Better Bulker - Tr3st + M1A or Tr3st + Dbol?

TruthWalker

TruthWalker

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Thinking of running, after my current cycle (superdrol/epi/proviron) + pct + time off, an 8 week bulker consisting of 20mg M1A and 50mg Tr3st, along with 50mg Proviron...was gonna run sustanon, but have decided against going injectable just yet. So what are your thoughts on this as a bulking cycle vs. say 20-30mg of dbol and 50mg Tr3st? I will have the 50mg Proviron no matter what cycle I run. Assume diet, training, ancillaries, and pct are all on point, what would be my best bulking option? Open to other suggestions as well...have access to m1t, superdrol, 19 nor tren, etc.
 
TruthWalker said:
Thinking of running, after my current cycle (superdrol/epi/proviron) + pct + time off, an 8 week bulker consisting of 20mg M1A and 50mg Tr3st, along with 50mg Proviron...was gonna run sustanon, but have decided against going injectable just yet. So what are your thoughts on this as a bulking cycle vs. say 20-30mg of dbol and 50mg Tr3st? I will have the 50mg Proviron no matter what cycle I run. Assume diet, training, ancillaries, and pct are all on point, what would be my best bulking option? Open to other suggestions as well...have access to m1t, superdrol, 19 nor tren, etc.
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You sound crazy man
 
Yodambomb said:
You sound crazy man
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Haha, I may very well be crazy :) I also believe that liver toxicity is overblown, and its ok to run orals for longer than 6 weeks as long as proper cycle supports are run along with the cycle. I believe 6-8 weeks is the optimal oral cycle length, with 8 weeks being the maximum. This allows for maximum gains, increases the probability of keeping gains, and while maximizing liver stress, is not utterly detrimental to one's health. Liver values would be expected to be higher than baseline, but not so high that health effects are experienced.
 
TruthWalker said:
Haha, I may very well be crazy :) I also believe that liver toxicity is overblown, and its ok to run orals for longer than 6 weeks as long as proper cycle supports are run along with the cycle. I believe 6-8 weeks is the optimal oral cycle length, with 8 weeks being the maximum. This allows for maximum gains, increases the probability of keeping gains, and while maximizing liver stress, is not utterly detrimental to one's health. Liver values would be expected to be higher than baseline, but not so high that health effects are experienced.
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Yeah with plenty if TuDca I don't trip on the liver , it's more of the BP , I don't get it that bad at all on DMZ , literally like 3 to 5 points higher than normal after pct . Like 130/80 exactly and I jumped 10-15 pounds in 3 weeks off a low dosed DMZ cycle and after pct kept it all . But this time I plan on running the real trest (im) kinda nervous just because of having that extra belly fat with the conversion even with the legit AI and Letro for emergencies . And estrogen could probably raise the BP I'm not sure but if I looked it up I'm sure that's what it would say ..
 
TruthWalker said:
Haha, I may very well be crazy :) I also believe that liver toxicity is overblown, and its ok to run orals for longer than 6 weeks as long as proper cycle supports are run along with the cycle. I believe 6-8 weeks is the optimal oral cycle length, with 8 weeks being the maximum. This allows for maximum gains, increases the probability of keeping gains, and while maximizing liver stress, is not utterly detrimental to one's health. Liver values would be expected to be higher than baseline, but not so high that health effects are experienced.
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Along with DMZ at 45mg for 6 weeks , I'm tryna get Godzilla big
 
TruthWalker said:
Thinking of running, after my current cycle (superdrol/epi/proviron) + pct + time off, an 8 week bulker consisting of 20mg M1A and 50mg Tr3st, along with 50mg Proviron...was gonna run sustanon, but have decided against going injectable just yet. So what are your thoughts on this as a bulking cycle vs. say 20-30mg of dbol and 50mg Tr3st? I will have the 50mg Proviron no matter what cycle I run. Assume diet, training, ancillaries, and pct are all on point, what would be my best bulking option? Open to other suggestions as well...have access to m1t, superdrol, 19 nor tren, etc.
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I would do one of those orals and run with it , combining them doesn't do anything IMO . I think that stacking orals makes no sense , go with sd , it's a dry compound and it bulks even more than DMZ does supposedly
 
I'd go with TR3ST (or DermaTREST) and DYMETHAZI9E (or Stenabol) too. TR3ST + Dbol sounds like gyno to me.
 
