Article: Muscle vs. Fat: Who is the Real Meathead?

Since when do people generally hold fatties to any type of regard? No one respects them they're treated 100 times worse then bodybuilders. Most fat people are seen as there own disgusting race by skinnies
 
compudog said:
Ironic. 'Areas with low intelligence'? Like, the editor's desk at Iron Magazine, for instance?
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Well, he's right about the correlation between areas with poor education and higher rates of obesity.

For the record, education and intelligence are two different ideas. They do not mean the same thing.
 
I'll tell you one thing that not a myth, some of us bodybuilders are the most vain, self absorbed dbags on the planet. They can't even hold a real life conversation unless its about themselves
 
His basic assumptions are outright wrong. Not everyone is great at exercise, for the same reason not everyone is great at math or reading (or reasoning for that matter) or what have you. It's because evolutionary wise, it's not a trait that's been widely selected for. Clearly it has nothing to do with either intelligence or education. If it did, every university professor would be an IFBB pro and every undergrad would be competing in power lifting. Ridiculous right? So this guy is looking at the world through a bent lens (incorrect assumptions) and blaming everyone else for looking crooked. Boo hoo.

Edit: P.S. The correlation between education and obesity is spurious. In the first place, it only applies to Western nations, and as such, likely has more to do with poverty than education. And don't say poverty is linked to education, poverty is intrinsic to our economic system, it's like musical chairs, as long as there's winners there has to be losers.
 
^ I agree and disagree. But being that I'm on my phone it would take me 30 minutes to write out a response lol

Nice use of the word spurious. I consider myself a walking thesaurus and I rarely see that word used.
 
Type O Hero said:
^ I agree and disagree. But being that I'm on my phone it would take me 30 minutes to write out a response lol

Nice use of the word spurious. I consider myself a walking thesaurus and I rarely see that word used.
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Thanks. I'm a single parent so I spend most of my time around kids, occasionally I have to break out the grown up words just to remind myself I actually am one. :)
 
compudog said:
His basic assumptions are outright wrong. Not everyone is great at exercise, for the same reason not everyone is great at math or reading (or reasoning for that matter) or what have you. It's because evolutionary wise, it's not a trait that's been widely selected for. Clearly it has nothing to do with either intelligence or education. If it did, every university professor would be an IFBB pro and every undergrad would be competing in power lifting. Ridiculous right? So this guy is looking at the world through a bent lens (incorrect assumptions) and blaming everyone else for looking crooked. Boo hoo.

Edit: P.S. The correlation between education and obesity is spurious. In the first place, it only applies to Western nations, and as such, likely has more to do with poverty than education. And don't say poverty is linked to education, poverty is intrinsic to our economic system, it's like musical chairs, as long as there's winners there has to be losers.
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Education has a direction correlation to poverty, unemployment levels and health standards. I'll leave it at that. Politics and social engines cause gaps in education.
 
fueledpassion said:
Education has a direction correlation to poverty, unemployment levels and health standards. I'll leave it at that. Politics and social engines cause gaps in education.
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If everyone were as educated as humanly possible, say, everybody had an MD and a Phd, we would still need someone to clean the toilets, and there would still be unemployment. Why? Because unemployment is an unavoidable consequence of a market based labour pool. I could provide references, this was the topic I covered for my intermediate macro economics class as part of my degree (I have a business minor). So, in my opinion anyway, education has nothing to do with poverty. In reality, unemployment and low wage earning jobs are the direct cause.

Edit: This applies to poverty within a developed economy, not poverty in a developing economy! They are not the same thing, I doubt obesity is a problem for people suffering from poverty in a developing economy!
 
compudog said:
If everyone were as educated as humanly possible, say, everybody had an MD and a Phd, we would still need someone to clean the toilets, and there would still be unemployment. Why? Because unemployment is an unavoidable consequence of a market based labour pool. I could provide references, this was the topic I covered for my intermediate macro economics class as part of my degree (I have a business minor). So, in my opinion anyway, education has nothing to do with poverty. In reality, unemployment and low wage earning jobs are the direct cause.

Edit: This applies to poverty within a developed economy, not poverty in a developing economy! They are not the same thing, I doubt obesity is a problem for people suffering from poverty in a developing economy!
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I'm also saying unemployment doesn't correlate to poverty though. But education correlates to poverty. Plenty of stay-at-home wives around here that are unemployed but not in poverty but are also well-educated.

But I know plenty of well-educated people that are fat and unhealthy. It's our social engine that really is to blame regarding this topic. People just don't care about their health. They live like they are immortal and they are caught up in identifying themselves in cheap mud puddles for fulfillment in life.
 
fueledpassion said:
I'm also saying unemployment doesn't correlate to poverty though. But education correlates to poverty. Plenty of stay-at-home wives around here that are unemployed but not in poverty but are also well-educated.

But I know plenty of well-educated people that are fat and unhealthy. It's our social engine that really is to blame regarding this topic. People just don't care about their health. They live like they are immortal and they are caught up in identifying themselves in cheap mud puddles for fulfillment in life.
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I think they care it's just to hard to exercise regularly for some people. It's their laziness coupled with never developing a love for the benefits of the workout.
 
fueledpassion said:
I'm also saying unemployment doesn't correlate to poverty though. But education correlates to poverty. Plenty of stay-at-home wives around here that are unemployed but not in poverty but are also well-educated.

But I know plenty of well-educated people that are fat and unhealthy. It's our social engine that really is to blame regarding this topic. People just don't care about their health. They live like they are immortal and they are caught up in identifying themselves in cheap mud puddles for fulfillment in life.
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I wrote a bit more about this in another comment on a different article. This one started me thinking, and I came up with an evolutionary explanation. When we talk about evolution it's usually in terms of the early environment, because out of the 4.5 Ma of human history, most of it was in a pre-technology environment, and by technology I mean fire and stone tools. So basically at least 4 Ma with no fire and no tools at all, so that's where most of the traits of human nature would have been developed.

During that 4 Ma, the most common cause of death would have been starvation, I think that's a pretty well known and recognised fact. So that would have created evolutionary pressure that caused selection for the individuals who were best at conserving calories. IOW, the lazy motherf**kers. At the same time, there would have been a different evolutionary pressure that would have caused selection for physical fitness and strength, for the obvious reasons of hunting and defence, but since that would have run against the primary selection of calorie conservation, it would have manifested in only a small segment of the population.

Which brings us to today, when most people simply hate exercise (they conserve calories), but there is a small segment of the population who enjoys frivolously burning calories and are fit.

As a further note, this also explains the current "obesity epidemic"; it's a side effect of "the information age". In the past, there was a certain amount of exercise that was unavoidable, it was necessary to work and just plain live. But the rise of "the information age" (computer technology) has enabled people to sit on their butts a lot more, and being that their evolutionary nature compells them to conserve calories, they've embraced it.
 
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