DMZ/Epi bridge

Magg0078 said:
**** I don't know. Prolly low. The only fruit I get is grapefruit juice.
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if your sodium/potassium is out of balance then that could be contributing to the pumps. pick some potassium up or get some bananas going, might help a little bit
 
Does anyone know if DMZ and Epi are synergistic? Thinking of running 30mg DMZ and 30mg Epi? Or would 45mg DMZ for 3 weeks to kickstart and 40mg Epi for 3 weeks be better?
 
3 week runs drive me crazy. I don't like them at all. I would get enough epi to run it at 40 for 4-6 weeks. DMZ you could run at 30 for 4-6. I would keep it lowish if you're stacking them, but not the epi.
 
Matthersby said:
3 week runs drive me crazy. I don't like them at all. I would get enough epi to run it at 40 for 4-6 weeks. DMZ you could run at 30 for 4-6. I would keep it lowish if you're stacking them, but not the epi.
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Do you think I'm running it too high at DMZ 60/Epi 30?
 
barrymcokiner said:
Does anyone know if DMZ and Epi are synergistic? Thinking of running 30mg DMZ and 30mg Epi? Or would 45mg DMZ for 3 weeks to kickstart and 40mg Epi for 3 weeks be better?
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6 weeks seems like a good length with proper supports, stacking both would be good. I'd say DMZ at 40-60 and Epi at 30-40, whatever your sweet spot is for each. there are a few logs going on right now of dmz/epi stacks, definitely worth checking out. find something for lethargy because that would be pretty rough haha
 
Magg0078 said:
Do you think I'm running it too high at DMZ 60/Epi 30?
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Have you run either before solo? if so, what were your sweet spots of each? I've seen up to 40/40 or 60/40, so id say you're right in the range, and maybe even bump epi and/or lower dmz to 40
 
Loneyboy said:
6 weeks seems like a good length with proper supports, stacking both would be good. I'd say DMZ at 40-60 and Epi at 30-40, whatever your sweet spot is for each. there are a few logs going on right now of dmz/epi stacks, definitely worth checking out. find something for lethargy because that would be pretty rough haha
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Going to run Stano throughout- Thinking of running Stano for 2 weeks solo after DMZ/Epi is done, into PCT essentially. Anyone done this? Lost all my gains last time I ran DMZ, of course I got sick which was 80% of the reason.
 
Sorry for another post but I'm thinking:

DMZ 45/45/45
Epi 0/0/0/40/50/50/50
Stano 0/0/0/0/800/1000/1000/1000/1000 - last two weeks would be incorporated with PCT
 
barrymcokiner said:
Sorry for another post but I'm thinking:

DMZ 45/45/45
Epi 0/0/0/40/50/50/50
Stano 0/0/0/0/800/1000/1000/1000/1000 - last two weeks would be incorporated with PCT
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Try this :
DMZ 00/40/40/40/40/60/60/00
Epi 00/30/30/40/40/40/40/00
Stano 800 for 8 weeks

This would get much better results. DMZ should not be ran for only 3 weeks.
 
Loneyboy said:
Try this :
DMZ 00/40/40/40/40/60/60/00
Epi 00/30/30/40/40/40/40/00
Stano 800 for 8 weeks

This would get much better results. DMZ should not be ran for only 3 weeks.
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I've never ran a 3 compound cycle- Kind of the reason why I didn't want to run DMZ throughout. Just wanted to kickstart things with DMZ but if you have ran the above suggestion, I will. Did you run what you suggested? Thanks bro
 
barrymcokiner said:
I've never ran a 3 compound cycle- Kind of the reason why I didn't want to run DMZ throughout. Just wanted to kickstart things with DMZ but if you have ran the above suggestion, I will. Did you run what you suggested? Thanks bro
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I haven't ran it before, no, but many people are getting great results with it. Just check the cycle info section
 
I've decided that I'm gonna run it 60mg DMZ 30mg Epi this week, then drop To 40mg DMZ and up Epi to 45mg next week, and then see what happens. Then run the last two weeks based on what happens.
 
Magg0078 said:
I've decided that I'm gonna run it 60mg DMZ 30mg Epi this week, then drop To 40mg DMZ and up Epi to 45mg next week, and then see what happens. Then run the last two weeks based on what happens.
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Sounds good man. Any reason to not just bump epi and keep DMZ at 60? Keep us updated!
 
3 more days and I will hit the halfway mark. I thinking I'll bump the Epi next week and be at 60mg DMZ/ 45mg Epi. It's time to start putting together my PCT. I have clomid and Arimistane. I've had good luck with Bioforge and Xfactor, thinking of that, and Lean Xtreme. Would it be a waste to run the transform the first two weeks of PCT and then start the Arimistane?
Thoughts?
 
