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OUT OF THE GAME FOR A WHILE - REC ME A NON PH/PS STACK

Gstyle24 said:
What's up with the dosage of X-gels? I've been reading around that they should just be taken before your workout, but the directions on the bottle says to take it on non-workout days as well.
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dose only on workout days. There's a giant arachadonic acid help guide thread here that has every bit of info you could want in dosing, timing, things to stack, etc.
 
^^ Sounds good. Another question was do these x-gels take the place of creatine? I would think taking creatine and those would be a bit overload to take pre-workout?
 
Gstyle24 said:
^^ Sounds good. Another question was do these x-gels take the place of creatine? I would think taking creatine and those would be a bit overload to take pre-workout?
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Still take creatine

It does not need to be taken pre
 
Gstyle24 said:
^^ Sounds good. Another question was do these x-gels take the place of creatine? I would think taking creatine and those would be a bit overload to take pre-workout?
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Run both. Are you adding emulsifiers and a carnitine source to maximize your xgels?
 
frankz2 said:
Run both. Are you adding emulsifiers and a carnitine source to maximize your xgels?
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No what are those? I suppose I should look up the arachadonic acid help guide thread here.

I am however also doing an erase-pro/anabeta elite stack right now as well.
 
Gstyle24 said:
No what are those? I suppose I should look up the arachadonic acid help guide thread here. I am however also doing an erase-pro/anabeta elite stack right now as well.
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A Carnitine salt and GMS to increase the ARA absorption/effectiveness

As an FYI Ergonine contains both
 
Gstyle24 said:
No what are those? I suppose I should look up the arachadonic acid help guide thread here.

I am however also doing an erase-pro/anabeta elite stack right now as well.
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Looks like driven had you covered on the definitions. I was going to recommended adding Conqu3r pre-workout. Not only does it have the high yield glycerol and ALCAR to aid in emulsification and inhibit thromboxane formation, but they are both present in very high, effective doses to ensure you're really maxing out your run.
 
got my sups in today.

popped 4 x-gels along with my multi, C4 pre, efx createne, jym alpha, and fuq man, this stuff feels amazing. I did bi-tris and i went up 5lbs on everything I did today, and even did extra to burn out my biceps.
 
integlspwr said:
got my sups in today. popped 4 x-gels along with my multi, C4 pre, efx createne, jym alpha, and fuq man, this stuff feels amazing. I did bi-tris and i went up 5lbs on everything I did today, and even did extra to burn out my biceps.
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just wait. X-gels don't really kick in hard until a week or two in... It only gets BETTER

If you're looking for the complimentary items for ara Nutraplanet is having a big sale on SNS stuff so you can pick up some alcar cheap
 
integlspwr said:
got my sups in today. popped 4 x-gels along with my multi, C4 pre, efx createne, jym alpha, and fuq man, this stuff feels amazing. I did bi-tris and i went up 5lbs on everything I did today, and even did extra to burn out my biceps.
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I doubt the increase in weights is already due to any of the supplements.

But ArA will definitely start doing its thing around week 2-3 (other then pumps which can be noticed instantly).

Also, drop the multivitamin pre-workout.
 
kbayne said:
I doubt the increase in weights is already due to any of the supplements. But ArA will definitely start doing its thing around week 2-3 (other then pumps which can be noticed instantly). Also, drop the multivitamin pre-workout.
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didn't even see the multi. Good catch.
 
Swolbraham said:
i always take my mutli with a meal with dietary fat away from training the fat will absorb fat soluble vitamins
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Big this, best way.
You may have even picked this up from me preaching it?

I take all mine with my breakfast because it has the most fats (whole eggs + meats) and I train PM
 
frankz2 said:
Looks like driven had you covered on the definitions. I was going to recommended adding Conqu3r pre-workout. Not only does it have the high yield glycerol and ALCAR to aid in emulsification and inhibit thromboxane formation, but they are both present in very high, effective doses to ensure you're really maxing out your run.
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Well I am using V1tality for the creatine but it sucks.
 
Gstyle24 said:
Well I am using V1tality for the creatine but it sucks.
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can't beat good old creatine mono for price and effect. Nutra has a sale on Sns staples right now too if you're looking
 
frankz2 said:
How so? All feedback helps us grow and improve but it sucks doesn't tell us much.
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Oh I didn't realize you were a rep for it. I've taken a lot of creatine over the years and they've all had some sort of effect with a jolt of energy, focus, and stamina in the gym. I just do not feel any of that with V1tality. After I take it I honestly feel more like going back to sleep than going to the gym. I was taking Noxi-pro prior to this and I had a lot more energy and focus than V1tality. I've been on it more than a month now and still no difference.
 
booneman77 said:
can't beat good old creatine mono for price and effect. Nutra has a sale on Sns staples right now too if you're looking
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Yeah I'll be looking into that. I have another whole tub of V1tality to go through regrettably but I'm thinking about just counting my losses and buying something else because it just doesn't have any effect on me.
 
