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Blowing It UP with Msten, Epi and Tren

eddieaz said:
Starting to feel a bit likes it's trying to kick in. I tend to have some back pump issues. Have any of you ever tried something like this: Invalid Link Removed
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Sounds like a tedious task to "cleanse" lol

I may try this actually later on down the road..
 
tyga tyga said:
Sounds like a tedious task to "cleanse" lol

I may try this actually later on down the road..
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I was thinking about trying it once mid-cycle and then right at the beginning of PCT. May be a little welcome relief for the old liver. Lol
 
Sorry I haven't been updating in a few days. Friday's workout was good. I bumped to 12mg Msten and 60mg Tren this morning and I'll do another 8mg Msten and 30mg Tren tonight. Workout was great this morning. Starting to get hte ON feeling. Great pump today! I had to work out at a buddies gym because my regular gym opens late today.

Deadlift 15x135,10x225,8x275 <- my lower back has been bothering me the last week and a half or so, I think I tweaked it somewhere along the way. So, I stayed a little lighter than usual on these.
Sumo Deadlift 2x10x225
BO BB Row 3x8x135 parallel to floor
1-arm DB row 3x6x120
Seated Cable Row 15x150,12x170,8x190
Lat Pulldown 1x15x180,1x14x180,1x12x180
Unilateral Cable Curl 3x8x50
Incline DB Curl 4x10x35
EZBar Curl 1x13x70,1x12x70,1x12x70
Couldn't do farmer's walk. No room in his little gym or his backyard. Lol

The swole is definitely happening. Time to get some bulk on!!
 
Ok. The ON is definitely coming ON! I'm barely sore from that workout yesterday (besides my lower back), so it's time to start hitting it a lot harder. The workout is due to change next week and I'm really liking what's going on with tommurph. I'm thinking I may have to change the workout over to a 200 rep one like he's running for the next 4 weeks and see if I can do some damage in the gym...
 
eddieaz said:
Ok. The ON is definitely coming ON! I'm barely sore from that workout yesterday (besides my lower back), so it's time to start hitting it a lot harder. The workout is due to change next week and I'm really liking what's going on with tommurph. I'm thinking I may have to change the workout over to a 200 rep one like he's running for the next 4 weeks and see if I can do some damage in the gym...
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200 rep total for a muscle group? Dats a lot mayne
 
tyga tyga said:
200 rep total for a muscle group? Dats a lot mayne
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Yeah, but it should be good for a few weeks. I was thinking of doing GVT anyway. This may be more fun... or it may be a lot more painful. But, what the heck! It's worth a shot. No pain, no gain!!

Hey, Tyga, what's your favorite Myokem supp and why??
 
Just finished my shoulder workout today:

DB OH Press 15x40,10x50,6x65 (tried to do 70, but couldn't get it in position, LOL)
SM OH Press 3x10x80
BO DB Lat Raise 3x8x35
Rvse Pec Deck 3x10x135 (last set was 6x136 and 4x120)
Rope Front Cable Raise 2x10x40
Cable Lat Raise 2x10x40
Shrugs 30x100
Abs (5 mins) & cardio (12 mins)

Weights are going up a little bit from last week. Definitely feeling some ON now. I'm up to 208 now. BF is up about .6%, which I kind of expected. I'm thinking a lot of this is water gain. Hopefully I'll gain another 7 lbs or so before I start the Epi...
 
eddieaz said:
Yeah, but it should be good for a few weeks. I was thinking of doing GVT anyway. This may be more fun... or it may be a lot more painful. But, what the heck! It's worth a shot. No pain, no gain!! Hey, Tyga, what's your favorite Myokem supp and why??
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1. Nitramine-
-because it has 2g TMG and DOESNT have to be cycled. Has nootropics and other stimulants that give a strong focus but not over stimmed.

Then, MAGNITROPIN, ALPHADEX and Pyroxamine. Pyroxamine is last because I have no use for a fat burner and I haven't personally tried it yet. Looking at the label, you should get good appetite suppression with a strong focus because of the very mild caffiene and nootropics
 
tyga tyga said:
1. Nitramine-
-because it has 2g TMG and DOESNT have to be cycled. Has nootropics and other stimulants that give a strong focus but not over stimmed.

Then, MAGNITROPIN, ALPHADEX and Pyroxamine. Pyroxamine is last because I have no use for a fat burner and I haven't personally tried it yet. Looking at the label, you should get good appetite suppression with a strong focus because of the very mild caffiene and nootropics
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Thanks, Tyga! I may have to order a bottle of Nitramine for PCT (and maybe use a little on-cycle for those "dragging" days.

