The Arachidonic Acid Help Guide

Dma378 said:
Awesome thank you. I think I will dose the Reduce in the morning an at bed. 2 caps each. I workout around 5:30pm so will probably skip the PWO. Order is shipped, excited to start both.
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Sweet man! Though I wouldn't go above 3caps/day (2/1 dosing)...controlling cortisol, good...crushing it, not so good :)
 
Dma378 said:
Excellent. Does it matter that I'm in PCT right now? Same recommendation?
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Yep same recommendation. Cort is still important
 
First ARA run. Doing 1.5g ARA, 7.5g GMS, 2g ALCAR.

I typically take 50g of Karbolyn as part of my Pre/Intra/Post drink along with creatine, EAA's (1/3 before, 1/3 during, 1/3 after)

What's my better timing option:
A) Karbolyn drink 30mins prior and ARA after first set.
B) ARA 30/45mins prior and Karbolyn after first set.
 
warriorcookie said:
First ARA run. Doing 1.5g ARA, 7.5g GMS, 2g ALCAR.

I typically take 50g of Karbolyn as part of my Pre/Intra/Post drink along with creatine, EAA's (1/3 before, 1/3 during, 1/3 after)

What's my better timing option:
A) Karbolyn drink 30mins prior and ARA after first set.
B) ARA 30/45mins prior and Karbolyn after first set.
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Option A
 
warriorcookie said:
First ARA run. Doing 1.5g ARA, 7.5g GMS, 2g ALCAR.

I typically take 50g of Karbolyn as part of my Pre/Intra/Post drink along with creatine, EAA's (1/3 before, 1/3 during, 1/3 after)

What's my better timing option:
A) Karbolyn drink 30mins prior and ARA after first set.
B) ARA 30/45mins prior and Karbolyn after first set.
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I wouldn't sweat it too much given exercise suppresses insulin secretion and elevated insulin levels are what we're trying to avoid with ArA (as I'm sure you know given the nature of your post).
 
Read the first few pages but need clarification on a couple of things. Ordered 2 bottles of X-gels to use after my next cycle. Probably during PCT.

PCT
17-20 SNS Reduce XT
17-20 Isa-Test GF
17-? SNS X-gels
17-22 Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/25
17-22 Nolvadex 20/20/20/10/10/10
17-22 Aromasin 12.5mg ED

I generally wake up at 6am, have my first meal at 10am and train at 11am. What would be the best time to take the X-gels? Also I plan taking them on lifting days (4 days a week) would I just take until the two bottles are finished? That would give me 50 days use.

Other supplements I will be taking are, LGI cycle support, glucosamine, creatine, multivitamin, and milk thistle (all not long after I wake up). Will take my fish oils later in the day.

Thanks in advance.
 
damn shame said:
Read the first few pages but need clarification on a couple of things. Ordered 2 bottles of X-gels to use after my next cycle. Probably during PCT.

PCT
17-20 SNS Reduce XT
17-20 Isa-Test GF
17-? SNS X-gels
17-22 Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/25
17-22 Nolvadex 20/20/20/10/10/10
17-22 Aromasin 12.5mg ED

I generally wake up at 6am, have my first meal at 10am and train at 11am. What would be the best time to take the X-gels? Also I plan taking them on lifting days (4 days a week) would I just take until the two bottles are finished? That would give me 50 days use.

Other supplements I will be taking are, LGI cycle support, glucosamine, creatine, multivitamin, and milk thistle (all not long after I wake up). Will take my fish oils later in the day.

Thanks in advance.
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Run it for 50 days. best way to take it with you schedule would be to dose after your warmup set(s). you want to be as close to fasted as possible, or having begun your workout to ensure it goes to teh muscles.
 
booneman77 said:
Run it for 50 days. best way to take it with you schedule would be to dose after your warmup set(s). you want to be as close to fasted as possible, or having begun your workout to ensure it goes to teh muscles.
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Interesting. So not PWO like 30 min prior? More like at the beginning of the workout.
 
Dma378 said:
Interesting. So not PWO like 30 min prior? More like at the beginning of the workout.
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You only need to dose during warm up sets if you say take an intra drink and/or recently just ate. Not that huge of a deal, just be sure to get the ArA in close to the workout.
 
damn shame said:
Read the first few pages but need clarification on a couple of things. Ordered 2 bottles of X-gels to use after my next cycle. Probably during PCT.

