Cherry Poppin: Test E, Anavar, Ipam and...

thyrod said:
Hard to base it off of taste. Yeah sketchy shot man. Control that e2 I think I'll get my bloods this Friday.
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I hear that.
Just know that pharma clomid made my tongue numb, these other two brands make my tongue numb and then the clomid that's the same brand as my bunk aromasin doesn't make my tongue numb and tastes very similar to the aromasin.
Probably the same liquid carrier.
 
Pharma aromasin and letrozole came in!

Going to be doing:
25mg ED aromasin
20mg ED nolva
2 pumps AM and PM formasurge

*****If no change in 4 days I'll add in some letro.

Pct begins in a week.

The HCG has brought the boys back (5th dose today) been doing 500iu EOD
 
Gonna drop the epistane (last day tomorrow)
 
Monday and Wednesday last 500iu of HCG
Still at 25mg aromasin
4 pumps of formasurge (100mg)

Will drop the aromasin to 12.5mg on thurs or Friday when pct starts
 
reps4jesus said:
Good stuff. Killed this cycle. You ever used hgh?
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No yet and prob won't for a few years. (That being said my local source is gonna get his hands on some soon haha... Sooo who knows how long I'll hold off)

Costs a pretty penny and I fear the side effects like organ growth causing a protruding stomach, big forehead acromegaly, carpal tunnel, suppressing natural GH production, etc
(probably more paranoid because I haven't done extensive research yet)

When I do choose the run it I'll prob be conservative at 4-6iu/ day
 
PCT starts in a few days:

Clomid 100/50/25/25 (split dosing equally between 2 different sources)
Nolva 40/40/20/20 (split dosing equally between 2 different sources)
Aromasin 25/12.5/12.5 EOD/ 12.5 EOD*

Peptide Use in PCT
Ipamorelin 150-200mcg 2-3x daily
Ghrp-6 200mcg Post Workout
CJC no Dac 100mcg (always used in conjunction with GHRP/Ipam)
MGF 200mcg (100mcg bilaterally) post workout 3-4x week


*bloods will be taken about 2 weeks into PCT to determine the Aromasin dose
 
Lethargy has been pretty strong the last 2 days.

Will start pct tomorrow.

Tried the ghrp 6 today because I reconstituted a bunch of peps to prepare for PCT.
Felt similar to ipamorelin but with a slight hunger increase and "hazy" hypoglycemic feeling.
Didn't feel the crazy hunger pains like some have reported.
 
Have you found ghrp and iPa to be effective? Im starting ghrp 2 this weekend most likely and ill add in ipa as soon as I buy it. and possibly one other peptide.
 
reps4jesus said:
Have you found ghrp and iPa to be effective? Im starting ghrp 2 this weekend most likely and ill add in ipa as soon as I buy it. and possibly one other peptide.
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Haven't tried the ghrp 2 yet.
Seems pretty similar to 6 but with less hunger stimulation.

I like the ipamorelin. It can make me tire throughout the day if I sit down for too long or don't stay active. I do like the recovery from workouts and it's helped my elbow repair after tough workouts.

The plan is:
Ipamorelin 2-3x
Ghrp6 1x
Cjc no Dac whenever the above are used

Going to add the ghrp 6 in pct for 2 reasons:

1. Much cheaper than ipamorelin
2. Stimulate hunger post workout.

I MAY even hit ghrp 6 2x and ipam 2x

Ghrp 6 AM and Post Workout.
Ipamorelin pre midday meal and pre bed.

Try and stimulate hunger in the morning when I (at times) can be lazy and not want to make a full meal.
I don't want to take the ghrp 6 before bed in case I start scarfing down unnecessary food/carbs before sleeping.
 
Pct starts today.

Got in my car to hit the gym for legs this morning. Battery problems!
A sign to skip leg day??? Haha jk

I'll hit legs later tonight.
 
Now that I'm in pct the workouts are still the same intensity (fast paced, drops and supersets)
But I'm cutting out a set here and there.

For example:
Did my regular shoulder routine but dropped 1 set from my side raise and front raise portion of the workout and added in a set for rear delts
 
Marsh1116 said:
How are you feeling? The first few days of pct after the test has cleared your system is tough .
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Libido is up and down but the clomid should get that back to normal after a week.

Feeling kinda lethargic. It's from a mix of things but if it's hot at night I have trouble sleeping even if I'm using ghrps.

