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Tommurph STENADROL & TR3ST LOG

tommurph said:
I'll have to look into that in the spring, even though it will be cutting time, I think I'll bulk again!
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are you running anything for prolactin control? i got a big flare up on my last cycle with tr3st and DMZ, was running 2 pumps of form a day and it didn't help much. definitely gonna have to keep a serm or ai on hand for my next one. might even have to do a run of letro to get everything fixed back up. at a pretty low bf% so they show more than i'd like
 
Day 36
Getting out of breath easily, low on stamina but pumps are amazing! Worked Back/Biceps could only hit 5 supersets tonight.
A-close grip cable rows
B-BB Curls

1A-110x20
B-75x20
2A-110x20
B-75x15
3A-110x20
B-65x20
4A-110x20
B-65x15
5A-110x20
B-55x20

I feel like a pumped muscle turtle! Slow and tired!
 
Loneyboy said:
are you running anything for prolactin control? i got a big flare up on my last cycle with tr3st and DMZ, was running 2 pumps of form a day and it didn't help much. definitely gonna have to keep a serm or ai on hand for my next one. might even have to do a run of letro to get everything fixed back up. at a pretty low bf% so they show more than i'd like
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No, I didn't think prolactin was an issue with tr3st. My last cycle of epi/tren, I ran tren pretty high and didn't have any prolactin issues so I figured I would be good on that one, but if I get more issues I'll get some letro or caber. Thanks for the heads up on that one!
 
Nice job on the workout with the stamina being down
 
tommurph said:
Day 36
Getting out of breath easily, low on stamina but pumps are amazing! Worked Back/Biceps could only hit 5 supersets tonight.
A-close grip cable rows
B-BB Curls

1A-110x20
B-75x20
2A-110x20
B-75x15
3A-110x20
B-65x20
4A-110x20
B-65x15
5A-110x20
B-55x20

I feel like a pumped muscle turtle! Slow and tired!
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Pumped muscle turtle hahahahahhhaha
 
tommurph said:
Yeah man that's really how I felt!
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Lol! Nice!

So how much stamina did you lose when you got on cycle?

I always feel like compounds kill my shins when I'm on.
 
Tagger said:
Lol! Nice! So how much stamina did you lose when you got on cycle? I always feel like compounds kill my shins when I'm on.
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I get pumped really fast, and get tired and out of breath after about 30 min, more so since I upped my dose of Stenadrol. I'm actually looking forward to getting some stamina and intensity back during pct.
 
Tagger said:
Lol! Nice!

So how much stamina did you lose when you got on cycle?

I always feel like compounds kill my shins when I'm on.
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I always feel like they steal my oxygen. I can't do cardio worth a dang and my recovery between sets stinks.
 
tommurph said:
Yeah, same here, it's like I need twice as much time to do normal sets.
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What's with that? I started taking ALA to see if it would help. I think it does a little bit. But, my lungs still feel whimpy.
 
Hmmm. My cardio always seems good to go, it seems that my shins can't handle all of the weight I gain on cycle.
 
Tagger said:
Hmmm. My cardio always seems good to go, it seems that my shins can't handle all of the weight I gain on cycle.
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That's cuz you're all animal, Tagger. Your shins hurt because your running so fast and strong that your kicking dents into the treadmill machine. :-)
 
eddieaz said:
That's cuz you're all animal, Tagger. Your shins hurt because your running so fast and strong that your kicking dents into the treadmill machine. :-)
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Lmfao I just pictured someone like robocop or something bahaha.
 
Dang I just ate a 1050 calorie meal for lunch, I'm about to pop! Weight is at 19lbs gained today, and 32x32 jeans still fitting just fine!
 
tommurph said:
Dang I just ate a 1050 calorie meal for lunch, I'm about to pop! Weight is at 19lbs gained today, and 32x32 jeans still fitting just fine!
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Jesus. I'm so excited to run the DMZ and TREST.

I know your doing Sten but stem and DMZ are kind of similar (gains wise).
 
Tagger said:
Jesus. I'm so excited to run the DMZ and TREST. I know your doing Sten but stem and DMZ are kind of similar (gains wise).
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Bulking is fun man! Eat Big, Lift Big, Grow Big! I think I actually want to do another bulk in April.
 
tommurph said:
Bulking is fun man! Eat Big, Lift Big, Grow Big! I think I actually want to do another bulk in April.
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I love to eat food.