TruthWalker said:
Haha, I may very well be crazy :) I also believe that liver toxicity is overblown, and its ok to run orals for longer than 6 weeks as long as proper cycle supports are run along with the cycle. I believe 6-8 weeks is the optimal oral cycle length, with 8 weeks being the maximum. This allows for maximum gains, increases the probability of keeping gains, and while maximizing liver stress, is not utterly detrimental to one's health. Liver values would be expected to be higher than baseline, but not so high that health effects are experienced.
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Have you gotten bloodwork?
 
srblan said:
Have you gotten bloodwork?
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Yes, blood work came back fine after the conclusion of pct of the last 6 week cycle I ran which was sd/tren/stano, everything was within normal range on the last day of a 4 week pct. I wouldn't run the risk of longer oral cycles if id not had blood work done and it came back ok.
 
TruthWalker said:
Yes, blood work came back fine after the conclusion of pct of the last 6 week cycle I ran which was sd/tren/stano, everything was within normal range on the last day of a 4 week pct. I wouldn't run the risk of longer oral cycles if id not had blood work done and it came back ok.
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Cool, just wanted to be sure. There are differing levels of expertise on here and some people are more diligent about bloodwork than others :). While liver toxicity does tend to be a bit overemphasized, cholestasis is still a possibility, so still good to get bloods and protect with UDCA/TUDCA/whatever else.
 
srblan said:
Cool, just wanted to be sure. There are differing levels of expertise on here and some people are more diligent about bloodwork than others :). While liver toxicity does tend to be a bit overemphasized, cholestasis is still a possibility, so still good to get bloods and protect with UDCA/TUDCA/whatever else.
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How do you find UDCA as well ?
 
So, are we thinking Tr3st + MSten or Tr3st + M1A is the better bulker? This would be for pure size, over the course of a 6-8 week cycle. Assuming a 15-20% conversion rate on the M1A, that would be like running 4-5mg m1t.
 
Conversion rates are bull****.

M1A may be bettter bulker but I'd run it for only 4 weeks.
 
Well that's two votes for tr3st and DMZ...thank God for Olympus Labs :) why would you go with the dmz over say the stenabol?
 
So, most likely going with 7 weeks of 50mg tr3st + 45mg dmz + 50mg proviron, with an additional 10 days of tr3st and proviron at the end of the cycle. That should do me nicely for a bulker. Will eat +500 calories above maintenance and Pct will be 40/40/20/20 nova + 8 weeks of lgi rehab + Anabeta elite + Ostar1ne. Will log it if there is interest. Check out my current log of 6 weeks of 10mg SD + 36mg Epi + 50mg proviron :)
 
TruthWalker said:
So, most likely going with 7 weeks of 50mg tr3st + 45mg dmz + 50mg proviron, with an additional 10 days of tr3st and proviron at the end of the cycle. That should do me nicely for a bulker. Will eat +500 calories above maintenance and Pct will be 40/40/20/20 nova + 8 weeks of lgi rehab + Anabeta elite + Ostar1ne. Will log it if there is interest. Check out my current log of 6 weeks of 10mg SD + 36mg Epi + 50mg proviron :)
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Beast !!!!
 
Well I switched it up. Decided to go ahead and get the M1T since I've never tried it before, and I've run DMZ before with limited success. will dose M1T at 7.5mg for 2 weeks followed by 15mg for 4 weeks, with TR3ST and Proviron for 60 days at 50mg each. Looking forward to this one.
 
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