The ghrp and aromasin and all these chemicals are probably making me feel hazy and tired during the day.

The ghrp6 helps a little with appetite but it's no where near the hunger pain effects I've read about.

Going to drop aromasin from 25mg/ day to 12.5mg/day starting Monday.

Will be getting bloods done at the end of next week to see where the estradiol is at.
 
Tried ghrp 6 first thing this morning so completely empty stomach

Had me shaky sweaty and feeling hypoglycemic haha held out for 30mins then dominated breakfast.
 
smshannon001 said:
Tried ghrp 6 first thing this morning so completely empty stomach Had me shaky sweaty and feeling hypoglycemic haha held out for 30mins then dominated breakfast.
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I don't think there is better word choice then that. I loved that feeling cus even if you were eating something that tasted like shot.... Ghrp makes you devour it
 
Yeah bro. I only get a small hunger increase if I dose it during the day or post workout cause realistically if you are eating 5-6 meals your stomach is rarely empty.

Might change the way I dose the peptides

Ghrp 6- AM and Post Workout (200-250mcg each)
Ipamorelin- pre meal and bedtime (200mcg each)


Used MGF so far in 6 workouts on calves, medial delt, biceps, pecs, teardrops, forearms (on back day).

Each time post injection I feel tighter and a very small throbbing /tender feeling.
Don't notice any changes but it's too early to tell.
 
Any of you guys know if tamoxifen or clomid will give false results on a blood test?

Maybe a stupid question but I've never had blood tests during pct just before and after.
 
Goliath1 said:
Yes, it won't be accurate..
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I'm assuming it will be slightly elevated right?

Just hoping it's down from the 352 from 2 weeks ago now that I've switched to pharma instead of bunk!
 
smshannon001 said:
I'm assuming it will be slightly elevated right? Just hoping it's down from the 352 from 2 weeks ago now that I've switched to pharma instead of bunk!
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My T & E2 levels are always a bit higher on a serm or shortly after..

I think my T levels were about 100 points over, I'd have to dig up the old paperwork to check on E2.. But E2 wouldn't be an accurate comparison as I always run my AI for a bit after..
 
Basically this blood work is (well I'm hoping it will)

Tell me if I need to alter the dose of my AI
And let me know how LH and FSH recovery is going.

That 352 a few weeks ago was a scare!
 
Blood work in:

LH FSH still shut down
Test levels low at 387

Good news on estrogen is it's down to 54 (range 7-42)
Going to continue with the AI but drop their doses as not to crush it.

Going to keep with 12.5mg aromasin ED for another few days then drop to 12.5 EOD til the end of pct.

Formestane has been used at 100-150mg ED. Going to taper it to 75mg for a week then 50mg then drop

Since LH and FSH aren't back up yet going to keep clomid at 50mg and nolva at 30mg

So pct plan:
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/30/20/10
Aromasin 25ed/12.5ed/ 12.5 EOD/ 12.5 eod
Formestane 150/100/75/50

Hopefully the clomid and nolva will get the FSH and LH back up soon and get those test levels up.
 
Goliath1 said:
Still way early bro, all in time..
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Wait so there's no magical instantaneous recovery pill??

Ya the main reason for the blood work was to check estradiol. And I'm happy with the results so far.
 
thyrod said:
Good **** man. Glad all is under control. How you feeling? You pounding food?
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Feelin all right . Still a bit lethargic. Hard to say if it's from fluctuations in hormones or the ghrp/ipamorelin.

Did a "push day" yesterday. A little different than my usual individual body part split.

Started with calves. No amount of mgf is making them grow haha

Went to the heaviest dbells our gym has 125lbs For dbell bench: warm up 30, 60
Working 90, 110, 125, 125
Smith inc bench (pyramid strip set)
Altered Mechanical advantage set of dbell flys
HS shoulder press heavy, only 1 dropset
Side raise (high volume)
50s to 40s to seated 30s (2sets) third set added seated 20s
Incline skull crushers
Seated one arm overhead ext
Then my typical giant set of cable work for triceps


Was planning on decreasing volume but I'm so accustomed to the fast paced, high volume lifting that I usually find myself doing drops/strips/supers towards the end of the workout.

Like I said before I have knocked off 1 set of giant sets for each workout to decrease volume.

Gonna hit legs and maybe some lats tonight.

