from results I've seen from Alpha NorCo and Amino IV) in conjunction w/ my diet/training.

Certainly worth trying. The Forskolin content alone makes it worth it especially at the insider price right now.

If you haven't, I would read the write up on Shift.
 
Certainly worth trying. The Forskolin content alone makes it worth it especially at the insider price right now.

If you haven't, I would read the write up on Shift.

The write ups are complete crap IMHO. I do value the feedback of folks on this website though. (Even PES reps I feel give an honest opinion, albeit biased). Shoot. I'm biased too!
 
Regarding the shift + caffeine, is 320 mgs of caffeine the limit for the entire day or can additional caffeine be added 6-8 hours after dosing shift?
 
The write ups are complete crap IMHO. I do value the feedback of folks on this website though. (Even PES reps I feel give an honest opinion, albeit biased). Shoot. I'm biased too!

Can you please elaborate why you think write ups are crap? Feedback is always welcome.
 
The write ups are complete crap IMHO. I do value the feedback of folks on this website though. (Even PES reps I feel give an honest opinion, albeit biased). Shoot. I'm biased too!

How so? Just curious what you think would make them better since they are very detailed showing studies/data/results of each compound.
 
How so? Just curious what you think would make them better since they are very detailed showing studies/data/results of each compound.

They show results of each compound. But let's be honest: proprietary blends are not as conclusive as each individual ingredient would be separately.

Now don't get me wrong: I'm about I order 4-8 bottles of Shift BUT I'm burnt out on reading all of these "studies" that make each new product seem like it's a ground breaking discovery.

Maybe some of the nutra planet reviews rubbed me the wrong way.

I go by what you guys say on here much more so than write ups. But I'm a dumb ass. FWIW.
 
They show results of each compound. But let's be honest: proprietary blends are not as conclusive as each individual ingredient would be separately.

Now don't get me wrong: I'm about I order 4-8 bottles of Shift BUT I'm burnt out on reading all of these "studies" that make each new product seem like it's a ground breaking discovery.

Maybe some of the nutra planet reviews rubbed me the wrong way.

I go by what you guys say on here much more so than write ups. But I'm a dumb ass. FWIW.

You're too hard on yourself! The write ups aren't claiming that these compounds have never been used anywhere before, but many times we use them to highlight ingredients that are novel to supplements. It's also a way to explain why ingredients have been included rather than just telling the customers to blindly trust a company. Thanks to forums like AM, supplement users are a lot more educated these days and want to know what the justification is behind combining ingredients together rather than just throwing a bunch of random ingredients together. A lot of research goes into the creation of PES products and the write ups reflect that.
 
You're too hard on yourself! The write ups aren't claiming that these compounds have never been used anywhere before, but many times we use them to highlight ingredients that are novel to supplements. It's also a way to explain why ingredients have been included rather than just telling the customers to blindly trust a company. Thanks to forums like AM, supplement users are a lot more educated these days and want to know what the justification is behind combining ingredients together rather than just throwing a bunch of random ingredients together. A lot of research goes into the creation of PES products and the write ups reflect that.

Not to mention Shift is not prop blended :)
 
Not to mention Shift is not prop blended :)
I would like to see more non-prop blends from PES.
Not trying to criticize the company, but that has been a factor in buying some stuff in the past.
 
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