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GreenMachineX said:
I know, but with a current test level of 180, surely 2 pumps will feel better than I do now, right?
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Yes, because you will have your 180 plus what the 2 pumps puts in you. So, you probably will be looking at 180 + about 300 = 480 of total test which is a big jump from 180. You should start noticing at least a boost in energy in the next few days. Then, after a month or so you will loose your endogenous test level of 180 so your numbers will drop some. Thats when you will need to up your pump dosage. Just make sure to get your bloodwork done regularly to monitor your numbers.
 
ELROCK said:
Yes, because you will have your 180 plus what the 2 pumps puts in you. So, you probably will be looking at 180 + about 300 = 480 of total test which is a big jump from 180. You should start noticing at least a boost in energy in the next few days. Then, after a month or so you will loose your endogenous test level of 180 so your numbers will drop some. Thats when you will need to up your pump dosage. Just make sure to get your bloodwork done regularly to monitor your numbers.
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Gotcha. Thanks man.
 
My doctor is saying I should have follow up labwork 6-8 weeks after starting androgel; is that too long? Should it be sooner?
 
GreenMachineX said:
My doctor is saying I should have follow up labwork 6-8 weeks after starting androgel; is that too long? Should it be sooner?
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It can take even up to 3 months for levels to stabilize
6-8 weeks is standard
 
ELROCK said:
Yes, because you will have your 180 plus what the 2 pumps puts in you. So, you probably will be looking at 180 + about 300 = 480 of total test which is a big jump from 180. You should start noticing at least a boost in energy in the next few days. Then, after a month or so you will loose your endogenous test level of 180 so your numbers will drop some. Thats when you will need to up your pump dosage. Just make sure to get your bloodwork done regularly to monitor your numbers.
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You were right. By the end of the first week, I noticed increased energy and less morning aches and pains (I'm 31 by the way). But every morning I used to hobble in pain (my feet especially) to the bathroom for my morning wizz and for about 2 or so weeks there, I felt great upon waking. As of yesterday, the aches and pains are back. My libido's dropped and I'm getting irritable again. I still have to wait two more weeks before getting blood drawn again though. Dammit.
 
GreenMachineX said:
You were right. By the end of the first week, I noticed increased energy and less morning aches and pains (I'm 31 by the way). But every morning I used to hobble in pain (my feet especially) to the bathroom for my morning wizz and for about 2 or so weeks there, I felt great upon waking. As of yesterday, the aches and pains are back. My libido's dropped and I'm getting irritable again. I still have to wait two more weeks before getting blood drawn again though. Dammit.
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Yup, your endogenous testosterone levels have now bottomed out. So, you will need to double up your T gel dose now. I would suggest not starting the Phlojel ultra until you have stabilized your T levels. Then when you incorporate it you can bring your T levels up an additional 200 or so points. Keep us updated bro. Btw I am only 31 as well.
 
ELROCK said:
Yup, your endogenous testosterone levels have now bottomed out. So, you will need to double up your T gel dose now. I would suggest not starting the Phlojel ultra until you have stabilized your T levels. Then when you incorporate it you can bring your T levels up an additional 200 or so points. Keep us updated bro. Btw I am only 31 as well.
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Gotcha. I'll wait to start the phlogel. Have you noticed better gains or improved body composition since optimizing your test levels, by the way?
 
GreenMachineX said:
Gotcha. I'll wait to start the phlogel. Have you noticed better gains or improved body composition since optimizing your test levels, by the way?
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Yes, recomping ability has increased. I have always been fit, but I do feel it is a bit easier to see progress. Nothing drastic though so dont expect too much.
 
ELROCK said:
Yes, recomping ability has increased. I have always been fit, but I do feel it is a bit easier to see progress. Nothing drastic though so dont expect too much.
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Gotcha. Well, I've always been strong, but have always had a bit more trouble with body composition so I'm glad to hear it'll help, even if just a little.
 
Yes, that was one of my issues. I had a general lack of motivation both physically and mentally and just felt sluggish a lot. I could fight through it, but it took a lot of will power and energy to not just want to skip the gym, go do other physical activities, or feel social. Then it would take awhile to recover. None of this just happened overnight, I was dealing with it for a couple years, but it was so gradual that I didn't realize it until I was on TRT and looked back on it. It seemed like I was just kind of "down" and I chased it with OTC supplements trying to get the vigor back.
 
Right. I didn't realize how much of a problem it was until this experience, particularly the past few days when the brain fog and sluggishness returned. But I'm the same way with the supplements...taking 4 Norcodrene daily, 4 caps of MacaPro, and preworkouts also. During that little blip of feeling good, I didn't need the extra cap of Norcodrene or the preworkouts. So, I'm looking forward to getting this thing right.
 
It isn't something that lasts a few days or weeks, though. Everyone has periods of sluggishness, especially in the winter. Keep track of it and how long it lasts and how bad it gets.
 
kisaj said:
Yes, that was one of my issues. I had a general lack of motivation both physically and mentally and just felt sluggish a lot. I could fight through it, but it took a lot of will power and energy to not just want to skip the gym, go do other physical activities, or feel social. Then it would take awhile to recover. None of this just happened overnight, I was dealing with it for a couple years, but it was so gradual that I didn't realize it until I was on TRT and looked back on it. It seemed like I was just kind of "down" and I chased it with OTC supplements trying to get the vigor back.
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Same here 100%.
 
Had another blood test done; total test was up to 290 on 2 pumps. Now up to 3 pumps and retesting in a month. I tried to talk him into 4 pumps but he's concerned with hematocrit and hemoglobin going too high.
 
oldschoolbean said:
Donate blood the week before a test! Drink plenty of water all the time especially 4 to 5 days before you have your next labs done
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Good call. I'm going to try to get labs done sooner than a month too. From what I've gathered, 2 weeks is long enough to see stabilized blood levels on topicals (from Dr. Crisler's presentation on TRT). But how do I get my doctor on the same page...lol
 
Just donated blood. Good thing I did because my hemoglobin was at 17.3 or something. Getting labs drawn in a couple days so we'll see what 3 pumps is doing for me.

Is there any chance donating blood 2 days prior falsely elevated my T results?
 
So 3 pumps has me at 534 total T and HCT 45. Doctor wants to wait to physical appointment on April 28th before adjusting anything.
 
I use Androgel 1.62, 2 pumps on each Arm. I have a tattoo on one of my arms. Will rubbing in the Androgel over a tattoo make any difference?
 
Tattoo. I Don't think that would cause any problems! I was on the gel before but it would not soak into my skin all the way. I would take a shower the next morning before rubbing the new gel on and it would start lifting up off my skin and run down my arm in the shower or if I would sweat..... My blood test said I was still low. I'm on the shot now. Good luck
 
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