Gstyle24 said:
Oh I didn't realize you were a rep for it. I've taken a lot of creatine over the years and they've all had some sort of effect with a jolt of energy, focus, and stamina in the gym. I just do not feel any of that with V1tality. After I take it I honestly feel more like going back to sleep than going to the gym. I was taking Noxi-pro prior to this and I had a lot more energy and focus than V1tality. I've been on it more than a month now and still no difference.
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Comparing Vital1ty to preworkouts isn't exactly fair don't ya think? Conqu3r would be the better comparison in that category as Vital1ty functions passively, not acutely.
 
Gstyle24 said:
Yeah I'll be looking into that. I have another whole tub of V1tality to go through regrettably but I'm thinking about just counting my losses and buying something else because it just doesn't have any effect on me.
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I think you're mistaking vitality for a pre workout... Creative alone won't give you any energy or anything like that
 
Gstyle24 said:
Yeah I'll be looking into that. I have another whole tub of V1tality to go through regrettably but I'm thinking about just counting my losses and buying something else because it just doesn't have any effect on me.
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Noxipro is a stimulant based preworkout, which has amp citrate, multiple forms of caffeine, and yohimbine in it, which is why it feels completely different. Vital1ty is not a pre. Have you ever taken creatine outside of a preworkout? Because you won't experience these things with creatine alone. It's comparing apples and oranges.
 
Well.. I am definitely confusing creatine for a pre-workout then :) ... It does say to take 30 minutes prior to working out, but apparently I am definitely confusing the difference between a "pre-workout" and the effects of creatine...
 
Gstyle24 said:
Well.. I am definitely confusing creatine for a pre-workout then :) ... It does say to take 30 minutes prior to working out, but apparently I am definitely confusing the difference between a "pre-workout" and the effects of creatine...
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the timing is due to the fact that uptake of almost anything (supps, nutrients, etc) is enhanced during a workout. Taking supps sprung a workout almost always will get them to the desired place better then taking other times.
 
Get yourself a stimmed pre and use your creatine seperately.

IMO finish up you v1tality then judge from there what you would like to do.

Creatine can be taken anytime of day.
It works by saturation, not acutely.

Maybe try out OL Conqu3r to give them an honest shot.

If you want a different creatine product still look into Ergonine or good old mono
 
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Try that from OL as your pre
 
I'm glad you made this thread.
After seeing all the replies with as always, great info., I stopped down Trevor's store (TGB - I live 1 mile away) and after talking to Trevor about what I'm looking to do...I ended up with this stack.

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coldseed said:
I'm glad you made this thread. After seeing all the replies with as always, great info., I stopped down Trevor's store (TGB - I live 1 mile away) and after talking to Trevor about what I'm looking to do...I ended up with this stack. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116016"/>
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that's money in the bank right there. Good people over at tgb. They know their stuff.
 
coldseed said:
I'm glad you made this thread.
After seeing all the replies with as always, great info., I stopped down Trevor's store (TGB - I live 1 mile away) and after talking to Trevor about what I'm looking to do...I ended up with this stack.

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Good looking stack. X-Gels and Alphamax is one of my favorites. Do you have enough X-Gels to go 50 workout days?
 
question guys,

im on that xgel + abe stack right now into my first couple of days. tomorrow (sunday) is my off day, I know i dont take the xgel, but do i take the ABE still and also the F95 still?

Thanks guys!
 
integlspwr said:
question guys, im on that xgel + abe stack right now into my first couple of days. tomorrow (sunday) is my off day, I know i dont take the xgel, but do i take the ABE still and also the F95 still? Thanks guys!
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Yes, continue dosing the ABE how you have been or go 1/1/1/1 throughout the day.

Dose F95 as well.
 
s.hiti forgot to take my two at dinner tonight. is it still ok and wont mess me up if i forget to take it ?

edit: i just took it just 20mins ago.
 
coldseed said:
I'm glad you made this thread.
After seeing all the replies with as always, great info., I stopped down Trevor's store (TGB - I live 1 mile away) and after talking to Trevor about what I'm looking to do...I ended up with this stack.

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more info about this stack ?
 
integlspwr said:
make sense, I'll go ahead and do that after a few cycles of the Xgels / ABE / Mag stack.

Thanks again everyone!
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Gonna be a sick stack!
 
integlspwr said:
im doing 8 weeks total first 4 weeks is with ABE then last 4 is Mag.. All 8 weeks is with X-gels and F95.
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that's a monster stack! You'll be seeing some serious results with that line up
 
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