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Gettin Hot in Hur - Epitome

GNO

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Thanks to dsade Geoforce taman6886 for picking me to log Epitome, the new stim-free fat burner from Evomuse. You can check out the write-up here: Invalid Link Removed

About me:
I'm 31 years old, 5'7" and starting the log at about 154lbs. I bulked from about 142lbs to 156lbs from Sep 2014 to the end of Feb. I've been cutting for a month and am down about 2-2.5lbs.

I'm currently consuming ~1850cals per day based on activity level. I have a desk job and don't really move around too much at work. Diet is IFYM with one cheat meal a week typically on Friday or Saturday night.

I workout 5-6 days a week (strength training) and cardio on 3-4 of those days (2 LISS, 2 HIIT).

Weekday schedule:
6 am - 1 cap Epitome
8 am - 1st Meal (500-600 cals)
11 am - 1 cap Epitome
12 pm - 2nd Meal (500-600 cals)
5 pm - Workout (Intra-workout carbs)
8 pm - 3rd Meal (600-800 cals)

Weekend Schedule
8 am - Workout (Intra-carbs)
11 am - 1st Meal (600-800 cals)
1 pm - 1 cap Epitome
4 pm - 2nd Meal (500-600 cals)
6 pm - 1 cap Epitome
8 pm - 3rd Meal (500-600 cals)
 
I'm starting a little above 12%bf, my best guesstimate is around 13%.
The pic below isn't the greatest and I've been bloaty the past few days which I think is because I've been using a blend with egg protein. Egg whites typically bloat me.

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Excited to see how this treats you. Glad to see this being tested by someone who has a system w/ their diet and has an idea of what things do to them, as well as cutting/gaining slow and steady.
 
Day 1 - Being a Monday I dosed at 6am and noon and didn't feel anything today (no appetite suppression or increased body heat, etc). I did have a mild headache for a short time in the mid-afternoon. Dsade suggested I increase water intake which makes sense now that I think about it because I didn't drink much in the pm due to a meeting but I did drink a lot of afterwards (pre/intra/post- and it went away.
I took a non-stim pre-wo today and started getting a sleepy on the drive from work to the gym (45mins) but great energy on the gym, not sure if that has anything to do with epitome but I'll monitor it.
 
GNO said:
Sorry, It should be fixed now.
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Image is a little wonky on my phone but I'm guessing a but over 12%

Probably will see a nice amount of recomp through this log
 
Driven2lift said:
Image is a little wonky on my phone but I'm guessing a but over 12%

Probably will see a nice amount of recomp through this log
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I think it might be the pic itself, will try for a better one in a week or two.

I was thinking 13% and was hoping I wasn't being too generous :)
 
Let the fat burning commence and bring on the single digit bodyfat.
 
i did not notice anything from day 2 doses. i did not experience any headaches with normal (ie. high) water intake. No appetite suppression yet. Perhaps some increased sweating during cardio.
 
I took a rest day yesterday and dosed at noon and 6pm. Maybe some mild appetite suppression but nothing too extreme. I was satisfied but not full, with my dinner of 4oz salmon, 6 oz broccoli and a cup of mashed sweet potatoes and a protein shake.
The only noticeable effect has been increased urination. The amount of trips to the bathroom has remained constant but longer trips lol. It is especially evident overnight.
 
GNO said:
I took a rest day yesterday and dosed at noon and 6pm. Maybe some mild appetite suppression but nothing too extreme. I was satisfied but not full, with my dinner of 4oz salmon, 6 oz broccoli and a cup of mashed sweet potatoes and a protein shake.
The only noticeable effect has been increased urination. The amount of trips to the bathroom has remained constant but longer trips lol. It is especially evident overnight.
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You've also upped your water intake though, correct? I mean, it's gotta go somewhere :)
 
Hyde said:
You've also upped your water intake though, correct? I mean, it's gotta go somewhere :)
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Not really, it was more of a coincidence that first day I drank less for a couple of hours in-between doses because I went to a meeting and forgot my water bottle.
 
The few days prior to starting Epitome and the first two days my appetite had been raging at night (post-workout) as I clamped down on my diet.
For the past two nights I have noticed reduced appetite while eating moderate sized meals. I am not having trouble getting food/shakes down like others have reported but cravings are reduced.

Starting to get excited in Hur.
 
GNO said:
The few days prior to starting Epitome and the first two days my appetite had been raging at night (post-workout) as I clamped down on my diet.
For the past two nights I have noticed reduced appetite while eating moderate sized meals. I am not having trouble getting food/shakes down like others have reported but cravings are reduced.

Starting to get excited in Hur.
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I have had the same/similar response with a few episodes of being unable to consume what I usually would.. Nice input, thanks.
 
taman6886 said:
I have had the same/similar response with a few episodes of being unable to consume what I usually would.. Nice input, thanks.
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How long have you been on it?
 
My observation on day 3 of increased urination was a really a mild uptick. There is no mistaking it now ... I went to hot yoga yesterday which depletes most of the water from my body and the first 4-5 hours my body is just soaking it back in. Not yesterday, I was going to the bathroom every 45 minutes and my water intake was normal. I'm waking up more at night to the point its affecting the amount of sleep I'm getting lol.
 
