Ostarine Questions

Well I was gonna run keto and wondered if that would make osta hate me lol I'm not using osta currently just curious as to what everyone else thinks.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Well I was gonna run keto and wondered if that would make osta hate me lol I'm not using osta currently just curious as to what everyone else thinks.
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If trying to cut, just go PSMF rather than keto. It's basically the same thing and you get into ketosis much faster.

Ostarine will hold onto as much muscle as possible. Ostarine is practically an AAS. AASs reduce leucine oxidation. So while on Osta, do PSMF while upping your leucine.

20-25mg should be sufficient.

I said in my log that 30mg makes me too hungry, so that's why I drop it down to 25mg on depletion days. Just be wary of water weight and bloatedness.
 
That fasting protocol is nuts lol, felt like death on it. Rather keto and eat somewhat normal. But, good advice ether way
 
kissdadookie said:
When did it kick in for you Jarod? I'm going into week two right now, nothing much to note.
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Wow two weeks and nada?

Week 2 & 3 for me were where things started looking anabolic in the mirror.

However better pumps where also noted around days 4-6.

Using OL brand.
 
kiss, I noticed better pumps right from the start but I didn't notice much else until almost the 4th week. Week 5 is when the hunger kicked in and I am now currently on week 6 @ 20mg.
 
jarod86 said:
Wow two weeks and nada?

Week 2 & 3 for me were where things started looking anabolic in the mirror.

However better pumps where also noted around days 4-6.

Using OL brand.
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Sounds similar to my experience. The longer the cycle went, the the fuller and tighter I felt.



I "deflated" pretty quick.





I may try a lower dose, longer cycle, next time. The trial was ~16 weeks, although 1mg & 3mg doses. I might do 10mg or 15mg for 12-16 weeks next time. I did 20mg @ ~8 weeks, this time.
 
Ost is great....however today a guy on full blown AAS popped into the gym. I felt like a dwarf with anorexia.

OST gains for the most part are retainable, are AAS Gains? Or do you shrivel up once you stop juicing?
 
I find beter results taking it in the AM, my energy is higher mood is better libido seems stronger
 
jarod86 said:
Ost is great....however today a guy on full blown AAS popped into the gym. I felt like a dwarf with anorexia.

OST gains for the most part are retainable, are AAS Gains? Or do you shrivel up once you stop juicing?
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Its all about diet my friend if you dont eat for the muscle you have vs eating for what you had you will losse your gains
 
For whatever reason, I seemed to get slight anxiety dosed preworkout with my normal stims. I dont know if it was coincidence or what. I dosed all first thing AM after that.
 
I became lethargic after 3-4 weeks on osta, more shutdown than expected but no big deal. Everyone knows it's hormonal.
 
jarod86 said:
Ost is great....however today a guy on full blown AAS popped into the gym. I felt like a dwarf with anorexia.

OST gains for the most part are retainable, are AAS Gains? Or do you shrivel up once you stop juicing?
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I have been at this for about 20 years and if there is one thing that has always been true, continues to be and always will be is that no matter how big/lean you are there is always going to be someone who is bigger/leaner. You can either always try to improve despite others being better or you can join a smaller gym. Big Fish Small Pond suits some people lol.

I know what you are saying though. There have been a few times when I see the really freaky guy and tell my self, "Self, I'm going to do what it takes to look like that!" About a week or two in I feel like ****e and realize, "Oh yea, this is why I put my health first and gains second."
 
Most guys want to be bigger and when they see some other bigger guy come in it seems like a threat. Just go for the bod you want haha not all girls want 300lb monster... Most just want that beach body/underwear model look
 
BCseacow83 said:
I have been at this for about 20 years and if there is one thing that has always been true, continues to be and always will be is that no matter how big/lean you are there is always going to be someone who is bigger/leaner. You can either always try to improve despite others being better or you can join a smaller gym. Big Fish Small Pond suits some people lol. I know what you are saying though. There have been a few times when I see the really freaky guy and tell my self, "Self, I'm going to do what it takes to look like that!" About a week or two in I feel like ****e and realize, "Oh yea, this is why I put my health first and gains second."
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Big fish small pond lol
 
The Engineer said:
Attainable: (possible with the help of ostarine)

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I agree that this is something that is far more attainable than pro's of today. The thing is some of us do not have a structure that lends it self to that look as much as others. I have a pretty wide waist, even when dieted down. Due to this I need more size in areas such as back and shoulders to give me a better taper. While I look fine when light and lean(say 10%) I actually like my look a bit better with an extra 20 lbs and say 12-14% BF. I agree that just about no one is interested in a 300lb freak as far as the opposite sex goes but really I don't do this for the ladies, I open doors, buy flowers, watch crappy movies and say nice things for the ladies but BB? No, that's for me.
 
