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Tommurph STENADROL & TR3ST LOG

eddieaz said:
Way to go, Tom! I'm loving the little "trial run" I'm doing of MI40 this week. Keep pushing through the pain, that's where the GAINZ are made!!
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Yeah man! The PAIN deffinately comes! Hit me up if you want. The offer still stands for you.
 
Day 1 PCT
Yesterday was Day 50 of Stenadrol/Trest
Did MI40 Day 3 quads/calves, very difficult, felt like puking for an hour afterwards. I need to buy a seated calf raise machine.
Weight today 205, starting weight 186.
Current bench max 355lbs, starting bench max 315lbs.
Will put up after pics in couple days.

This morning:
50mg clomid
20mg nolva
100mg dermaStrength
1 cap Most Wanted
5 caps canabal alpha/5 caps afternoon/5caps evening
Sup3rPct 4 caps this evening (forgot to take this morning)
10mg Osta
 
tommurph said:
Thanks brother! I got up this morning and still felt like I just finished my workout!
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Haha nice!! Great job! Those workouts sound awesome! They have it on sale right now for less than $50!! I might have to get it!
 
tommurph said:
Thanks I'm really trying to hang on to my gains!
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I was wondering, now I know! PCT is way more expensive than the cycle!

If you don't keep your gains with that pct, than no one can! Keep busting that MI40 and you'll probably GAIN during PCT!
 
love2liftkat said:
Haha nice!! Great job! Those workouts sound awesome! They have it on sale right now for less than $50!! I might have to get it!
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Yeah and I think that sale is on the new one MI40X! I'm enjoying it!
eddieaz said:
I was wondering, now I know! PCT is way more expensive than the cycle! If you don't keep your gains with that pct, than no one can! Keep busting that MI40 and you'll probably GAIN during PCT!
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Some of my PCT stuff is left overs, but yeah it at least cost as much as the cycle. MI40 rocks!
 
BigRed1974 said:
Seems like all the cool kids are going to MI40 now:)
Nice work!!
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It's because Ben is a smart mother ****er man.

Every time I watch a video I learn some new ****, and I'm talking YouTube. I don't even have the program yet lol.
 
Tagger said:
It's because Ben is a smart mother ****er man. Every time I watch a video I learn some new ****, and I'm talking YouTube. I don't even have the program yet lol.
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Yeah, that's right, and you have to watch it several times because of all the info to get it to sink in.
 
tommurph said:
Day 1 PCT Yesterday was Day 50 of Stenadrol/Trest Did MI40 Day 3 quads/calves, very difficult, felt like puking for an hour afterwards. I need to buy a seated calf raise machine. Weight today 205, starting weight 186. Current bench max 355lbs, starting bench max 315lbs. Will put up after pics in couple days. This morning: 50mg clomid 20mg nolva 100mg dermaStrength 1 cap Most Wanted 5 caps canabal alpha/5 caps afternoon/5caps evening Sup3rPct 4 caps this evening (forgot to take this morning) 10mg Osta
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40lbs on the Bench is nice brotha, nice weight gain also, good stuff..

PCT is a sad time, hate ending cycles..
Looks like it was a nice run though, I'm going to run Stenadol my next go around most likely..
Sucks, buying 2 bottles though lol
 
Goliath1 said:
40lbs on the Bench is nice brotha, nice weight gain also, good stuff.. PCT is a sad time, hate ending cycles.. Looks like it was a nice run though, I'm going to run Stenadol my next go around most likely.. Sucks, buying 2 bottles though lol
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It was really smooth until I upped it to 6 caps a day, then I felt high blood pressure and a nervous anxiety, plus sleeplessness. But at 4 caps a day I could hardly tell I was even taking anything, it was like weight magically increased and strength magically increased, but I didn't feel different. So pretty smooth stuff!
 
tommurph said:
It was really smooth until I upped it to 6 caps a day, then I felt high blood pressure and a nervous anxiety, plus sleeplessness. But at 4 caps a day I could hardly tell I was even taking anything, it was like weight magically increased and strength magically increased, but I didn't feel different. So pretty smooth stuff!
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Oh yeah, and buying 2 bottles is why I upped to 6 caps a day to try and use it up, but that wasn't working out good.
 
tommurph said:
It was really smooth until I upped it to 6 caps a day, then I felt high blood pressure and a nervous anxiety, plus sleeplessness. But at 4 caps a day I could hardly tell I was even taking anything, it was like weight magically increased and strength magically increased, but I didn't feel different. So pretty smooth stuff!
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I get a little anxiety it seems myself with anything lately, have a little now and slight sleeplessness but nothing to really complain about.. I drink a ton of caffeine ED but lowering it to almost 0 seems to help a bit..

tommurph said:
Oh yeah, and buying 2 bottles is why I upped to 6 caps a day to try and use it up, but that wasn't working out good.
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Thanks for the heads up lol
I'll stick with the 1 bottle I have for now and see how it goes when I run it..
 