Tomorrow will be a light day of biceps calves abs.
 
thyrod said:
Consider lifting eod due to failure of recovery. Also how much of a surplus are you eating?
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Haha I hate taking days off bro!
I feel great in the gym and still feel pretty strong. (Hit 685x2 on hack squat tonight, felt good to throw some weight around)

You could be right though and I may not be recovering as well as I think I am.

Daily routine:
Usually I pin peptides at 630/7am and eat breakfast 30min later with half my pct products
Peptides again either at 930 or 12 depending on my schedule that day. Again eating 30min after
Eat again 230pm
Double Protein shake at 530 pm
Gym at 6pm
Peptides post workout at 7ish
Dinner 730
Last meal 930 and the rest of pct products
Peptides before bed 1130

Usually feeling tired/lethargic around 11-noon.

I need to eat a better meal at 530 instead of a shake, but hate going to the gym on a full stomach.

I'll have to re-enter my recent diet to be sure of my surplus. I do need to eat a bit more though. How many sweet potatoes n chicken can one person eat in a day though haha

Legs
Leg ext 2 warm up 4 working
Single leg press 1 warm up 3 working
Leg curl 1 warm up 3 working
RDL (light only 135 big squeeze 15+ reps) 4 working
Barbell lunge 3 pyramid set
Hack squat 2 warm ups with 2 plates either side
Then 4 plates for 10, then 5 for 8, then 6 for 5, then added 25s for sets of 2-3 until I hit 685 lbs

Back felt surprisingly good on the barbell lunges. Went fairly light set 1 95lbs set 2 145lbs set 3 (belt) 195lbs
 
Yeah recovery is rough since all your hormones are ducked. During pct I gain the most mass >.< my cycle is coming to an end soon. Cycle was a major fail due to my stomach being so ****ed +school and work. But ey it happens
 
thyrod said:
Yeah recovery is rough since all your hormones are ducked. During pct I gain the most mass >.< my cycle is coming to an end soon. Cycle was a major fail due to my stomach being so ****ed +school and work. But ey it happens
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You gain the most mass in PCT?

How's that!?!?


I'll go easy today: biceps calves abs
 
Hit 400mcg of MGF into calves
100 on each side of the gastrocs

Pretty sore like I have DOMS after only 2 hours

I command them to grow!!!
 
Noticing some clicking in my fingers /hands they feel arthritic (or what I think it would feel like)

It's not painful, I'm just aware of it. They almost feel swollen a bit.

I'm thinking it could be 1 of 2 things:
1.Estrogen levels continuing to lower causing dry joints
Or
2.The addition of the ghrp 2/6 to the ipamorelin
 
Took a day off per advice by thyrod.

Gonna hit chest tomorrow
Legs Friday
Back Saturday
Shoulders Sunday
 
smshannon001 said:
You gain the most mass in PCT? How's that!?!? I'll go easy today: biceps calves abs
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Last cycle I ended at about 210ish after pct i was 225ish
I rather keep my muscles and gain fat since it's easy for me to cut since I don't have an appetite ever. My surplus dying pct was 500-1000over
 
But all in all you feel fine? No negative thoughts or sleepiness? During pct I nap easy! Which I like since I normally only sleep 4 hours a night lol. I'm always wired
 
thyrod said:
But all in all you feel fine? No negative thoughts or sleepiness? During pct I nap easy! Which I like since I normally only sleep 4 hours a night lol. I'm always wired
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Yeah buddy.
Gonna try and add that extra meal in where the double shake is, should help a bit.

Dono what that mgf did to my calves but **** they're still sore!

Dude +1 for the naps. I love naps.
Now that my girl has been gone I'm allowed to take naps haha. Always gives out to me when I want to nap !
 
Elbow was a little tender but still got 2 sets in with 120 dumbbells after 2 warm up sets and working sets of 85, 100, 110
Strength and endurance is still there even towards the end of the workout

Legs tomorrow.

Dropping aromasin to 12.5 EOD starting tomorrow
 
Minor setback.

Felt fine on deadlifts, warmed up 135-185-225-315 then wanted to do a few sets of 5 reps and went to 405. On the third rep felt multiple pops not a big pop in the lower back. More grinding feeling. Like someone cracking your back.

Dropped back to 225 for 2 more sets with higher reps. Pretty stiff last night and still this morning.

