Proper Ancillaries and PCT for a Epi/Halodrol/Tren cycle?

Pimptastic

Pimptastic

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Starting an 8-week cycle soon, this will be my second PH cycle. Still pretty new to this stuff.

Weeks 1-4:
Epistane
Halodrol
1-Andro
17-ProAndro
Epiandro
(Don't remember the exact doses but all will be at the recommended doses on the bottles)

Weeks 5-8:
Same as above but adding Trenevar @ 60mg a day.

On cycle I'm running AI Sports Nutrition Cycle Support since two of the above PH's are methylated. Also will add a prolactin antagonizer (thinking about Inhibit-P) once I start the Tren.

PCT:
D-Aspartic Acid
HCGenerate ES
PES Erase Pro

Question #1: Since all of these are dry cutting PH's that claim zero aromatization, that means I don't need an AI on cycle, right? I chose these particular PH's since they claim not to aromatize.

Question #2: Are the OTC products in my PCT good enough or are they complete bunk? Is it possible to run a legit PCT with only over the counter products? Or do I absolutely HAVE to use Nolva?

For the record, when I was a teenager I ran the original Androstenedione (before it was banned) with absolutely no cycle support or PCT whatsoever; I just straight up YOLO'd that **** like a boss and still didn't get gyno. So I don't think I'm prone to gyno, but now that I'm older and wiser I recognize that I should still be more careful hence the PH choices above and seeking advice on ancillaries.

Thanks ahead of time.
 
That is a lot of compounds so you will be shut down. I would have a SERM since they are so easy to get and most members will tell you "no SERM, no cycle"

as far as the AI you could always add some transform in pct and taper down to prevent rebound gyno

And if your running tren you may want to look into some prolactin control like prami to run during

Maybe if you throw your dosages, stats, and prior cycles up here other would be more likely to chime in
 
Serms are really cheap and they are the most effective for pct, so might as well pick them up. Could look to add in bps new product Elimistane with pct as it has compared to nolva, but still I'd look into a serm.
 
You were worried about aromatization.. but have you ever think of estro rebound? Running hdrol&epi without serm is the best way to fck up. Goodluck
 
Inhibit P should work well for you.
 
1. I'd suggest only running 2 compounds your second time.

Epi tren or epi halo

2. Run tren at 90mg.. Might event want to go to 120mg the last 2 weeks

3. You can run for 8 weeks but I'd suggest keeping orals to 6 weeks.

4. Clomid and Nolva for pct especially if you decide to run 3 compounds

5. A low dose of ai on cycle is recommended, even 50mg of formestane.

6. Taper whatever ai you use (type 1 or 2) in pct. it will help prevent rebound by letting your body slowly produce more aromatase in response to lowered AI doses. If you stop "cold turkey" your body will see the low/crashed estrogen levels and produce more aromatase enzymes to balance test:estro ratio (homeostasis)
That's rebound.
 
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