PCT
17-20 SNS Reduce XT
17-20 Isa-Test GF
17-? SNS X-gels
17-22 Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/25
17-22 Nolvadex 20/20/20/10/10/10
17-22 Aromasin 12.5mg ED

I generally wake up at 6am, have my first meal at 10am and train at 11am. What would be the best time to take the X-gels? Also I plan taking them on lifting days (4 days a week) would I just take until the two bottles are finished? That would give me 50 days use.

Other supplements I will be taking are, LGI cycle support, glucosamine, creatine, multivitamin, and milk thistle (all not long after I wake up). Will take my fish oils later in the day.

Thanks in advance.
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50 days use is the way to go. Dose roughly 30 mins pre workout. :D
 
kbayne said:
You only need to dose during warm up sets if you say take an intra drink and/or recently just ate. Not that huge of a deal, just be sure to get the ArA in close to the workout.
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Jiigzz said:
50 days use is the way to go. Dose roughly 30 mins pre workout. :D
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So just get it close. Got it. Might as well lay out my plan to get confirmation on the combo:

Eat usually 1.5-2 hours prior (last break at work)
Conqu3r/Vital1ty 20-30min PWO (when leaving work)
X-Gels here?? (say when entering the gym) or take with PWO drink?
USPLabs Modern BCAA's Intra
 
Dma378 said:
So just get it close. Got it. Might as well lay out my plan to get confirmation on the combo: Eat usually 1.5-2 hours prior (last break at work) Conqu3r/Vital1ty 20-30min PWO (when leaving work) X-Gels here?? (say when entering the gym) or take with PWO drink? USPLabs Modern BCAA's Intra
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Your pre meal will leave plenty of time before the gym. You could dose X-Gels with your pre-workout and be good.
 
Is xfactor advanced still good to take for 1.5grams per workout? I know they studied only pure ArA for 50days. What about xfactor advanced? Do they still give similar resulta with plain ArA?
 
damn shame said:
Thanks, so the two tubs will last me 12 weeks taking them 4 days a week. Is it better to do it this way or take them everyday for 50 consecutive days?
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better to take on workout days only. no real reason to take it on off days so long as you're working out enough days/week (which 4 is)
 
Alright i have a question, say you lift 5 days a week, would it be better to dose all 5 days or dose 4 days a week so that the ara will be in your system longer?
 
zcol94 said:
Alright i have a question, say you lift 5 days a week, would it be better to dose all 5 days or dose 4 days a week so that the ara will be in your system longer?
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Dose pre-workout each day. That's how I'd do it. What are you going with for a serving size?
 
I haven't started I'll be doing it as part of my pct in a few months , I was thinking 1.5 based on all the feedback in here
 
paula said:
Is xfactor advanced still good to take for 1.5grams per workout? I know they studied only pure ArA for 50days. What about xfactor advanced? Do they still give similar resulta with plain ArA?
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You should be good with 1.5 grams for XFA.
 
zcol94 said:
I haven't started I'll be doing it as part of my pct in a few months , I was thinking 1.5 based on all the feedback in here
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Smart call, X-Factor is VERY effective during pct. Given the nature of the people who follow Bill Llewellyn's work such as his Anabolics book and column, we have a ton of PH/AAS users who swear by X-Factor for retaining, and even building upon their new gains.
 
I am about to start my first ArA cycle (goal: GAINS):

1g ArA+5GMS+5gCreatine+2gLCLT prewo, 6 days routine, 50 workout days.

I would like to add Recompadrol+Na-R-Ala and Forskolin95, adding also some carbs ti my diet plan. What do you think about it? Too much? Dosage?
 
Fbaz said:
I am about to start my first ArA cycle (goal: GAINS):

1g ArA+5GMS+5gCreatine+2gLCLT prewo, 6 days routine, 50 workout days.

I would like to add Recompadrol+Na-R-Ala and Forskolin95, adding also some carbs ti my diet plan. What do you think about it? Too much? Dosage?
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I'd add only ABE, Recompadrol only with cheat meal if your goal is GAIN
 
Fbaz said:
I am about to start my first ArA cycle (goal: GAINS): 1g ArA+5GMS+5gCreatine+2gLCLT prewo, 6 days routine, 50 workout days. I would like to add Recompadrol+Na-R-Ala and Forskolin95, adding also some carbs ti my diet plan. What do you think about it? Too much? Dosage?
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Nothing wrong with adding those.

Na-RALA: 300mg prior to carb meal in the morning. You can add another 300mg later if you want, but not needed.

Forskolin: start at 25-50mg to access tolerance and work your way up.
 
kbayne said:
Nothing wrong with adding those.

Na-RALA: 300mg prior to carb meal in the morning. You can add another 300mg later if you want, but not needed.

