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Test Boosters backed by bloodwork?

Cordeen

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I've been away from the scene here for sometime but I was wondering if any of the newer test boosters on the scene have blood tests to prove their effectiveness?

I'm on the hunt to try one out.
 
DAA and Bulbine (Prolensis) have studies.



I wouldn't expect much of anything if your hormones are still well within the normal range.

Edit: Actually, most ingredients in products have studies. Its just a matter of whether the study is relevant to us.
 
blacklac said:
DAA and Bulbine (Prolensis) have studies.



I wouldn't expect much of anything if your hormones are still well within the normal range.

Edit: Actually, most ingredients in products have studies. Its just a matter of whether the study is relevant to us.
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this^
 
I agree ...but I'm more wondering if there's any sponsored logs or in-house blood tests before and after a cycle.
 
I tested low this year for testosterone twice. I have never done steroids before. In May I tested 312. My doc prescribed me Axiron, but my insurance didn't cover it and after thinking about it, I didn't want to get it anyway. Having always thought, "Oh I can just add on muscle again whenever I finally decide to get back in the gym," I was kind of in a panic at the thought of not being able to lol. I didn't want to do illegal steroids so I took some prohormones but they completely annihilated my libido and I also had an AC sprain so I quit lifting in about July. I waited a month and got my T checked again and it came back at 295. After searching through message boards, I came across an article that showed the results of a study with Tamoxifen for a Testosterone booster. So I got some liquid research grade and took it for a month starting Sept. 5. Well, last week I had my T checked again and it came back at 500 with a free test level of 12.39. This being a different doctor, I had to actually send him a copy of my earlier results for him to believe me since he doesn't believe tamoxifen can raise testosterone.

It's probably not ideal to use as a testosterone booster from what I've read. Supposedly, it lowers IGF-1 or something and/or Growth Hormone. I don't remember the exact details on it. I really can't even testify to the benefits of it all that much because I don't actually feel any different and have still not been working out. I just wanted to share this info though because its based on my actual bloodwork not just me taking educated guesses at what it does. I'm curious how much it would rise in 2-4 months time, but I quit taking it because the doctor said I don't need anything based on my current results and that insurance wouldn't cover it if it's 500. Sorry for the essay here. This is my first post on a message board of this kind.
 
Forgot to mention my Free T levels.
In May when I tested at 312 for Total T, my Free T was 5.31 ng/dL and in August when my Total T was 295, my Free T was 6.2. Now last week I tested 500 for Total T and 12.39 for Free T.
 
I quit taking the tamoxifen so that my next test will be my real baseline results and that I can see how the injections make me feel. I'm not looking to get a T level of 1500, just something that makes me feel my real age (33) and not like 53 lol. But I do plan on lifting again once I get something.
 
Sorry, I keep forgetting to add stuff. The Tamoxifen has had a noticeable lowering effect on my libido the past month. It's nowhere near what the prohormones did to it, but its definitely something that makes me want to pursue injections rather than sticking with the Tamoxifen. The weird thing about the prohormone I took, is my friend took the exact same one I did and he said it had an opposite effect on him, so I guess everyone's reaction to it just varies.
 
Just curious. What made you choose tamox over clomid. I have read of guys sucessfully raising testosterone with clomid. Even when they come off. Supposedly you can raise your bodies set point.
 
I had read somewhere that clomid only works for a while but that nolvadex would keep working. That, and the fact that I had actually found a page that had blood work with actual values showing an increase in a study. Can I post a link on here without being banned or it getting blocked?
 
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First picture is after 4 weeks of clomid with no AI. My FSH and LH went from low 2.0 and test went from 288 in 4 weeks.
(Restart under doctor supervision)


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2nd pic is 4 months later on usp labs test powder (daa based)
Note the increaSe in total test but drop in FSH and LH, and increase in prolactin

Takeaway- clomid works well at modest doses but needs an AI, increases FSH AND LH

Daa- needs AI and prolactin control, increases test A LOT, may increase LH, does nothing for FSH.

I've been off hormonals for a year (aside from arimistane) and my total test has dropped to 588. LH and FSH hovering around 4-5. Estradiol around 40, prolactin around 11-12 (don't have the sheet in front of me) I was 25 at time of clomid restart
 
blacklac said:
DAA and Bulbine (Prolensis) have studies.



I wouldn't expect much of anything if your hormones are still well within the normal range.

Edit: Actually, most ingredients in products have studies. Its just a matter of whether the study is relevant to us.
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Agreed ..and both are available from SNS
 
chedapalooza said:
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First picture is after 4 weeks of clomid with no AI. My FSH and LH went from low 2.0 and test went from 288 in 4 weeks.
(Restart under doctor supervision)

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108170"/>

2nd pic is 4 months later on usp labs test powder (daa based)
Note the increaSe in total test but drop in FSH and LH, and increase in prolactin

Takeaway- clomid works well at modest doses but needs an AI, increases FSH AND LH

Daa- needs AI and prolactin control, increases test A LOT, may increase LH, does nothing for FSH.

I've been off hormonals for a year (aside from arimistane) and my total test has dropped to 588. LH and FSH hovering around 4-5. Estradiol around 40, prolactin around 11-12 (don't have the sheet in front of me) I was 25 at time of clomid restart
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Nice findings. Good to know stuff here.
 
Thought usp labs test powder had mucuna pruriens in it to combat the prolactin issues from DAA. does this mean that mucuna/ldopa is useless in combating prolactin raise??

chedapalooza said:
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First picture is after 4 weeks of clomid with no AI. My FSH and LH went from low 2.0 and test went from 288 in 4 weeks.
(Restart under doctor supervision)


Invalid Link Removed

2nd pic is 4 months later on usp labs test powder (daa based)
Note the increaSe in total test but drop in FSH and LH, and increase in prolactin

Takeaway- clomid works well at modest doses but needs an AI, increases FSH AND LH

Daa- needs AI and prolactin control, increases test A LOT, may increase LH, does nothing for FSH.

I've been off hormonals for a year (aside from arimistane) and my total test has dropped to 588. LH and FSH hovering around 4-5. Estradiol around 40, prolactin around 11-12 (don't have the sheet in front of me) I was 25 at time of clomid restart
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muree said:
Thought usp labs test powder had mucuna pruriens in it to combat the prolactin issues from DAA. does this mean that mucuna/ldopa is useless in combating prolactin raise??
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No its just not strong enough. After these bloods I added 1 cap of powerfull at bed (dopadex would work too) and it fixed things up nicely
 
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