Pissed cause I had just started getting back into squats and had been slowly working up to my last DL competition weight.

Will find a way to work around it. Maybe skip presses for shoulders today.


Pct plan-

Last week of:
Clomid 50
Nolva 30
Aromasin 12.5 EOD

Then 1 final week at:
Clomid 25
Nolva 20
Aromasin MWF
 
thyrod said:
Fuark that sucks brother keep updating!
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It's a bit stuff but the pain is gone. I talked to my buddy who is a powerlifter and he thinks I'll be gtg and has experienced similar pain/noises in the past.

Some pharma clomid came in.
I'll still be taking 50mg of the research chem clomid and adding 50mg of pharm clomid at night for a week.
Then drop to 25/25 for the rest of pct.

One final week of aromasin at 12.5 EOD.

Strength is stable and lethargy is less of a problem. Think these hormones are getting under control.
 
Hey guys needing some help i just posted a thread called first cycle ever and an looking for some info..I'm new to the site and any info would bee helpful..I'm looking to obviously start my first cycle..thank you
 
thyrod said:
Hey how's it going?
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Finishing up pct now.

Will get bloods redone probably 3 weeks post pct to check recovery


All the estrogen sides were taken care of, sensitivity gone, bloat down, less lethargy


In the gym I am happy with my lifts. I haven't lost much if any weight on any lift.

So right now I'm taking:
Clomid 50 (kept at 50 instead of dropping to 25, why??? Because I could haha)
Nolva 20
Aromasin 12.5 EOD (only 3 doses left)
Ghrp-2 200mcg 2x daily (some days I use ghrp-6 depending on if Ima need the more aggressive appetite stimulation)
Ipamorelin 200mcg 2x daily
Ghrp/ipamorelin doses taken with 100mcg mod-grf 1-29 (cjc no dac)
Mgf 200mcg bilaterally post workout (100mcg each side) usually only on calves, biceps, forearms, delts... But I've done it on upper pecs and teardrops too haha PIN CUSHION


Not to sold on the MGF yet. I think it looks great on paper and by theory it should do wonders.

I may try and run it with igf-lr3 (see below)

Pre workout igf lr3 bilaterally
Post workout MGF bilaterally
Peg-MGF every other day before bed



Injures:
Lower back has been feeling better, but I haven't done squats my last 2 leg days. Been liking barbell walking lunges recently
I can say enough how happy I am about the peptides helping with recovery, especially in the elbow. It still gets sore after 2 upper body days in a row but I feel like the healing is almost overnight at times!
 
I'm glad your cycle was a success!

I recall you having nipple issues with ghrp? Is that correct? If so did you fix all that?
 
thyrod said:
I'm glad your cycle was a success! I recall you having nipple issues with ghrp? Is that correct? If so did you fix all that?
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It was the bunk ai I had that got my estro up to a lovely 352 Switched to pharma and it all went away. I didn't see any changes when I was using 200mcg a day of ghrp2 or 6 Now I use them 2x at 200mcg so for precautionary reasons I hit .25 pharma prami before bed. Helps me fall asleep faster too



Edit:
I hit the sensitivity and itchy ness with 150mg of formestane and 25mg of aromasin for 2 weeks then tapered down.
Now I'm a few days from my last day of pct and only at 50mg form 50mg clomid and 20mg Nolva
Taper was:
Clomid -/100/100/50/50
Nolva -/40/40/20/20
Form 150/150/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5 ED/ 12.5 EOD / 12.5 eod
 
I'm having problems with my right nipple and I know it's not estrogen cus I'm running .25 ed of Balkan Adex. I think it's the ghrp/cjc. Never had this issue before but I'm gonna go ahead and run high amounts of b6 + inhibit p to rule out if it's progesterone
 
thyrod said:
I'm having problems with my right nipple and I know it's not estrogen cus I'm running .25 ed of Balkan Adex. I think it's the ghrp/cjc. Never had this issue before but I'm gonna go ahead and run high amounts of b6 + inhibit p to rule out if it's progesterone
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How are you liking ghrp/cjc?
What dose you running at?

I'll keep taking a low dose of prami... Maybe cut back to .125mg ed before bed
 
100cjc 200cjc ~ lol What's your mixing content ratio? I dident bother calculate it. Just ml of bac in each. >.< lazy like that I love the hunger aspect that's the main reason I'm using em

What dose of prami where you running at first?
 
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