Cholesterol Levels

Mr.Tanno

New member
Hello folks.
I just had some blood work done for a Heath assessment for work and was curious how to change or support raising or lowering HDL/LDL.
My results were :
HDL- 44
LDL-120
Triglycerides-83
Total Cholesterol-181
My LDL seems a tad bit higher than normal... I'm active eat well etc. Wondering if I'm missing something in my diet. I'm 29 years old /Male.
 
You're fine. You HDL is on the lower side, but is within range. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do to raise HDL.
 
Don't you mean HDL could be higher? That's the good cholesterol.

The LDL is fine, most recommend under 100. LDL is the bad cholesterol.
 
vvs1 said:
Don't you mean HDL could be higher? That's the good cholesterol.

The LDL is fine, most recommend under 100. LDL is the bad cholesterol.
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Despise the terms good and bad as it is not completely true. You NEED LDL to transport cholesterol throughout the body and so to call it "bad" is a gross overstatement (try surviving without it).

Total cholesterol is not indicative of heart disease per se, but those with a high carb diet may be at greater risk and high carb diets increase blood triglycerides which interact with LDL and make the particles small and dense and thus more likely to penetrate the endothelium of artery walls. Higher fat, lower carb diets tend to do the opposite and make the LDL particles large so they are unable to penetrate the endothelium.

Moral, eat less carbohydrates and try move from the mindset that LDL is "bad" as it is the carbs that make them harmful.

As trigs are transported in the blood by lipoproteins, large, triglyceride-rich VLDL1 results in the formation of small, dense LDL through triglyceride exchange and subsequent hydrolysis. Small, dense LDL are cleared from plasma relatively slowly and tend to accumulate in the circulation where they exert their atherogenic effects.

As an extra, smaller, denser LDL particles bind less to their receptors which increases plasma residence time and thus oxidation (which is bad). The same is true for HDL. Trigs can interact with these as well by reducing HDL plasma residence time and thus decrease reverse cholesterol transport

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For those who may have issues, I'd start by looking at your diet. Some other things to look into are Citrus Bergamot, Sytrinol, and Pantethine.
 
vvs1 said:
Don't you mean HDL could be higher? That's the good cholesterol.

The LDL is fine, most recommend under 100. LDL is the bad cholesterol.
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Lol, yea I definetely mistyped. I meant HDL could be a tad higher
 
Jiigzz post is right on the money and Judo is correct- you really want your HDL a bit higher. Overall cholesterol only paints a little picture, but closer to 200 is better than closer to 150.
 
I just got my lipid panel back a few weeks ago. LDL 101, HDL 43, triglycerides 56, cholesterol 156, vldl 11.

Do I go on a fat binge? Eat junk fast food and healthy fats like nuts, omegas and olive oil? I'm 25 yo if it matters.
 
vvs1 said:
I just got my lipid panel back a few weeks ago. LDL 101, HDL 43, triglycerides 56, cholesterol 156, vldl 11.

Do I go on a fat binge? Eat junk fast food and healthy fats like nuts, omegas and olive oil? I'm 25 yo if it matters.
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I wouldnt suggest eating junk food. Id go for the other options you listed
 
vvs1 said:
Would you recommend for me to increase cholesterol? And LDL to increase or decrease? Thanks
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I would just advise reading the data and making your own choice. Dont go into it with the mindset of purposefully increasing cholesterol levels, but instead limiting carbohydrates and increasing better fats (all except trans).

It doesnt mean go keto, but IMO opt for 30% or less from CHO
 
Jiigzz said:
I would just advise reading the data and making your own choice. Dont go into it with the mindset of purposefully increasing cholesterol levels, but instead limiting carbohydrates and increasing better fats (all except trans).

It doesnt mean go keto, but IMO opt for 30% or less from CHO
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Solid advice ^
 
Jiigzz said:
Despise the terms good and bad as it is not completely true. You NEED LDL to transport cholesterol throughout the body and so to call it "bad" is a gross overstatement (try surviving without it).

Total cholesterol is not indicative of heart disease per se, but those with a high carb diet may be at greater risk and high carb diets increase blood triglycerides which interact with LDL and make the particles small and dense and thus more likely to penetrate the endothelium of artery walls. Higher fat, lower carb diets tend to do the opposite and make the LDL particles large so they are unable to penetrate the endothelium.

Moral, eat less carbohydrates and try move from the mindset that LDL is "bad" as it is the carbs that make them harmful.

As trigs are transported in the blood by lipoproteins, large, triglyceride-rich VLDL1 results in the formation of small, dense LDL through triglyceride exchange and subsequent hydrolysis. Small, dense LDL are cleared from plasma relatively slowly and tend to accumulate in the circulation where they exert their atherogenic effects.

As an extra, smaller, denser LDL particles bind less to their receptors which increases plasma residence time and thus oxidation (which is bad). The same is true for HDL. Trigs can interact with these as well by reducing HDL plasma residence time and thus decrease reverse cholesterol transport

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MAD PROPS for the great post and excellent explanation re: small vs large particles ;)
 
Whacked said:
MAD PROPS for the great post and excellent explanation re: small vs large particles ;)
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Thanks :D :D

Us low carbers tend to be at lower risk. Generally speaking, if you go for foods that have low human interference, your diet naturally becomes higher fat lower carb anyway :)
 
"LOW H.I."

Ahhhh spoken like a wise and well-informed disciple of Prof Grant Schofield – aka The Fat Professor, Dr Caryn Zinn – the Whole Food Dietitian

Lol ;)

I concur 100%
 
Eggs, oats, colourful vegies. Less processed foods as poss. and never stop training.

