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IM Trest Junkies here!!:)

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RickyBlobby said:
IDK. I think it may be blood pressure related though, because when I wake up my breathing feels labored and shallow. It's a strange sensation.
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This same thing happened to me. I'd wake up, quite suddenly, feeling like I'd forgotten to breathe for the last minute or so. Never resulted in anything worrisome, though. It only took a minute or two until I was good to go. Of course, I was also wide awake at 0200 so **** that just a little bit.
 
Wilko said:
This same thing happened to me. I'd wake up, quite suddenly, feeling like I'd forgotten to breathe for the last minute or so. Never resulted in anything worrisome, though. It only took a minute or two until I was good to go. Of course, I was also wide awake at 0200 so **** that just a little bit.
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Sleep apnea?
 
Sounds like it, doesnt it? But only whilst on. Of course for entirety of that cycle my RHR was like 90 so who knows.
 
booneman77 said:
is it only when you try to take a deep breath? I had an odd sensation for a couple weeks awhile back where when I woke up in the morning and would take a deep breath it would almost tickle/choke me and make me want to like cough. Very odd. Not sure it was even during my cycle but it was def close.
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Not quite like that. More like anxiety, like I was breathing at the top of my lungs, with my lungs almost full but couldn't expel all the air. I have to get up, stand at my bathroom sink for 30 minutes or so until I feel I can go back to sleep. It's like standing makes it better.

Wilko said:
This same thing happened to me. I'd wake up, quite suddenly, feeling like I'd forgotten to breathe for the last minute or so. Never resulted in anything worrisome, though. It only took a minute or two until I was good to go. Of course, I was also wide awake at 0200 so **** that just a little bit.
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Anxiety?

BigBlackGuy said:
Sleep apnea?
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Never happened when I wasn't taking trest..?
 
tyga tyga said:
Are you using dec or ace?

I know deca is giving people insomnia and sleep issues.
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I need to comment here.

I believe the acetate version has benefits of better mood, libido and sleep over the Deca version. I believe the half-life is way too long that the hormone provides too much activity 24/7 to be remotely close to mimicking Test.

While I do think the Decanoate version could be great for overall mass, the insomnia is inevitable on it. I experienced this with anything past 250-300mg/wk.

25mg/day of the Acetate never bothered me one bit and my sex drive was up. Perhaps the half-life was something more natural, producing more natural estrogen levels and such and at night the stuff would basically wash out of the system. I woke up every morning will full testicles as if not running anything. At this dose, it felt a lot like Tren, IMO. Hot flashes on the regular, sweaty at night but slept thru it, good energy, mood and aggression. Other than estrogen conversion, everything was pretty normal. Did this for 8 weeks without any problems. Ran Formestane @ 125mg/day.
 
fueledpassion said:
I need to comment here.

I believe the acetate version has benefits of better mood, libido and sleep over the Deca version. I believe the half-life is way too long that the hormone provides too much activity 24/7 to be remotely close to mimicking Test.

While I do think the Decanoate version could be great for overall mass, the insomnia is inevitable on it. I experienced this with anything past 250-300mg/wk.

25mg/day of the Acetate never bothered me one bit and my sex drive was up. Perhaps the half-life was something more natural, producing more natural estrogen levels and such and at night the stuff would basically wash out of the system. I woke up every morning will full testicles as if not running anything. At this dose, it felt a lot like Tren, IMO. Hot flashes on the regular, sweaty at night but slept thru it, good energy, mood and aggression. Other than estrogen conversion, everything was pretty normal. Did this for 8 weeks without any problems. Ran Formestane @ 125mg/day.
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Need Prop for that extra time in the system and yet continue to dose ED. I feel like Prop always is a bit better. And I'm with you on the Deca. Nipple sensitivity on deca at lower dose that with Ace and no problems with ace. I feel like its the reason you mentioned. Deca just doesn't ever let blood levels of trest to drop ever. With ace you'll possibly have a swoop and a peak in 25 hours time alllowing some of these things to not transpire
 
I think he's trying to get his poast count up
 
Buzz Killington here, just dropped in to suggest deleting this thread.

It's existence and other posts like it do nothing but draw unneeded attention to the situation.

If for some reason a certain research company should cross paths with LEO's, I could easily foresee things going down like this:

1. For one reason or another, a certain company gets raided.
2. LEO's obtain customer list, singling out those making large purchases.
3. Over-zealous D.A. sees opportunity for career making case, not caring whose lives he ruins to do it.
4. D.A. proceeds to involve D.H.S. due to international nature of case
5. Aforementioned customers give testimony against research company in order to avoid sentencing.
6. Lots of pain and hardship all around.

This may just be over-analysis of the situation, so take it with a grain of salt.
I would just would hate to see anymore good people have their lives ruined.
 
tinytony said:
Need Prop for that extra time in the system and yet continue to dose ED. I feel like Prop always is a bit better. And I'm with you on the Deca. Nipple sensitivity on deca at lower dose that with Ace and no problems with ace. I feel like its the reason you mentioned. Deca just doesn't ever let blood levels of trest to drop ever. With ace you'll possibly have a swoop and a peak in 25 hours time alllowing some of these things to not transpire
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I cannot control the titty sensitivity on deca. It doesn't matter if it's 300mg or 600mg. I can't even get it under control with letro. I will definitely be researching with acetate to see if things are different. At this point, my monkey is looking forward to getting off of this stuff.
 
