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IM Trest Junkies here!!:)

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The Engineer said:
Guys, don't help him. It's fun and all, but this individual needs to find the time to research (just like we all did). Talking about the concept of toggling would escape such an individual. There are no easy answers in life.
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Yeah you never messaged me back on that book you were taking about? It was a good read but I forget the name as I wanted to experiment a bit but included that protocol I it
 
I don't understand anything you guys are saying. =( all I know is when I take 750 of test combined with swiss rolls cup o noodles and peanut butter and honey sandwiches I blow da fawk up

Can't forget spam big boyz eat spam
 
The Engineer said:
Guys, don't help him. It's fun and all, but this individual needs to find the time to research (just like we all did).

Talking about the concept of toggling would escape such an individual. There are no easy answers in life.
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"The concept of toggling would escape such an individual"?? That was completely uncalled for and condescending.

And you have the nerve to post things like that while representing Iron Forged Nutrition lol? Looks like you are the one who's not too bright

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Matthersby said:
I wanna talk about trest more.
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I have 300mg of trest d and 200mg of ace in my blood this week combined with 120mcg. Of clen and 20mg of nolv a day I'm looking alot leaner strength going up even though I'm on keto trest is a wonderful thing
 
fueledpassion said:
Its tough.
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So you mentioned the 50/50 anabolic/androgenic ratio of the t/d (vs IM's 3:1 or better)....do you know why that would be? I had no idea compounds changed based on application method *srs* Obviously some ways will be better absorbed, but why does it become so much more androgenic when applied t/d?
 
Hyde said:
So you mentioned the 50/50 anabolic/androgenic ratio of the t/d (vs IM's 3:1 or better)....do you know why that would be? I had no idea compounds changed based on application method *srs* Obviously some ways will be better absorbed, but why does it become so much more androgenic when applied t/d?
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U mean applied IM? IM is more bio available. I'm not 100% sure, but now that u ask, I'll go find out.
 
tinytony said:
What you find out? Cu I'm having a hard time to hookin up on this theory
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We both may be wrong. I'm gonna keep digging but there are only two good studies of this drug that I have found so far. One on monkeys and another on humans.

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This suggests 10X anabolism, and although it doesn't reference the study, I know from reading earlier that it is referring to the ape study. It also suggests 4X androgenic potency as compared to test.
 
fueledpassion said:
We both may be wrong. I'm gonna keep digging but there are only two good studies of this drug that I have found so far. One on monkeys and another on humans.

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This suggests 10X anabolism, and although it doesn't reference the study, I know from reading earlier that it is referring to the ape study. It also suggests 4X androgenic potency as compared to test.
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Nice. Thanks! I'll read. Keep articles on Trest coming. This goes out to everyone. Let's collect all the info we can!
 
tinytony said:
Nice. Thanks! I'll read. Keep articles on Trest coming. This goes out to everyone. Let's collect all the info we can!
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I've got three other links on my thread too. None of the stuff is gospel though because so little real world experience exists.

Quite honestly, we (those of us here on AM) could very well have been one of the first thousand people to ever research with it. Same could be said about Desoxy, which is even more elusive.
 
Well all I know us both chest days after starting my trest have resulted in increase poundage and reps
 
Guys, I am in no way affiliated to trest companies or anything, but PLEASE keep the discussion away from what you do with trest or how you administer it to you petri dishes. We can all guess what's going on, no need to state the obvious.
 
hewhoisripped said:
Guys, I am in no way affiliated to trest companies or anything, but PLEASE keep the discussion away from what you do with trest or how you administer it to you petri dishes. We can all guess what's going on, no need to state the obvious.
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um why? That's the entire point of this forum section.
 
booneman77 said:
um why? That's the entire point of this forum section.
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So a prohormone ban just went through. A certain compound wasn't included. Now it's sold as a research chemical. And you want to ask why you shouldn't mention how to administer it to humans?

Pure Oils products are for research purposes only and not for human consumption.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
So a prohormone ban just went through. A certain compound wasn't included. Now it's sold as a research chemical. And you want to ask why you shouldn't mention how to administer it to humans?