I try to support the guys that help me out. You're definitely on the list!!
 
eddieaz said:
Thanks, Tyga! I may have to order a bottle of Nitramine for PCT (and maybe use a little on-cycle for those "dragging" days. I try to support the guys that help me out. You're definitely on the list!!
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I appreciate it! I've got some samples of NITRAMINE lying around. If you want a sample just PM me your name/addy and I'll get em out.

If you could leave a small review in our section after you try it thatd be dope as well
 
Sorry for no post yesterday. Work got a little busy and I was wiped by the time I got home. Anyway, here's my leg day:

SM Leg Press 6x15x185 (only 20 sec's between sets)
Hack Squat Machine 4x12x460 (Had to drop set the last 2 sets)
Leg Curl 3x12x140 (Had to drop on last 2 sets)
Calf Raise 100xBW+90
Abs (5 mins)
15 mins of light cardio

Felt pretty good. Seems like hack squats are getting easier. I keep expecting the ON like I got with Epi, but I think Msten works a little different. Recovery seems to be really picking up speed. Usually I'm hurting the next day after legs, but I'm just a little sore this morning. Pumps are lasting a lot longer through the day and sometimes I get a pump just walking around. Pretty nice so far. I'm at 20mg Msten and 90mg Tren. I got my dermatren in yesterday and started using it last night. We'll see how that goes!

Question: I've been having some issues with bask swells. Taurine definitely helps. Do you think using Dermatren may help also?
 
It addition to the taurine you could try upping your potassium, maybe even foam rolling may help. Also how's your water intake? I've never had real issues with them there mild at there worst for me. I only get them doing certain lifts or shortly after I dose. I don't even take taurine...
 
stillchillin said:
It addition to the taurine you could try upping your potassium, maybe even foam rolling may help. Also how's your water intake? I've never had real issues with them there mild at there worst for me. I only get them doing certain lifts or shortly after I dose. I don't even take taurine...
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Thanks, stillchillin! I'll have to start monitoring my potassium.
 
Sorry I haven't been on in a couple of days. Thursday is my day away from the gym, but I busted this yesterday:

Bench (200 reps) 85@135,115@115
Incline Flye 30@35
Rope Pressdown 3x8x60
Skull's 3x10x75
Rvse grip Skulls 3x10x50
Abs (5 mins)
HIIT (12 mins)

Pretty good workout. Chest and tri's are still a little sore. I'm thinking I may need to bump something a bit. I'm not getting the results I'm expecting. I'm taking 20mg Msten and 90mg Tren. I'm thinking I'll bump Tren to 120. Suggestions?
 
eddieaz said:
Sorry for no post yesterday. Work got a little busy and I was wiped by the time I got home. Anyway, here's my leg day: SM Leg Press 6x15x185 (only 20 sec's between sets) Hack Squat Machine 4x12x460 (Had to drop set the last 2 sets) Leg Curl 3x12x140 (Had to drop on last 2 sets) Calf Raise 100xBW+90 Abs (5 mins) 15 mins of light cardio Felt pretty good. Seems like hack squats are getting easier. I keep expecting the ON like I got with Epi, but I think Msten works a little different. Recovery seems to be really picking up speed. Usually I'm hurting the next day after legs, but I'm just a little sore this morning. Pumps are lasting a lot longer through the day and sometimes I get a pump just walking around. Pretty nice so far. I'm at 20mg Msten and 90mg Tren. I got my dermatren in yesterday and started using it last night. We'll see how that goes! Question: I've been having some issues with bask swells. Taurine definitely helps. Do you think using Dermatren may help also?
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Same here with the ON from Epi. It seemed like on Epi it was like one day BAM, this stuff is for real! My current stack seems like a slow starter.
 
Nice work man! I would bump up the tren, if it seems too much you can drop back down, but when I ran tren/epi I ran tren pretty high and had great strength, and aggression though, lol.
 
tommurph said:
Same here with the ON from Epi. It seemed like on Epi it was like one day BAM, this stuff is for real! My current stack seems like a slow starter.
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That's EXACTLY how I feel. I did a Epi/Stano run and it was awesome. Woke up one day and couldn't wait to get to the gym, then didn't want to leave and couldn't wait to get back. Not so much on this run... :-(
 
What is your diet like. I have usually seen it when people are bulking they are not taking in enough calories to give them the growth that they are expecting. This is the end of week 2 for you?
 