"low human interference".. well that sounds very flashy! I likey. :)
 
Hi Candy. Oats wouldn't necessarily be on our list of "good" food choices .... that said... once a day ain't gonna kill ya.
 
Whacked said:
Hi Candy. Oats wouldn't necessarily be on our list of "good" food choices .... that said... once a day ain't gonna kill ya.
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What is bad about oats?

Especially in this post. Oats are still a doctor recommended option for their soluble fiber
 
Driven2lift said:
What is bad about oats? Especially in this post. Oats are still a doctor recommended option for their soluble fiber
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Use the term "doctor recommended" very lightly .. most Dr's are clueless abt nutrition so whether they recommend it or not means squat.
 
Usfscuba said:
Use the term "doctor recommended" very lightly .. most Dr's are clueless abt nutrition so whether they recommend it or not means squat.
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Ok...
Driven recommended.

Fiber intake helps lower cholesterol. Not drastically but it does. Studied.

Why would anyone say oatmeal is a bad dietary addition..?
 
Driven2lift said:
What is bad about oats?

Especially in this post. Oats are still a doctor recommended option for their soluble fiber
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So is the UPSIDE DOWN surgeon general's endorsed food pyramid :)

MOST doctors are morons when it comes to nutrition. Many of us here on this very board could school most MD's in this area.

I don't want to turn this into a debate about how many carbs are good/bad/healthy - that is for the user and his/her phenotype to decide.

That said, oats are not on top of the list of food choices for us low carbers.
 
Driven2lift said:
Ok...
Driven recommended.

Fiber intake helps lower cholesterol. Not drastically but it does. Studied.

Why would anyone say oatmeal is a bad dietary addition..?
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Bad is a very concrete term - but I don't rate Oats (or any grains) due to the phytic acid content (binds to minerals which inhibit absorption) - in my book, no matter how nutritious a food is, the amount of phytic acid can actually take away from its nutritional value (despite people unknowingly not mentioning this fact).

Oats do help lower cholesterol, but they also contain 66g (roughly) of CHO per 100g, making them a hefty carb solution to a problem that could be solved with vegetables. When we also take into consideration daily CHO intake and triglyceride interaction (particularly in those who are overweight), it is again a hefty CHO load to provide fiber which can adequately be provided from other sources.
 
If you eat low carb sure oats are a bad option

In an average diet, would you prefer sugars or processed carbs over oats?

For the average American oats are a great addition.


And again this was about cholesterol, which oats assist with.
If someone is able to eat veggies and protein all day sure go for it.
 
kisaj said:
Not me, I love them and as someone that gets regular labs, they are good for me.
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You can most definitely make them fit into a healthy lifestyle. I just never consider them an ideal food choice. But as with all things food, whether or not they are good depends on who you talk to.
 
Driven2lift said:
If you eat low carb sure oats are a bad option

In an average diet, would you prefer sugars or processed carbs over oats?

For the average American oats are a great addition.


And again this was about cholesterol, which oats assist with.
If someone is able to eat veggies and protein all day sure go for it.
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Interesting you say this as this text: Invalid Link Removed) found that people mindlessly eating better, actually ate worse (or just as bad) when they included oatmeal. Not surprising as oatmeal is bland so people tend to overdo the sugar to mask it ;)

Its not really relevant as you can make any food bad. But it is interesting how people mindlessly eat better, without considering the extra they put on

But I do agree that if someone is used to fruity pebbles, oatmeal is a better choice than what they're currently eating.
 
Jiigzz said:
Interesting you say this as this text: Invalid Link Removed) found that people mindlessly eating better, actually ate worse (or just as bad) when they included oatmeal. Not surprising as oatmeal is bland so people tend to overdo the sugar to mask it ;) Its not really relevant as you can make any food bad. But it is interesting how people mindlessly eat better, without considering the extra they put on But I do agree that if someone is used to fruity pebbles, oatmeal is a better choice than what they're currently eating.
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Lol as a dietary choice over other common carbs, as in the context I had it

I hear you though.
Like the bulletproof coffee lol
Drink it in the morning ON TOP if your daily cals to lose weight
That makes sense...
 
Jiigzz said:
You can most definitely make them fit into a healthy lifestyle. I just never consider them an ideal food choice. But as with all things food, whether or not they are good depends on who you talk to.
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Absolutely. They are just a part of my diet and they are one of my defaults when I am craving something filling, but can make sweet.
 
Driven2lift said:
Lol as a dietary choice over other common carbs, as in the context I had it

I hear you though.
Like the bulletproof coffee lol
Drink it in the morning ON TOP if your daily cals to lose weight
That makes sense...
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Exactly!

I avoid grains now because of a lot of research (Jason Cholewa covers good info on his website about wholegrains) and heavy carb foods in general due to my stance
 
Well I can't say I like the low carb diet or keto diet even. it made me sick! I like moderation :)

For breakfast I have SOME oats and it keep me full really good. so for me it works much better than bread or anything wheat because of my gluten intolerance.
well Its probably better if I ate like a potato or rice instead. lol but thats not how I roll..
 
candyswag said:
Well I can't say I like the low carb diet or keto diet even. it made me sick! I like moderation :)

For breakfast I have SOME oats and it keep me full really good. so for me it works much better than bread or anything wheat because of my gluten intolerance.
well Its probably better if I ate like a potato or rice instead. lol but thats not how I roll..
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Scrambled eggs mixed in some rice and covered in hot sauce is where it's at man
 
Apple mixed with eggs and hotsauce ... :/

Doesn't sound too appatizing.
 
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