It's been a week now on epitome and no real increase in body temp or appetite suppression which is kind of disappointing since limiting myself on a cutting phase is always a struggle. Even on a cheat meal last night no suppression. The really only noticeable effect has been leaning out a bit and increased urination. However, the weird part is that yesterday it really picked up (going every ~30-45 minutes) but today it was back to normal. dsade any thoughts as to why that might be? I did have a re-feed/cheat meal last night so that could have played a part.
 
Well I'm glad you're seeing some leaning out effects, hoping it is helping you get towards single digits. I do notice some warming, but it isn't every single time. I have no idea about the increased urination frequency. I consume tons of water (always have) so I go a lot anyways. So far Epitome hasn't had much of an effect on me there, but I know with some others it has. I don't get a big appetite suppression effect, but find myself achieving satiety much quicker and my notoriously bad sweet tooth has been pretty well curbed.

Good observations and thanks again for logging for us :) I'm sure Matt might have a better answer to your question as I have no idea!
 
Geoforce said:
Well I'm glad you're seeing some leaning out effects, hoping it is helping you get towards single digits. I do notice some warming, but it isn't every single time. I have no idea about the increased urination frequency. I consume tons of water (always have) so I go a lot anyways. So far Epitome hasn't had much of an effect on me there, but I know with some others it has. I don't get a big appetite suppression effect, but find myself achieving satiety much quicker and my notoriously bad sweet tooth has been pretty well curbed.

Good observations and thanks again for logging for us :) I'm sure Matt might have a better answer to your question as I have no idea!
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If all I get is fat loss I'm okay with that just have to exercise more self-discipline ;)
 
It seems I have been a little bit slower than most to start seeing effects from Epitome than some others.
But Epitome is starting to make a move, like a horny teen at a cheesy horror movie. I'm experiencing increased urination on some days where other days are closer to normal. Modest weight decrease so far but noticeable leaning out effect in the mirror. Slight increase to the libido too, not sure if that was intended or not - dsade
 
Fuk! I just realized I forgot my pill case at home so no Epitome today
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dsade
If I workout at 5-6pm would it be ok to take one cap or even two before bed (~1-2 hours post workout?
 
^^^ I ended up taking one cap before bed on Wednesday night. I had a headache most of the night and slept like crap.
 
Geoforce said:
Sorry to hear that :(
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It's all good, my fault for forgetting the caps at home when I left for work. It's a 45 min drive so wasn't going back lol.

I'm going to post another pic on Sunday.
 
Sounds great. Hope you are seeing some progress!
 
i'm down ~1.5 lbs this week which has been really hard. As stated above I haven't experienced any appetite suppression on epitome which is in line with some other lean users. I can usually control myself but the last meal of the day (typically post workout) I become ravenous. Even a cheat meal does nothing.

I'm on day 13 and it seems like my hunger is extending to earlier in the day too.
 
Day 14 pic

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Where do you guys think I'm at for bf%?
 
I almost forgot about epitome since I have not observed any reaction to my doses in the past week (no heat, little affect on appetite, etc). I am relatively the same on the scale too.
However, my pants seem looser and my abs are popping out a bit more.
 
I'm down about .5lb this week.

My weight is swinging quite a bit though which is making it hard to track (~6lbs). I am noticing my pants are a bit looser. Not as noticeable in the mirror compared to the previous week.

I'm going to drop cals by 50-100.
 
GNO said:
I'm down about .5lb this week.

My weight is swinging quite a bit though which is making it hard to track (~6lbs). I am noticing my pants are a bit looser. Not as noticeable in the mirror compared to the previous week.

I'm going to drop cals by 50-100.
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Sounds like some pretty nice results.
 
Finished up my 4 week run on Thursday. I felt I stagnated in the last week. No weight loss. My appetite continued to increase and I lost the battle a couple of times to stay within my macros. I also felt like my cheat meal was bordering on a binge meal. My appetite has normalized somewhat since I finished.

Final Review:
As noted during my log I did not experience any increase in body temperature as others have. I did have periods of increased urination but it was sporadic. The most noticeable effect was increased appetite which is a problem for me in the base case. I'm a former chubby kid and I typically don't have a problem gaining.

I did lose about 3 lbs during the 4 weeks, but I was dieting as well so Im not sure I can attribute that all to epitome. However, my pants feel much looser than I would expect from 3 lbs so Epitome could have helped with that recomp. Overall I was slightly disappointed as other users, most at higher bf%, were getting their appetite crushed. I'll probably try epitome again when I am much closer to 10% bf.

Final pic:
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GNO said:
Finished up my 4 week run on Thursday. I felt I stagnated in the last week. No weight loss. My appetite continued to increase and I lost the battle a couple of times to stay within my macros. I also felt like my cheat meal was bordering on a binge meal. My appetite has normalized somewhat since I finished.

Final Review:
As noted during my log I did not experience any increase in body temperature as others have. I did have periods of increased urination but it was sporadic. The most noticeable effect was increased appetite which is a problem for me in the base case. I'm a former chubby kid and I typically don't have a problem gaining.

I did lose about 3 lbs during the 4 weeks, but I was dieting as well so Im not sure I can attribute that all to epitome. However, my pants feel much looser than I would expect from 3 lbs so Epitome could have helped with that recomp. Overall I was slightly disappointed as other users, most at higher bf%, were getting their appetite crushed. I'll probably try epitome again when I am much closer to 10% bf.

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Thanks for logging this and giving your honest thoughts on your experience! It helps out the community
 
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