McCrew530 said:
What is your diet like. I have usually seen it when people are bulking they are not taking in enough calories to give them the growth that they are expecting. This is the end of week 2 for you?
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It's actually mid-week 3. I've been right around 3500 cals. 250-300g protein.
 
tommurph said:
Nice work man! I would bump up the tren, if it seems too much you can drop back down, but when I ran tren/epi I ran tren pretty high and had great strength, and aggression though, lol.
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I'll bump up Tren next Wednesday. I'll be in Portland until Tuesday, and you know how hotel gyms are. :-(
 
I got that ON feeling right away with Msten and not until like weeks 3-4 with Epi/Tren. Funny how people react different. But you are running all 3 so...Don't sweat it man, it will probably surprise you all of a sudden. Recovery is a good sign things are happening though. Are you using anything for lethargy? That could also be why you felt so ON with Epi is because you were running Stano with it.
 
Dma378 said:
I got that ON feeling right away with Msten and not until like weeks 3-4 with Epi/Tren. Funny how people react different. But you are running all 3 so...Don't sweat it man, it will probably surprise you all of a sudden. Recovery is a good sign things are happening though. Are you using anything for lethargy? That could also be why you felt so ON with Epi is because you were running Stano with it.
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Ahh. Good point. I'm not really running anything for lethargy. I was going to get some dermacrine, but it seems to be sold out everywhere. Maybe I'll order something else and see if that helps. Some others mentioned that, but when I couldn't find any dermacrine, I kinda forgot about it.
 
eddieaz said:
Ahh. Good point. I'm not really running anything for lethargy. I was going to get some dermacrine, but it seems to be sold out everywhere. Maybe I'll order something else and see if that helps. Some others mentioned that, but when I couldn't find any dermacrine, I kinda forgot about it.
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I got mine from Nutri-Verse a little over a week ago. DId you try them? Other than that, how are things going now?
 
Things are going well. I was in Portland Monday and Tuesday, so I was unable to get my log in. In the spirit of tommurph, I designed a new workout to add a little volume to things:

Monday (at the Westin in downtown Portland)

Supersets (10 sets)
DB Curls (5x45.5x40.5x35.5x30) after 5 sets I dropped weights by 5lbs each
DB skullcrushers (15x30)
Then to finish things off:
cable curl 25x35
one-arm pressdown 25x27.5
Threw in a little abs for good measure

Tuesday (I stayed up late playing in Portland so I woke up late and not feeling too well, so I had to just get something done before my meeting)

DB Front Squat 7x15
3 min's abs

Back home today. A little drained from the travelling:

Supersets (10 sets)
DB Bench (15x60s)
Pullups (11@BW)

Finish with:

Incline Bench Press 25x95
Cable Row 25x170
Abs (5 mins)

I should have pushed a little more weght, but I was still run down from the 10 hrs of travel yesterday. All in all, I'm liking this volume. Thanks for the idea, tommurph!
 
eddieaz said:
Things are going well. I was in Portland Monday and Tuesday, so I was unable to get my log in. In the spirit of tommurph, I designed a new workout to add a little volume to things: Monday (at the Westin in downtown Portland) Supersets (10 sets) DB Curls (5x45.5x40.5x35.5x30) after 5 sets I dropped weights by 5lbs each DB skullcrushers (15x30) Then to finish things off: cable curl 25x35 one-arm pressdown 25x27.5 Threw in a little abs for good measure Tuesday (I stayed up late playing in Portland so I woke up late and not feeling too well, so I had to just get something done before my meeting) DB Front Squat 7x15 3 min's abs Back home today. A little drained from the travelling: Supersets (10 sets) DB Bench (15x60s) Pullups (11@BW) Finish with: Incline Bench Press 25x95 Cable Row 25x170 Abs (5 mins) I should have pushed a little more weght, but I was still run down from the 10 hrs of travel yesterday. All in all, I'm liking this volume. Thanks for the idea, tommurph!
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Yeah man! Those drop sets are killer! Great volume! Pump city!
 
Wow. Ok. Sorry I haven't updated in a few. Here's the workout from yesterday morning:

Supersets
Face Pull/DB Lat Raise

15x60/15x30,15x60/15x30,15x60/15x30,15x60/15x30,15x60/15x30,15x60/15x30,15x60/15x25,15x60/15x25,15x60/15x25,15x60/15x25

Arnold Press 1 set 25 reps@30 (<light weight, but there was nothing left) Lol

20 minutes cardio

This rocked my shoulders, I couldn't hardly lift my arm to drink my protein drink afterwards. It's a day and a half later and I'm still hurting... I got a couple comments about my shirt being too small at work today. I've had and worn this shirt at least once every 2 weeks for a couple years. Never gotten any comments before. Either it shrunk or maybe I'm growing a bit...
 
Good work man! Lot of volume, lot of pump! Your gonna bust through that shirt! It's good to hear things like that!
 