I am going to make like 5 lbs of chicken in the slow cooker each week lol.
 
tommurph said:
Yeah, that sounds goooood!
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Totally random but you know what pisses me off...

I know this kid who (thinks he's all that). Now, all of a sudden he thinks he's a competitive body builder.

He even competed in a show and (didn't come close to winning) and then blasted it all over Facebook about how he should have won and it was rigged.

So I commented on his photo and said, well man, you didn't come close to being as lean as that 1st place guy. Seriously it was like a 3% difference.

And he proceeded to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and if I knew so much why didn't I compete, blah blah blah.

And it's just dumb, because I know way more than him and I could compete but I don't. You would think he would at least be open to advice.

BTW he placed 5/6. Lol.
 
Tagger said:
Totally random but you know what pisses me off... I know this kid who (thinks he's all that). Now, all of a sudden he thinks he's a competitive body builder. He even competed in a show and (didn't come close to winning) and then blasted it all over Facebook about how he should have won and it was rigged. So I commented on his photo and said, well man, you didn't come close to being as lean as that 1st place guy. Seriously it was like a 3% difference. And he proceeded to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and if I knew so much why didn't I compete, blah blah blah. And it's just dumb, because I know way more than him and I could compete but I don't. You would think he would at least be open to advice. BTW he placed 5/6. Lol.
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That's one of those kids that need a government issued attitude adjustment! A lot of countries have a mandatory service time for all citizens, maybe that's what our country needs to straighten out the punks!
 
tommurph said:
That's one of those kids that need a government issued attitude adjustment! A lot of countries have a mandatory service time for all citizens, maybe that's what our country needs to straighten out the punks!
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We really should.

Would make this place a lot better, honestly.
 
Tagger said:
Totally random but you know what pisses me off...

I know this kid who (thinks he's all that). Now, all of a sudden he thinks he's a competitive body builder.

He even competed in a show and (didn't come close to winning) and then blasted it all over Facebook about how he should have won and it was rigged.

So I commented on his photo and said, well man, you didn't come close to being as lean as that 1st place guy. Seriously it was like a 3% difference.

And he proceeded to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and if I knew so much why didn't I compete, blah blah blah.

And it's just dumb, because I know way more than him and I could compete but I don't. You would think he would at least be open to advice.

BTW he placed 5/6. Lol.
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And 6/6 was an 80 yr old grandma.
 
tommurph said:
No, I didn't think prolactin was an issue with tr3st. My last cycle of epi/tren, I ran tren pretty high and didn't have any prolactin issues so I figured I would be good on that one, but if I get more issues I'll get some letro or caber. Thanks for the heads up on that one!
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yeah no problem man! not 100% sure if its due to prolactin but if I was running 2 pumps of form a day and still getting lumps, I didn't really expect it to be from estrogen. in second week of pct now and running a half pump of form a day, tapering up as pct goes on. it definitely seems to help now, so i'm still not 100% sure who the culprit was. i was only running trest at 75mg too.
 
Loneyboy said:
yeah no problem man! not 100% sure if its due to prolactin but if I was running 2 pumps of form a day and still getting lumps, I didn't really expect it to be from estrogen. in second week of pct now and running a half pump of form a day, tapering up as pct goes on. it definitely seems to help now, so i'm still not 100% sure who the culprit was. i was only running trest at 75mg too.
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Well I think on future runs of anything "wet" I'm going to use a strong AI and something for prolactin. Good to hear it's getting better for you in pct!
 
Day 38
Yesterday I worked Chest/Triceps. I went a lighter on chest and going to try new PR on Sunday. Yesterday cals were 3775, P204, F155, C405
Bench:
1-135x15
2-315x1
3-225x15
4-225x12
5-225x10
6-135x23

Tricep push downs
1-50x25
2-50x20
3-40x25
4-40x20
5-40x20

Arms felt so pumped like they were going to burst! Shoulder joints felt a little rough today, so I didn't try to go heavier. Sunday I will be trying for 365 on bench.