BCseacow83 said:
I agree that this is something that is far more attainable than pro's of today. The thing is some of us do not have a structure that lends it self to that look as much as others. I have a pretty wide waist, even when dieted down. Due to this I need more size in areas such as back and shoulders to give me a better taper. While I look fine when light and lean(say 10%) I actually like my look a bit better with an extra 20 lbs and say 12-14% BF. I agree that just about no one is interested in a 300lb freak as far as the opposite sex goes but really I don't do this for the ladies, I open doors, buy flowers, watch crappy movies and say nice things for the ladies but BB? No, that's for me.
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Agree genetics play a big part.

I do bench for myself and it doesn't hurt that the ladies like the pecs also.
 
Oh for sure it does not hurt. But getting up early to do cardio when it's dark, cold and your exhausted is not going to happen if getting a few extra looks at the beach or club is your only motivation. Can it add to your motivation? Of course. For me personally the possibility of getting laid has never gotten me extra reps with 405 on my back. At the end of the day I am not judging what ever it takes people to get off there buts and get at it is good enough for me.
 
That's Frank Zane -the master of aesthetics.

And I don't know how much he weighed there, but he beat Arnold at 198. He's 5'8" btw
 
I would guess 180-190 in that pic, I have seen him bigger for sure. As far as a body you could maintain well into your later years his is hard to beat.
 
On osta I knowtice less of a sexual desire and im in the beginning of week 3 however I have strong boners all day. I have sex 3 times a day usually and wake up in the mornings with boners. I just don't crave the sex quite as much. It may just be me though.

The first two weeks I got good pumps and felt like an alpha male. Maybe placebo. Now I'm on week 3 and I SEE the gains in the mirror and on the scale. up 3 lbs.
 
im on day 5 of OL osta . no changes yet maybe a good pump but that might be the APS mesomorph too .

I ordered dermacrine in case lethargy hits me or my libido drops - my question is: do i need an AI for the dermacrine ?
and if so which one do you recommend ? transform or aromasin, letro etc ?
 
bomb said:
im on day 5 of OL osta . no changes yet maybe a good pump but that might be the APS mesomorph too .

I ordered dermacrine in case lethargy hits me or my libido drops - my question is: do i need an AI for the dermacrine ?
and if so which one do you recommend ? transform or aromasin, letro etc ?
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Exemestane all the way.

I doubt you'll need a "test base"
 
hehe i know my sources , thats not the problem. I am afraid of possible lethargy and lack of libido from the osta run therefore I got the dermacrine but now I am scared of estrogen sides lol.

just to be sure: i got some gyno since I was young which is noticeable as small lumps under both nips with little lactation (got better). Am i better off with letro and may it be possible to kill the lumps or is that impossible ?
 
bomb said:
hehe i know my sources , thats not the problem. I am afraid of possible lethargy and lack of libido from the osta run therefore I got the dermacrine but now I am scared of estrogen sides lol.

just to be sure: i got some gyno since I was young which is noticeable as small lumps under both nips with little lactation (got better). Am i better off with letro and may it be possible to kill the lumps or is that impossible ?
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RC prami or rx caber for prolactin. Ldopa maybe, but it's too weak imo.

Osta might aggravate preexisting gyno from what I've read.