tommurph said:
One of them made me really sick after about 4 days of taking it. I'm thinking it was the Epi, had a bad fever, severe sore throat. I remember going to pee and shaking so bad I couldn't hit the toilet, lol! Plus had bad back pumps!
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Well no a virus or bacteria made you sick, the androgens just lowered your immune system a bit, it is quite common and originally known as the Test Flu...
Goliath1 said:
Haven't used Transform yet, but Formabolic is enough for 500mg of Test for me.. Dosage varies on how I'm feeling, but never went above 200mg.. ( I think, gotta check my bottle for dosage )
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The difference it that Trest converts to estrogen at a MUCH higher rate than testosterone does. It is also more anabolic too.
tommurph said:
I didn't have any issues the last time I ran tren so I should be ok with inhibit P, but I could grab some Prami as long as I don't start to want to join the Glee Club!
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LOL I love Prami! I also believe the doses for parkinsons and restless leg syndrome are like 3-4mg a day as opposed to .25 up to maybe 1mg. However making someone hyper-sexual and into riskier behavior and changing what turns them on is two different things I call BS on this guy... He liked dudes already the prami just helped him unlock his closet...
Goliath1 said:
40lbs on the Bench is nice brotha, nice weight gain also, good stuff..

PCT is a sad time, hate ending cycles..
Looks like it was a nice run though, I'm going to run Stenadol my next go around most likely..
Sucks, buying 2 bottles though lol
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Yeah PCT is over rated and if in your 40's and not trying to have kids go get on TRT after your cycle... Skip the SERM, take an anti cort product, & pound liver supps. Wait 2 weeks and go get a testosterone test done. Your test will be in the bucket and you will suddenly be on TRT. No more pct...
 
Goliath1 said:
I get a little anxiety it seems myself with anything lately, have a little now and slight sleeplessness but nothing to really complain about.. I drink a ton of caffeine ED but lowering it to almost 0 seems to help a bit.. Thanks for the heads up lol I'll stick with the 1 bottle I have for now and see how it goes when I run it..
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That was part of my problem, caffeine. I would drink coffee 2-3 times a day plus a couple monster drinks(dang things are addictive).
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well no a virus or bacteria made you sick, the androgens just lowered your immune system a bit, it is quite common and originally known as the Test Flu... The difference it that Trest converts to estrogen at a MUCH higher rate than testosterone does. It is also more anabolic too. LOL I love Prami! I also believe the doses for parkinsons and restless leg syndrome are like 3-4mg a day as opposed to .25 up to maybe 1mg. However making someone hyper-sexual and into riskier behavior and changing what turns them on is two different things I call BS on this guy... He liked dudes already the prami just helped him unlock his closet... Yeah PCT is over rated and if in your 40's and not trying to have kids go get on TRT after your cycle... Skip the SERM, take an anti cort product, & pound liver supps. Wait 2 weeks and go get a testosterone test done. Your test will be in the bucket and you will suddenly be on TRT. No more pct...
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Kleen"s always got the 411 on things..
Appreciate you sir!

My last PCT was rough, I'm only 31 so I'm not ready for TRT, but I know it will come one day, and I'm okay with that..
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well no a virus or bacteria made you sick, the androgens just lowered your immune system a bit, it is quite common and originally known as the Test Flu... The difference it that Trest converts to estrogen at a MUCH higher rate than testosterone does. It is also more anabolic too. LOL I love Prami! I also believe the doses for parkinsons and restless leg syndrome are like 3-4mg a day as opposed to .25 up to maybe 1mg. However making someone hyper-sexual and into riskier behavior and changing what turns them on is two different things I call BS on this guy... He liked dudes already the prami just helped him unlock his closet... Yeah PCT is over rated and if in your 40's and not trying to have kids go get on TRT after your cycle... Skip the SERM, take an anti cort product, & pound liver supps. Wait 2 weeks and go get a testosterone test done. Your test will be in the bucket and you will suddenly be on TRT. No more pct...
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TRT sounds GREAT, but wife is thinking of having one more baby, but if not pregnant by spring she doesn't want anymore.(some kind of woman logic I don't know). So anyway I get a little more action while trying! Maybe I'll hit the TRT after spring run!
 
MrKleen73 thanks for all your advice and imput, it is much appreciated! I think your right about the Prami guy, it was just the key that let him out of the closet!
The Test Flu, you spoke of, is it more common when using dry compounds? I've had no issue this go, but I did head your warnings to take plenty of glutamine.
 
Looking awesome!!
 
Goliath1 said:
I'm gunna get some new pics up, cause I'm 5"11 @ 237 as of last night... I don't think I look no 32lbs bigger than you lol Maybe my scale is broke haha
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Dang brother! Maybe my scale is broken! I've got 2 scales, I better weigh myself on the other and see if it's close. The pic was right after doing bench so I was pumped.
 
tommurph said:
MrKleen73 thanks for all your advice and imput, it is much appreciated! I think your right about the Prami guy, it was just the key that let him out of the closet!
The Test Flu, you spoke of, is it more common when using dry compounds? I've had no issue this go, but I did head your warnings to take plenty of glutamine.
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No it is simply from androgens. I think it has to do with the increased RBC count not allowing for a lot of room for the Whie blood cells but that is me making an educated guess. I honestly don't remember what the exact reason was. I used to know exactly but too much info gone in and out of this head of mine... However, Glutamine is magic for your immune system so even if exposed you are unlikely to get anything.

tommurph said:
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Pic from Day 35 on cycle, 20lbs up.
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Looking big!
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Maybe it's the camera angle! But yeah 5'11" 205lbs, thanks, sweet talk words to a lifter!
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Just depends on size everywhere else and also the size of your joints. I always here I look bigger than I am and I attribute that to my small joints.
tommurph said:
Dang brother! Maybe my scale is broken! I've got 2 scales, I better weigh myself on the other and see if it's close. The pic was right after doing bench so I was pumped.
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Well the pump is probably helping but you are quite a bit bigger than you were pump be damned...
 