Forskolin: start at 25-50mg to access tolerance and work your way up.
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Ok thanks, Forskolin and Recompadrol timing? I was thinking in the morning and postworkout, keeping them far from the ara prewo.
Feiwong: why recompadrol only on cheats?
 
Fbaz said:
Ok thanks, Forskolin and Recompadrol timing? I was thinking in the morning and postworkout, keeping them far from the ara prewo.
Feiwong: why recompadrol only on cheats?
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Dose Recompadrol prior to carb meals (excluding post-workout).

Dose Forskolin morning, pre-workout, or pre-bed.
 
aaronuconn said:
Doesn't the berberine diminish forskolin's impact on cAMP?
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That is what the literature says. There was discussion in another thread about the two and the interactions.
 
Fbaz said:
Ok thanks, Forskolin and Recompadrol timing? I was thinking in the morning and postworkout, keeping them far from the ara prewo.
Feiwong: why recompadrol only on cheats?
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Abe has enough foskolin and is a decent gda. Supposing your diet is clean and if your goal is gain, Abe is all you want (anabolic-gda-lean mass). I'd add recompadrol only when your meals are not so clean when Abe is not enought.
 
aaronuconn said:
Doesn't the berberine diminish forskolin's impact on cAMP?
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yes but you forget the reason you use it

Pre meal that elevation in cAMP by forskolin Will do hardly anything for lipolysis which is how berberine blocks its affects

If taking it on empty then don't take with berberine


Lipolysis is blunted when you eat
 
EBF Inc said:
yes but you forget the reason you use it

Pre meal that elevation in cAMP by forskolin Will do hardly anything for lipolysis which is how berberine blocks its affects

If taking it on empty then don't take with berberine

Lipolysis is blunted when you eat
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= I always take forskolin with my thermos = on an empty stomach = not taking berberine (AP)
 
Increased insulin activity negates ara? Just curious as im going to start an eaa/ hbcd intra/post regime
 
Great thread. For some honest feedback, our guys cycle ARA off and on. It has always seemed to be extremely effective when it comes to GH related gains.
 
hvactech said:
Increased insulin activity negates ara? Just curious as im going to start an eaa/ hbcd intra/post regime
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Youll be algood with your stack
 
SwolenONE said:
Looking forward to seeing it, knowing you it will be quite comprehensive and thoroughly planned out!
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diets been slacking lmao but still hitting my marks in carbs and fat

But take in so many aminos I hit enough protein (I know what most will say but it works for me)

Body weight in protein from solid food and maybe shakes then I hit aminos like its no ones business
 
kbayne said:
Dose Recompadrol prior to carb meals (excluding post-workout).

Dose Forskolin morning, pre-workout, or pre-bed.
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Ok very thank you, so this is my plan, can i confirm it and go for the big-gains run?

9AM = 20 min pre breakfast (80g carbs): 300mg Na-R-Ala+2cps Recompadrol
1 PM = Pre-lunch (no complex carbs): 25mg forskolin
3 PM = 20 min pre afternoon snack (50g carbs) 2cps Recompadrol
7PM = 1g ArA+25g forskolin
7:30 PM = workout
9 PM: 20 min pre-dinner (largest meal with 120g carbs): 300mg Na-R-Ala
Pre-bed: 25 mg forskolin (after 1/2 weeks of assestment).

Other supps: 1gAgmatine+5g creatine postwo, 5g leucine postwo,1g Agmatine+2g lclt+5gms prewo with ArA, 5000ui d3.
 
Fbaz said:
Ok very thank you, so this is my plan, can i confirm it and go for the big-gains run? 9AM = 20 min pre breakfast (80g carbs): 300mg Na-R-Ala+2cps Recompadrol 1 PM = Pre-lunch (no complex carbs): 25mg forskolin 3 PM = 20 min pre afternoon snack (50g carbs) 2cps Recompadrol 7PM = 1g ArA+25g forskolin 7:30 PM = workout 9 PM: 20 min pre-dinner (largest meal with 120g carbs): 300mg Na-R-Ala Pre-bed: 25 mg forskolin (after 1/2 weeks of assestment). Other supps: 1gAgmatine+5g creatine postwo, 5g leucine postwo,1g Agmatine+2g lclt+5gms prewo with ArA, 5000ui d3.
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You cutting? Recomping or bulking?

1 cap for up to 120 carbs for recompadrol
 
Should I utilize a gda with my 50g of karbolyn preWO EBF?
 
Will be finally starting X Gels tomorrow. Was just wondering if there is a particular diet or macros plan that they work the best with. (i.e. high carbs, high pro, etc.).
 
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