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ELROCK said:
I hear ya bro, it does look like a really good product. Lets just hope it never comes off the sale price because the list price is $124!!!

What is the source of the ecdy because both Raph. and CV are mentioned in the TGB write up.
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Ecdysterone is derived from many sources, we are using 98-99% PURE Ecdysterone Extract, All the research showing an anabolic effect was done on this type of Ecdysterone. This is the one you want in an Ecdysterone supplement. The source is not as important as long as its a pure extract. There is no evidence that shows one source is better than another on google scholar/ pub-med/ euro-pubmed......With that being said ours is sourced from rhaponticum carthamoides.
 
IFN15 said:
Ecdysterone is derived from many sources, we are using 98-99% PURE Ecdysterone Extract, All the research showing an anabolic effect was done on this type of Ecdysterone. This is the one you want in an Ecdysterone supplement. The source is not as important as long as its a pure extract. There is no evidence that shows one source is better than another on google scholar/ pub-med/ euro-pubmed......With that being said ours is sourced from rhaponticum carthamoides.
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Good, I was really hoping you were going to say from rhap.
 
ELROCK said:
I hear ya bro, it does look like a really good product. Lets just hope it never comes off the sale price because the list price is $124!!!

What is the source of the ecdy because both Raph. and CV are mentioned in the TGB write up.
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Way to expensive for my budget unfortunatley.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Way to expensive for my budget unfortunatley.
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Well if any of these laxogenin products ever deliver like they claim it will be worth it. Lol I beleive the hype has been that
it is similar to anavar. Ha obviously none yet have lived up to the claim or sh!t would be all anybody talked about. I hope this product does though. As for the ecdy.. I took a ecdy prduct years ago and did notice some muscle hardness from it. Im curious to see reviews. If stuff lives up to claims that stack would be nuts. The follidrone solo worked great for me.
 
chedapalooza said:
So will this be available anywhere? And what about the laxogenin; does it require any pct at all- i know ecdy doesn't
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I found it at nutri verse. It's not hormonal and doesn't require pct. It's expensive, but when you cross reference the amount of ingredient per capsul it's a good deal. I'm going to order today or tomorrow, waiting to see if there's a Columbus Day sale.
 
I just did the math and it's a good deal because I use dermastrength now and like it for $100 a month since I use 2 pumps a day and that's for 200mg vs 300 in most wanted although I dunno if most wanted is absorbed as well

Edit I guess it's not just lax so hard to tell how much is in 2caps
 
ELROCK said:
I still believe it matters being sourced from CV or Rhap.
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and I would love to hear the reasoning for why aside from purity (which I haven't heard). Lets face it most of the russian literature using 99% pure was most likely using subjects whom were doping anyways, poor quality research on the topic (come on ecdy more powerful than dbol). The newer study looks promising but is far from RCT placebo v experimental


Let's not high jack this thread. This is about IFN's product and the other ecdy thread is here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/251675-ecdysterone-anyone-heard.html

aforementioned study here
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Contaygious said:
I just did the math and it's a good deal because I use dermastrength now and like it for $100 a month since I use 2 pumps a day and that's for 200mg vs 300 in most wanted although I dunno if most wanted is absorbed as well
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I think thats incorrect. I believe i read whats listed on the label is adding the cyclodextrin so perhaps IFN can tell us how much is lax and how much is ecdy.
 
chedapalooza said:
I've slated myself to run a bottle in January, and if I like it, through feb. until then I have too much stuff to work through, including my first ara run at the moment.. Otherwise id be all over it and would log
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Cool!

braskibra said:
and I would love to hear the reasoning for why aside from purity (which I haven't heard). Lets face it most of the russian literature using 99% pure was most likely using subjects whom were doping anyways, poor quality research on the topic (come on ecdy more powerful than dbol). The newer study looks promising but is far from RCT placebo v experimental


Let's not high jack this thread. This is about IFN's product and the other ecdy thread is here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/251675-ecdysterone-anyone-heard.html

aforementioned study here
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You can always apply to run a log and see for your self.
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Olympus Labs said:
I think thats incorrect. I believe i read whats listed on the label is adding the cyclodextrin so perhaps IFN can tell us how much is lax and how much is ecdy.
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There is 50mg of laxogenin and 100mg of ecdysterone. These are complexed with cyclodextrin yielding the numbers you see on the label.