MrKleen73 said:
No it is simply from androgens. I think it has to do with the increased RBC count not allowing for a lot of room for the Whie blood cells but that is me making an educated guess. I honestly don't remember what the exact reason was. I used to know exactly but too much info gone in and out of this head of mine... However, Glutamine is magic for your immune system so even if exposed you are unlikely to get anything. Looking big! Just depends on size everywhere else and also the size of your joints. I always here I look bigger than I am and I attribute that to my small joints. Well the pump is probably helping but you are quite a bit bigger than you were pump be damned...
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Thanks so much brother for all the encouraging words. Man if you wrote books or even instructional pamphlets you would sale a ton! I mean just like on the other thread where you straightened out the deal of running two DS back to back was a great help to a lot of people. You rock man!
 
Who took a bite out of your left shoulder? That is probably why the weight is lower than you'd expect. Or am I seeing things? Looking large though!
 
Bult said:
Who took a bite out of your left shoulder? That is probably why the weight is lower than you'd expect. Or am I seeing things? Looking large though!
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Bult That is his tattoo blending in with the background I noticed it too and had to look closer.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well no a virus or bacteria made you sick, the androgens just lowered your immune system a bit, it is quite common and originally known as the Test Flu...

The difference it that Trest converts to estrogen at a MUCH higher rate than testosterone does. It is also more anabolic too.

LOL I love Prami! I also believe the doses for parkinsons and restless leg syndrome are like 3-4mg a day as opposed to .25 up to maybe 1mg. However making someone hyper-sexual and into riskier behavior and changing what turns them on is two different things I call BS on this guy... He liked dudes already the prami just helped him unlock his closet...


Yeah PCT is over rated and if in your 40's and not trying to have kids go get on TRT after your cycle... Skip the SERM, take an anti cort product, & pound liver supps. Wait 2 weeks and go get a testosterone test done. Your test will be in the bucket and you will suddenly be on TRT. No more pct...
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^^ Kleen knows ALL the tricks! :clap2:
 
You're looking great and a LOT bigger than when you started. Great GAINZ!! Let me know if MI40 hurts even worse when you're on PCT... I have a feeling it does. Does Hydrocodone affect your gains??
 
eddieaz said:
You're looking great and a LOT bigger than when you started. Great GAINZ!! Let me know if MI40 hurts even worse when you're on PCT... I have a feeling it does. Does Hydrocodone affect your gains??
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I have a rest day today so I'll be back at it tomorrow, we'll see how PCT treats it! Maybe methadone!
 
Keep us informed, Brutha!
 
eddieaz said:
You're looking great and a LOT bigger than when you started. Great GAINZ!! Let me know if MI40 hurts even worse when you're on PCT... I have a feeling it does. Does Hydrocodone affect your gains??
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Hyrdrocodone does not effect inflammation levels so it should not have any negative effects on gains. NSAIDS and other anti inflammatory products right after a workout can cause some issues but hydrocodone works through another MoA...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Hyrdrocodone does not effect inflammation levels so it should not have any negative effects on gains. NSAIDS and other anti inflammatory products right after a workout can cause some issues but hydrocodone works through another MoA...
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See? There we go, Tom! Just pop a pain pill after workout... or maybe before! Ah, crud. They usually do combine it with tylenol. Is acetaminophen an anti-inflammatory?
 
eddieaz said:
See? There we go, Tom! Just pop a pain pill after workout... or maybe before! Ah, crud. They usually do combine it with tylenol. Is acetaminophen an anti-inflammatory?
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I missed my workout last night brother. I sat down on the couch about 8pm, then I was gone to never never land. Sunday is a rest day on schedule I'll have to just move my rest day and be back on schedule! Today is back/hams!
 
tommurph said:
I missed my workout last night brother. I sat down on the couch about 8pm, then I was gone to never never land. Sunday is a rest day on schedule I'll have to just move my rest day and be back on schedule! Today is back/hams!
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Back/hams? No wonder you missed! That workout is not for the timid!
 
tommurph said:
Yeah man! I'm going do do the deadlifts first, last time couldn't even do them because they were at the end of the workout.
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Lol. Hopefully, that will help. I think it will just make the other exercises worse!
 
tommurph said:
Man, I feel beat up. MI40 back/hams, I can't write it all down, too tired, out of breath.
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Come on, Tom! I know you've got it in you! Kill them weights! Goliath will be feeling the pain with us shortly! We'll be riding the gainz train together!
 
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