3 more days and I will hit the halfway mark. I thinking I'll bump the Epi next week and be at 60mg DMZ/ 45mg Epi. It's time to start putting together my PCT. I have clomid and Arimistane. I've had good luck with Bioforge and Xfactor, thinking of that, and Lean Xtreme. Would it be a waste to run the transform the first two weeks of PCT and then start the Arimistane?
Thoughts?
 
Arimistane with OTC product plus Clomid. Formestane starting week 3 when you start tapering Clomid off. Then taper the form off after a couple weeks. Wouldn't use the LeanXtreme in pct. Don't burn the gains!!! Save it for down the road after you know you have solidified that muscle tissue.
 
Me too. No hype, no flashy advertising. Just natural, inexpensive, well thought out supplements. Plus they smell awful, like real vitamins should.
 
Popped 2 pills of each PWO no holding back now. I might mention that strength was went through the roof. I'm up 10 lbs since the start. Scalp has been itchy lately. DHEA has kept the libido along, sleeping with a hard on all night. Lethargy, I'm tired as fuark! Been pumped 24/7. Thanks for the input from everyone thus far.
 
Well, I can officially say libido is gone. Beans are shriveled. Pumps are insane, joints are bit creaky. Back pumps have been ok to deal with since adding V8 juice in the mornings.
 
Sides were too much for me at 60/45. Have since backed down to 40/30. Had a thought of starting PCT, but see how backing down will do. Emotional/phsycho sides along with higher BP was the root. I was in a bad place.
 
Magg- how much weight have you gained, and have you noticed any fat loss? I didn't notice any post on that. I'll be running something similar here soon (Triumph instead of Epi) with DMZ. Cheers
 
Magg0078 said:
Sides were too much for me at 60/45. Have since backed down to 40/30. Had a thought of starting PCT, but see how backing down will do. Emotional/phsycho sides along with higher BP was the root. I was in a bad place.
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Good idea. Glad you can read those sides well and deal with them accordingly. DMZ always gets me pretty emotional, not quite sure why.
 
barrymcokiner said:
Magg- how much weight have you gained, and have you noticed any fat loss? I didn't notice any post on that. I'll be running something similar here soon (Triumph instead of Epi) with DMZ. Cheers
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I have definitely put on 15 lbs of muscle with some thinning of the waist. That is even eating pizza, burgers, fries, and ice cream on occasion. I plan on watching my carbs a little better. My biggest problem is my pants and shirts all don't fit anymore because of my legs/shoulders/arms.
 
Magg0078 said:
I have definitely put on 15 lbs of muscle with some thinning of the waist. That is even eating pizza, burgers, fries, and ice cream on occasion. I plan on watching my carbs a little better. My biggest problem is my pants and shirts all don't fit anymore because of my legs/shoulders/arms.
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Pizza, burgers, fries, and especially ice cream are all anabolics, so no wonder why your getting hyuge. I know that struggles tho, blew up on my summer cycle like 20lbs, but more fat gain than I liked.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Pizza, burgers, fries, and especially ice cream are all anabolics, so no wonder why your getting hyuge. I know that struggles tho, blew up on my summer cycle like 20lbs, but more fat gain than I liked.
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To get as big as a house, you have to eat the contents of an entire house. I am gonna have slow down the eating. It's out of control. Ate a ton of sushi tonight.
 
I've been hobbling around since Thurs, which was my last leg session. My inner quads have been tight. I remember really stretching my legs out in my sleep last night. Woke up and my leg is purple. Pulled it. I'm surprised I've been able to walk on it. No legs this week I guess.
 
Magg0078 said:
I've been hobbling around since Thurs, which was my last leg session. My inner quads have been tight. I remember really stretching my legs out in my sleep last night. Woke up and my leg is purple. Pulled it. I'm surprised I've been able to walk on it. No legs this week I guess.
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**** man. My adductor has been giving me trouble as well, smart to keep away from it for a bit. Inflammation in the legs and hips can be extremely detrimental
 
Loneyboy said:
**** man. My adductor has been giving me trouble as well, smart to keep away from it for a bit. Inflammation in the legs and hips can be extremely detrimental
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Sucks because I wanted to make my sticks trunks this go around. Really focusing on them. I did some front squats for the first time in years and think it's the culprit.
 
How it looks....
 

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Please excuse the ghetto ass mirror. My son broke it in the store, so we bought it. SMH. Yeah it's sore, so much I lose concentration to work.
 
Got my PCT lined up:
Clomid
Arimistane
DAA
Bioforge
X gels
Jack3d
Transform

I should recover pretty good with all this!
 
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