Adding Dermastrength to give a extended release of laxogenin will enhance the effects. You could use the Mostwanted around the workout for a fast hit and the Dermastrength for all day release. I think that would be a sweet stack.
 
IFN15 said:
There is 50mg of laxogenin and 100mg of ecdysterone. These are complexed with cyclodextrin yielding the numbers you see on the label.

Adding Dermastrength to give a extended release of laxogenin will enhance the effects. You could use the Mostwanted around the workout for a fast hit and the Dermastrength for all day release. I think that would be a sweet stack.
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If this is 50mg of laxogenin per capsule, it's a better deal than Anogenin, which I have heard is the best laxogenin product on the market. Iron Forged & Blackstone Labs are affiliated, right? If so, I am guessing they'd be getting their laxogenin from the same source.
 
I don't mean to stir the pot, but what's the difference between your product and buying laxo (either as str3ngth or anogenin) and ecdy as RC and mixing it with alpha or beta cylicdextrin bulk powder or even an hbcd like glycofuse?
 
So much laxo talk, this is just inconclusive anecdotal feedback from me personally, 100 mg of laxo (from Anogenin, could be the same with Str3ngth, haven't compared) seems to increase my strength a bit when I use it. Noticeable towards the end of week two IMO.

Not conclusive at all as I don't have too much experience with it, just some preliminary observation.

Ecdy on the other hand, only ever used the iForce stuff (single ecdy product as well as plenty of Humanabol), didn't notice much of anything from the ecdy.
 
kissdadookie said:
So much laxo talk, this is just inconclusive anecdotal feedback from me personally, 100 mg of laxo (from Anogenin, could be the same with Str3ngth, haven't compared) seems to increase my strength a bit when I use it. Noticeable towards the end of week two IMO.

Not conclusive at all as I don't have too much experience with it, just some preliminary observation.

Ecdy on the other hand, only ever used the iForce stuff (single ecdy product as well as plenty of Humanabol), didn't notice much of anything from the ecdy.
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Same here on the iForce ecdy. Towards the end I was eating the bottle because I was failing to see anything
 
The Engineer said:
I don't mean to stir the pot, but what's the difference between your product and buying laxo (either as str3ngth or anogenin) and ecdy as RC and mixing it with alpha or beta cylicdextrin bulk powder or even an hbcd like glycofuse?
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Its not just that simple, they have to chemically take the compound and encase it into the cyclodextrin, this is a very extensive process. It would be nice to just sip some orange mango glycofuse with some str3ngth and call it a day. But thats not the case.
 
Garyboy said:
If this is 50mg of laxogenin per capsule, it's a better deal than Anogenin, which I have heard is the best laxogenin product on the market. Iron Forged & Blackstone Labs are affiliated, right? If so, I am guessing they'd be getting their laxogenin from the same source.
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No we Arnt affiliated with Blackstone.
 
The release date is pushed back until next monday, due to an error at the manufacturing plant. Sorry guys.
 
IFN15 said:
The release date is pushed back until next monday, due to an error at the manufacturing plant. Sorry guys.
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perfection takes time. Glad you're not affiliated with blackstone :) just sayin. lol
 
IFN15 said:
Yes very true lol.
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I like Blackstone, overpriced but their stuff is legit (and plenty of sales).

They are however kind of ludicrous putting out things like Metha Quad and that Blackjack, lol. Especially when they have things like "buy Blackjack at a discount, get a free bottle of Halo!" Yes, please give me another full bottle of Halo to go with my stacked 5 compound product. :P
 
kissdadookie said:
I like Blackstone, overpriced but their stuff is legit (and plenty of sales). They are however kind of ludicrous putting out things like Metha Quad and that Blackjack, lol. Especially when they have things like "buy Blackjack at a discount, get a free bottle of Halo!" Yes, please give me another full bottle of Halo to go with my stacked 5 compound product. :P
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I just remember coop ripping apart their angel dust label when it was first released. I tried a sample of the amp version and didn't care for it. Only product I have used from them.
 
Afi140 said:
I just remember coop ripping apart their angel dust label when it was first released. I tried a sample of the amp version and didn't care for it. Only product I have used from them.
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They are not exactly known for their non-enhanced products :P

It basically a company formed by two of the major IronMag Labs players. That should tell you what their main focus is.
 
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