I'm thinking of running Tr1umph in the spring, just wondering how it compares to Stenadrol?
 
I have some tr1umph myself that I am eager to run. Haven't seen very many comprehensive logs on it though. From what I have seen it would be great for a recomp type cycle.
 
Bult said:
I have some tr1umph myself that I am eager to run. Haven't seen very many comprehensive logs on it though. From what I have seen it would be great for a recomp type cycle.
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Good to know! Some descriptions of other people's brands say it's comparable to superdrol!
 
Nice job on the workout and getting prepared for hitting that PR
 
tommurph said:
Good to know! Some descriptions of other people's brands say it's comparable to superdrol!
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Seems like everyone wants to compare their compounds to superdrol if the molecular structure is even remotely comparable. I'm happy with less sides though.
 
Just get Inhibit P for Prolactin support.

Made by SNS
 
^boom. sns inhibit p is great for controlling prolactin issues. Caber and prami are also good options, but I'd first see how inhibit p treats you before jumping to those, especially dealing with phs/DS
 
BigRed1974 said:
Nice job on the workout and getting prepared for hitting that PR
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Thanks big guy!
Bult said:
Seems like everyone wants to compare their compounds to superdrol if the molecular structure is even remotely comparable. I'm happy with less sides though.
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Haha, now that you say that, they ALL do compare themselves to superdrol!

Tagger said:
Just get Inhibit P for Prolactin support. Made by SNS
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Yeah, in the future I'm deffinately getting some!
 
Abe Lincoln said:
^boom. sns inhibit p is great for controlling prolactin issues. Caber and prami are also good options, but I'd first see how inhibit p treats you before jumping to those, especially dealing with phs/DS
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Right on brother! This cycle is winding down so I'm just low dosing nolva, and it doing the trick. Next time I'll have inhibit p also!
 
I don't see how this would be a prolactin issue. I had to fight gyno when I ran tr3st as well. It is almost certainly estrogen related, exemestane is your best bet. At 100 mg or above tr3st is inevitably going to convert heavily to estrogen, and I don't think transform is strong enough to handle it. exemestane is a suicidal inhibitor so it should be superior to adex. I have found this to be the case in my personal experience as well.
 
Bult said:
I don't see how this would be a prolactin issue. I had to fight gyno when I ran tr3st as well. It is almost certainly estrogen related, exemestane is your best bet. At 100 mg or above tr3st is inevitably going to convert heavily to estrogen, and I don't think transform is strong enough to handle it. exemestane is a suicidal inhibitor so it should be superior to adex. I have found this to be the case in my personal experience as well.
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I was going to run a low dose of elemenate with this cycle but just took the chance with transform, I know better for next time, but nolva seems to be clearing things up well.
 
On top of that you have strong SHBG binding effects with the methylstenbolone. So you are getting a lot of estrogen conversion from the tr3st and less SHBG to render it inert.
 
tommurph said:
I was going to run a low dose of elemenate with this cycle but just took the chance with transform, I know better for next time, but nolva seems to be clearing things up well.
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Yeah I think that Arimistane is even weaker than topical formestane. In fact I have read some studies that showed it to be relatively ineffective, not sure though.
 
Bult said:
On top of that you have strong SHBG binding effects with the methylstenbolone. So you are getting a lot of estrogen conversion from the tr3st and less SHBG to render it inert.
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It's been a great run regardless of the estro sides, have felt really good the whole time other than some hypoglycemic feelings occasionally. When I ran epi/tren I got sick as a dog with the worst flu in my life!
 
Bult said:
Yeah I think that Arimistane is even weaker than topical formestane. In fact I have read some studies that showed it to be relatively ineffective, not sure though.
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So exemastane is the best bet on cycle? I'll remember that. Do you think the dry compounds make people sick more than the wet?
 
I think so. There are two types of aromatase inhibitors, irreversible steroidal activators (e.g., exemestane) and reversible nonsteroidal imidazole-based inhibitors (e.g., anastrozole, letrozole). The first type, suicidal inhibitors, bond permanently with the aromatase enzyme, the second type only interfere competitively, this cause a greater chance for rebound as it take more time for new aromatase enzymes to be created than for existing ones to become free from the competitive bonding of type 2 inhibitors.
 
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