Pure Oils products are for research purposes only and not for human consumption.
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Aha, now we're following u. I'm in agreement here. Makes total sense. In fact, I will delete my old thread as well.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
So a prohormone ban just went through. A certain compound wasn't included. Now it's sold as a research chemical. And you want to ask why you shouldn't mention how to administer it to humans? Pure Oils products are for research purposes only and not for human consumption.
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you really think they're going to be looking around and find this exact thread among the thousands of threads on all the forums and this will be the one that tips the scale? That's just silly. There's a million other places that a million other people will do the exact same thing. This one thread won't draw the governments attention. Plus, if they haven't already begun to look at research chems then they're dumber then we all think.
 
booneman77 said:
you really think they're going to be looking around and find this exact thread among the thousands of threads on all the forums and this will be the one that tips the scale? That's just silly. There's a million other places that a million other people will do the exact same thing. This one thread won't draw the governments attention. Plus, if they haven't already begun to look at research chems then they're dumber then we all think.
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And they'd have to be pretty dumb for that to be the case....
 
booneman77 said:
you really think they're going to be looking around and find this exact thread among the thousands of threads on all the forums and this will be the one that tips the scale? That's just silly. There's a million other places that a million other people will do the exact same thing. This one thread won't draw the governments attention. Plus, if they haven't already begun to look at research chems then they're dumber then we all think.
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It won't be one thread but like you said if there is a ton of other threads and only one company has a certain version it could be enuff to put heat on that company and then we all loose
 
mixedup said:
Asking for sides two strong 19nors..that's my opinion I had to choose and I chose trest
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Haha yeah I figured. I know they are both 19 nor but was curious if anyone had tried them with no issues or possible issues. All this talk about trest deca is getting me itchy
 
I love this trest D. No matter how many sets I do I never get sore. I'm horny like I'm back in my 20's. Wish I could run it at 600 but 450 is pretty good.
 
Anyone tried subq injects with their trest yet?

Would this be a good cycle;

Trest ace- 25mg 8 weeks
OL the one - first 4 weeks 100mg
Formestane -50mg (am) ed for 8 weeks
Adex- 0.5mg ed (pm) for 8 weeks
Prami -0.5mg ed (if needed)

PCT
Triptorelin 100mcg
Nolva- 40/40/20/20/10
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

I really wanna pull the trigger and try this lol
 
tyga tyga said:
Anyone tried subq injects with their trest yet?

Would this be a good cycle;

Trest ace- 25mg 8 weeks
OL the one - first 4 weeks 100mg
Formestane -50mg (am) ed for 8 weeks
Adex- 0.5mg ed (pm) for 8 weeks
Prami -0.5mg ed (if needed)

PCT
Triptorelin 100mcg
Nolva- 40/40/20/20/10
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

I really wanna pull the trigger and try this lol
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I wouldn't just into triptorelin, while it sounds promising, I don't trust suppliers.

I'd run the trest higher, no need to stack form and adex, i'd opt for exem over it too, prami shouldn't be needed. Pct seems a little overkill. Nolva 20/20/10/10 stacked with clomid 50/50/25/25 is more than enough.
 
tyga tyga said:
Anyone tried subq injects with their trest yet? Would this be a good cycle; Trest ace- 25mg 8 weeks OL the one - first 4 weeks 100mg Formestane -50mg (am) ed for 8 weeks Adex- 0.5mg ed (pm) for 8 weeks Prami -0.5mg ed (if needed) PCT Triptorelin 100mcg Nolva- 40/40/20/20/10 Clomid- 50/50/25/25 I really wanna pull the trigger and try this lol
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looks perfect to me. You might find you don't need all that AI with just 25mg. Iirc the one is very dry in itself so you may be able to get away with less Adex or maybe just drop the forma
 
booneman77 said:
looks perfect to me. You might find you don't need all that AI with just 25mg. Iirc the one is very dry in itself so you may be able to get away with less Adex or maybe just drop the forma
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I'm pretty sensitive to estrogen. I may just grab aromasin and do; 12.5mg eod and move to 12.5mg ed if needed. Keep the formestane around just in case
 
Anyone else having trouble sleeping on trest? Last night I slept from 9:30 to 3:00 then couldn't go back to sleep. Usually I sleep hard till my alarm goes off at 5:30
 
RickyBlobby said:
Anyone else having trouble sleeping on trest? Last night I slept from 9:30 to 3:00 then couldn't go back to sleep. Usually I sleep hard till my alarm goes off at 5:30
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Are you using dec or ace?

I know deca is giving people insomnia and sleep issues.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Anyone else having trouble sleeping on trest? Last night I slept from 9:30 to 3:00 then couldn't go back to sleep. Usually I sleep hard till my alarm goes off at 5:30
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weird I had the opposite. I slept like the dead my whole cycle of ace
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Trest = faster recovery = less need for sleep? Idk
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IDK. I think it may be blood pressure related though, because when I wake up my breathing feels labored and shallow. It's a strange sensation.
 
RickyBlobby said:
IDK. I think it may be blood pressure related though, because when I wake up my breathing feels labored and shallow. It's a strange sensation.
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is it only when you try to take a deep breath? I had an odd sensation for a couple weeks awhile back where when I woke up in the morning and would take a deep breath it would almost tickle/choke me and make me want to like cough. Very odd. Not sure it was even during my cycle but it was def close.
 
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