Others can chime in, but I'd get your prolactin issues resolved first before cycling ostarine.
 
cjdesmit said:
kiss, I noticed better pumps right from the start but I didn't notice much else until almost the 4th week. Week 5 is when the hunger kicked in and I am now currently on week 6 @ 20mg.
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Probably will take awhile for the stuff to build up and show some effects. Most likely a very mild/weak androgen. Which makes me wonder if I would ever run it again since likely it will suppress a person quite a bit yet not provide much of a punch (rememeber, even very low doses of testosterone, nowhere near supra physiological amounts, can easily shut you down). So the risk to rewards ratio here thus far doesn't feel all that grear. Thus far that is, my opinion may change further into the cycle.
 
bomb said:
hehe i know my sources , thats not the problem. I am afraid of possible lethargy and lack of libido from the osta run therefore I got the dermacrine but now I am scared of estrogen sides lol. just to be sure: i got some gyno since I was young which is noticeable as small lumps under both nips with little lactation (got better). Am i better off with letro and may it be possible to kill the lumps or is that impossible ?
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This might be handy;
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Oh look, BSL is now releasing an ostarine only product.

I bet it's because it's become awkward to try to explain to people why they shouldn't use the PCT IV product for PCT (which they frequently get asked and the typically shake their heads and admit to what a woefully named product it is, lol).

10 mg per cap. 90 caps per bottle.
 
Well think I'm ready to go!
Had my blood test today!
Have ostar1ne!
Got my rc clomid and letro! (Man I hope they're good quality!)
So tomorrow morning I'll start! I'm staying conservative 15mg and do 6 weeks.
 
The Engineer said:
The EL from Viron might help with freeing up bound test, but it's not needed. For this purpose you can also try formestane if you have it, but again not needed. If you feel that you're getting shut down or if you see your nuts shrinking, you can supplement with Bulbine (i've seen this anecdotal report on EF) or fadogia (iforce tropinol xp or omega t-force). Fadogia is like a natural hcg, so it should keep your boys plump. Other than that just enjoy the cycle and don't forget to eat massive amount of protein and good carbs. I might utilize the extra bottle I have of tropinol xp starting either this week or next week, but it's all dependent on how I feel. The only extra "test boost" that I've been using on this cycle is dopadex pre-bed with zma. And ZMA is simply there because it puts me into a deeper sleep.
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Just a quick update. After all these weeks, I've been half dosing tropinal xp on cycle and it has kept my nuts hanging low, unlike my previous Ostarine cycle. 2 weeks left and I'll be eating with a vengeance in PCT.
 
jarod86 said:
Just a quick update. After all these weeks, I've been half dosing tropinal xp on cycle and it has kept my nuts hanging low, unlike my previous Ostarine cycle. 2 weeks left and I'll be eating with a vengeance in PCT.
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Nice, bro.

I was thinking of doing the same since I had a bottle of txp left over, but said eff it and wanted to see what ostarine would do on it's own.

ArA is great to stack with it if you have it.
 
The Engineer said:
Nice, bro. I was thinking of doing the same since I had a bottle of txp left over, but said eff it and wanted to see what ostarine would do on it's own. ArA is great to stack with it if you have it.
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Cheers. I went overboard and threw in ABE and xfa. Xfa finished. Now ABE for the remaining weeks on cycle.
 
guys has anyone noticed any hair loss with osta?im ready to begin my cycle and thats my only concern...goal isnt anything spectacular,thats why i chose osta..
 
I have not noticed personally. Hair loss can be similar to estrogen sides in the sense that some can blast till their blue in the face without any hint of gyno while some guys walk by some test and start growing the twins. Hair loss can be similar. You have guys who have the full head of hair despite heavy use, look at Cutler for instance, and then you have guys who loose their hair without touching anything.

Take me for instance. I started to loose my hair at 17. You would assume that because of this anything hormonal would make it worse and nothing could be further from the truth. No compound I have ran, osta included, ever exacerbated my hair loss.
 
BCseacow83 said:
I have not noticed personally. Hair loss can be similar to estrogen sides in the sense that some can blast till their blue in the face without any hint of gyno while some guys walk by some test and start growing the twins. Hair loss can be similar. You have guys who have the full head of hair despite heavy use, look at Cutler for instance, and then you have guys who loose their hair without touching anything.

Take me for instance. I started to loose my hair at 17. You would assume that because of this anything hormonal would make it worse and nothing could be further from the truth. No compound I have ran, osta included, ever exacerbated my hair loss.
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so the truth is,you never know.....noone can say for sure...
 
Considering the reason Osta was developed, I dont think its supposed to effect your hair. Although, its obviously not a perfect drug.



If you are really concerned with hair loss, you should basically avoid hormonals. You'll lose hair just stressing over what you can or can't run. ;)
 
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