I like your cycle I was wondering about your goals are they overall or for this cycle? Just wondering because by my calculations to get to them it's like a 10lb loss in fat and 25lb gain in muscle which would be fairy hard on a cycle 2x as long as yours. Not knocking you or your goals at all your putting in hard work but 25gain in muscle is ALOT if your looking to do it especially in 8 weeks
 
mixedup said:
I like your cycle I was wondering about your goals are they overall or for this cycle? Just wondering because by my calculations to get to them it's like a 10lb loss in fat and 25lb gain in muscle which would be fairy hard on a cycle 2x as long as yours. Not knocking you or your goals at all your putting in hard work but 25gain in muscle is ALOT if your looking to do it especially in 8 weeks
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Those are my long term goals. For this cycle, I'm wanting to drop the 10lbs and replace it with muscle. I may add another week or 2 to this cycle if things are going good. I like to set my goals high so it pushes me harder. ;-)
 
tommurph said:
Good work man! Lot of volume, lot of pump! Your gonna bust through that shirt! It's good to hear things like that!
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Thanks, tommurph! I'm just trying to keep up with you.
 
Today was arms again. Bumped the weight a little bit this week.

10 supersets
20 db curls (5@45,5@40,5@35,5@30)
15 Skullcrusher @65lbs
Finished with:
25 ezbar curls @ 65 lbs
25 rope press downs @ 40
50 weighted oblique crunches (ea side)
50 machine crunches
12 mins treadmill

Another fun workout! I love volume!! I definitely got a "skin tearing pump" today.
 
Today is the last day of Msten. Tomorrow I start Epi. So, today I'll bust some legs... :nervous:
 
eddieaz said:
Today was arms again. Bumped the weight a little bit this week. 10 supersets 20 db curls (5@45,5@40,5@35,5@30) 15 Skullcrusher @65lbs Finished with: 25 ezbar curls @ 65 lbs 25 rope press downs @ 40 50 weighted oblique crunches (ea side) 50 machine crunches 12 mins treadmill Another fun workout! I love volume!! I definitely got a "skin tearing pump" today.
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Awesome! Makes me excited just looking at this workout!
 
Ok. I hate leg days. And this was a pretty brutal one:

Supersets
DB Front squats
Leg Curls

FS 15@45 (45lb dumbells, one in each hand)
LC 15@90 (the machine at my gym is messed up and the weights bind above 90) :-(
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@50 (This felt ok, just was causing a little pain in my messed up knee. Next week I'll try 50's all the way)
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 14@90
FS 15@45
LC 14@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90 (2nd wind?)
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 12@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
Leg Extensions 25@180
Seated Toe Raise 50@100
10 mins of walking on treadmill <- pretty slow since I couldn't feel my legs...
5 min stretching

All in all a pretty good leg day. We'll see how it feels later today!!
 
I'm thinking about ordering some AgeForce DHEA/Pregnalone patches on their 2for1 sale. Anyone tried these??
 
eddieaz said:
Ok. I hate leg days. And this was a pretty brutal one:

Supersets
DB Front squats
Leg Curls

FS 15@45 (45lb dumbells, one in each hand)
LC 15@90 (the machine at my gym is messed up and the weights bind above 90) :-(
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@50 (This felt ok, just was causing a little pain in my messed up knee. Next week I'll try 50's all the way)
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 14@90
FS 15@45
LC 14@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90 (2nd wind?)
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
FS 15@45
LC 12@90
FS 15@45
LC 15@90
Leg Extensions 25@180
Seated Toe Raise 50@100
10 mins of walking on treadmill <- pretty slow since I couldn't feel my legs...
5 min stretching

All in all a pretty good leg day. We'll see how it feels later today!!
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Holy crap, need more volume!!! LOL
 
tommurph said:
I'm sure we can call you Mr Rubber Legs now!
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That's for sure. Walked around work pretty slow today. Lol. Probably looked like a chicken too.
 
Chest and back this morning:

Supersets
Dumbell Bench Press
Bodyweight Pull ups

BP 15@70 (70lb dumbells, 140 total weight)
PU 11
BP 15@70
PU 11
BP 15@70
PU 11
BP 10@70,5@65
PU 11
BP 15@65
PU 11
BP 15@65
PU 11
BP 15@65
PU 15 (got a little crazy!!)
BP 15@65
PU 11
BP 11@65,4@60
PU 11
BP 15@60
PU 11
Incline Bench 25@95 (felt really light, but arms wouldn't go up. Lol)
Seated Cable Row 25@170
5 min's abs

Pretty killer workout. Chest shoulders and back have a nice little burn to them even an hour and a half after I finished. Fun! Fun! My legs are still killing me from yesterday, so I should feel like atruck ran me over later today. Lol
 
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