Jared said:
I cannot control the titty sensitivity on deca. It doesn't matter if it's 300mg or 600mg. I can't even get it under control with letro. I will definitely be researching with acetate to see if things are different. At this point, my monkey is looking forward to getting off of this stuff.
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this was suggested earlier but are you running any prolactin control? I had the same issue on ace when I ran it and this was proposed to me. I wasn't thinking about it but it is a 19nor
 
That thought had crossed my mind. I had not seen a lot of feedback on prolactin issues, but it is a definite possibility. I'm not lactating yet. Been there before. I'm just going to cut it short and run ace another time.
 
If it was estered then I'd just brew it
But it's suspension and injecting pre-workout is a pain in the ass, so is brewing the stuff.

I know there is some activity because my sweat is smelling different. I always notice different hormones give a different scent especially my bedsheets
Yeah, that is a retarded way to tell if a hormone is working, I know
 
AlexPowell said:
I have around a gram of trestolone base that was shipped to me buy mistake along with other ****
What am I supposed to do with it? Anyone know of a good recipe to brew it?

Is it small enough molecule for insufflation? I know testosterone base and dianabol both are
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Make some transdermal, ideally with Salvo (the old IL product which is now being re-released by I forget what company)
 
hewhoisripped said:
Make some transdermal, ideally with Salvo (the old IL product which is now being re-released by I forget what company)
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Not a bad idea, cheers. What is the absorption rate?
 
tyga tyga said:
Anyone tried subq injects with their trest yet?

Would this be a good cycle;

Trest ace- 25mg 8 weeks
OL the one - first 4 weeks 100mg
Formestane -50mg (am) ed for 8 weeks
Adex- 0.5mg ed (pm) for 8 weeks
Prami -0.5mg ed (if needed)

PCT
Triptorelin 100mcg
Nolva- 40/40/20/20/10
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

I really wanna pull the trigger and try this lol
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i'm going into the 3rd week of trest ace, 25mg eod subq. up 10 lbs and feel good. virtually no pip and no sides except waking up every 2 hrs to p1ss and sleep isn't as good as normal. i believe the estro problems can be minimized or eliminated with low dosing. i'm gyno proned and haven't had any symptoms yet. no ai or serm either. imo 100mg a week of trest is, better than or equal to, 400mg of test. the compound feels similar to test, more so than any other aas i've tried. its definitely good. i'm lookin better than ever. gonna stay at this dose for a few weeks and see what it will really do.
btw, this is my first time with subq and i'm liking it. dont think i'll ever IM again.
 
RickyBlobby said:
IDK. I think it may be blood pressure related though, because when I wake up my breathing feels labored and shallow. It's a strange sensation.
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testosterone is known to cause or worsen sleep apnea. i guess trest could too, idk.
high hematocrit can cause difficulty breathing while lying down, although i dont think that could happen this quickly. usually takes a few weeks for hematocrit to increase to the point of causing symptoms.
it could be dopamine related. similiar to restless leg syndrome. some aas effect dopamine. just a thought.
 
protrester said:
testosterone is known to cause or worsen sleep apnea. i guess trest could too, idk.
high hematocrit can cause difficulty breathing while lying down, although i dont think that could happen this quickly. usually takes a few weeks for hematocrit to increase to the point of causing symptoms.
it could be dopamine related. similiar to restless leg syndrome. some aas effect dopamine. just a thought.
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I wonder what cabergoline would do
 
AlexPowell said:
I have around a gram of trestolone base that was shipped to me buy mistake along with other ****
What am I supposed to do with it? Anyone know of a good recipe to brew it?

Is it small enough molecule for insufflation? I know testosterone base and dianabol both are
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i'd brew it in ethyl oleate and pin it subq. once a day would be plenty.
there is some good info on basskilleronline about brewing. i cant post links yet

btw, when i read your posts last year about pinning test subq, i thought it was stupid, but hey, its the way to go now that i've tried it. hell of alot better than shoving a damn nail in your @ss. lol
 
protrester said:
i'd brew it in ethyl oleate and pin it subq. once a day would be plenty.
there is some good info on basskilleronline about brewing. i cant post links yet

btw, when i read your posts last year about pinning test subq, i thought it was stupid, but hey, its the way to go now that i've tried it. hell of alot better than shoving a damn nail in your @ss. lol
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Yeah I like sub-q, it's good if you're pinning a ml or less. Always good to keep scar tissue down
 
Ive been looking for info on pinning sub q , got some trest ace and figured that pinning every day would be a pain in the arse, literally lol. My worry is does it work the same as im, meaning does as much of the hormone get in your system.
 
Thanks.

I'm going to rotate though. Pin my quads, delts and stomach (sub-q)
 
Just thinking out loud here, but I am curious how the absorption rates would vary with subq vs IM. I imagine on a long ester it would be irrelevant once blood levels are saturated. But how about on a short ester like trest ace? There may be peaks and valleys if you pin subq day 1 and IM day 2. Any thoughts?
 
Grayson said:
From peptide use I'll tell you, the spots add up quick.
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This I know lol I've used GHRPs and GHRH, MGF and a few others in the past.
peter01 said:
Just thinking out loud here, but I am curious how the absorption rates would vary with subq vs IM. I imagine on a long ester it would be irrelevant once blood levels are saturated. But how about on a short ester like trest ace? There may be peaks and valleys if you pin subq day 1 and IM day 2. Any thoughts?
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hmm.. You may very well be right here Pete.
 
brandon1012 said:
What sup guys I just ordered 3 vials of trest ace...after reading the last few posts about using sub-q..can you really inject sub q instead of IM? I was originally going to IM but **** subq ED would make my test monkey's life so much easier lol..does the esters/compound work just the same as IM? Any opinions here?
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