Kickstart's EP1C log with Olympus Labs

terry86 said:
Are took taking x1 or x2 tabs on non workout days?
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for the EP1C I take 2 on off days. 1 in the morning and 1 at dinner.
 
terry86 said:
Cheers, how is it for you?any Size gains?
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still a little early to tell. My back looks a little bigger and vascularity is insane! Biceps look a little bigger. Good stuff though for a natty product!
 
Today will be my 13th day on!
 
I have a hypertrophy day today! I'm going to stick with my normal bench and incline sets but all my auxiliary lifts I'm going to go through the roof with volume ! I like to shock my muscles a little but. Should be crazy pumps today!
 
Kickstart7 said:
I have a hypertrophy day today! I'm going to stick with my normal bench and incline sets but all my auxiliary lifts I'm going to go through the roof with volume ! I like to shock my muscles a little but. Should be crazy pumps today!
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GET AFTER IT MAN! Drop sets, supersets, short rest periods, just kill it!
 
iThrow said:
GET AFTER IT MAN! Drop sets, supersets, short rest periods, just kill it!
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will do man!! Adding in the DS today! Superpumpsssssssss
 
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Chicken steak and brown rice all mashed into one!

Busy day and a quick dinner. Today's update coming tonight!
 
Day 13 on EP1C :

Rough day of work and prepping to go back to school but I got a solid hypertrophy chest/tri day in! SO. MUCH. VOLUME.

I felt the endurance as usual ( still dosing 2 EP1C preworkout 600 mg ) and the pumps were pretty mind blowing today! I could barely drive home! Almost had to ask my sister to get me! Lol

On a side not I added dermastr3ngth today ( 2 full pumps - one after my shower and one preworkout 200 mg ).

Highlights of the day ( workout is too long to list or read lol)

I got 225 11 times after my hypertrophy barbell flat bench workout. Usually I can only get a consistent 8. I'm gonna give EP1C a little bit of the credit for this! Endurance was up high for that 225 set!
 
I can't wait til the DS kicks in for you man. The endurance is going to be stupid!
 
Spaniard said:
I can't wait til the DS kicks in for you man. The endurance is going to be stupid!
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same man! I noticed increased sweating yesterday like you said! I'm hoping I don't lose weight on these supps but I don't think I should! Really looking lean!
 
Kickstart7 said:
same man! I noticed increased sweating yesterday like you said! I'm hoping I don't lose weight on these supps but I don't think I should! Really looking lean!
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Here's the thing, if you start to lose, you're more than likely shedding fat, in which case, that's awesome! If you do start to lose just increase your protein intake 50 g or split between some pro and whatever macro you choose :)
 
Spaniard said:
Here's the thing, if you start to lose, you're more than likely shedding fat, in which case, that's awesome! If you do start to lose just increase your protein intake 50 g or split between some pro and whatever macro you choose :)
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ok will do :)
 
Kickstart7 said:
ok will do :)
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my brother just gave me bottle of new erase pro. Any benefit of throwing it in with EP1C and DS for lean bulk? If not I'll just save it:)
 
edje007 said:
What's in the new version?
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EP1C is treating me great though so idk if I'd throw it in. Got it for free from my bro so I pondered if it would be something worth stack with EP1C and DS. It doesn't have aromistane like the first.
 
EP1C day 15:

Been extremely busy lately but today is a scheduled rest day! Really looking full, even fuller than on cycle. All I'm using is EP1C and DS, se lifting style and eating the same amount, so I'm attributing this full feeling to this!

Heavy upper body day on Monday, I'll have pics and full workout after! :)
 
Iv gotten the best pumps of my life from natty supps
Well...as natty as I can get lol pretty sure I had 20mg osta in that stack ;)

Celtic labs shot
20mg osta
1.5g ArA
1g agmatine

Do arms. And you'll look like a monster for about 12 hours lol
 
reps4jesus said:
Iv gotten the best pumps of my life from natty supps Well...as natty as I can get lol pretty sure I had 20mg osta in that stack ;) Celtic labs shot 20mg osta 1.5g ArA 1g agmatine Do arms. And you'll look like a monster for about 12 hours lol
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that looks like a good stack for pumps :) I do have osta laying around ... Tempting just to randomly throw it in lol
 
Glad you got a little downtime to rest and relax!
 
Nothing like swole triceps bursting out your sleeves!!
 
Day 16 on EP1C:

Today was certainly an EP1C day! Endurance and strength are up tremendously! I can't tell you how many compliments I've received about how good my arms look in the last 3 days. Some old man at a restaurant came and asked me if I was a pro football player and commented on how tremendous of a build I have. All the guys at my gym are taking notice too, more so then when I was on halo.

I will admit I feel as if I look bigger than when I was on halo, not dissing it or saying this is more powerful but it's just how I feel!

Today was a power chest / tricep day

Highlights: my workout today was my standard Monday workout except.... I managed to get 305 on my barbell flat bench, I haven't been able to do this since on cycle! The EP1C is really convincing me I need more, and I'm sure my recent addition if dermastr3ngth can get some credit too!
 
Can EP1C or DS be used year round without the body adapting?! Anyone here
 
Halo is very mild tho bro lol run a strong cycle and natty supps can't touch them ;) sounds like the combo of these two is really good though
 
Nothing like compliments to put a smile on your face! Let's you know your hard work is really paying off! :)
 
reps4jesus said:
Halo is very mild tho bro lol run a strong cycle and natty supps can't touch them ;) sounds like the combo of these two is really good though
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Ya but we're talking about no PCT here, no suppression, no hepatic concerns, no negative health impact. Mild or not, any non-hormonal supplement that can hang with a hormone is leagues above the rest. Cha feel?

Looking swole in the new avi bro
 
BigRed1974 said:
BUMP!!
Curious about this as well. I will be running this later this year after I'm done with my Diabolix.
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Kick start text me this yesterday and I answered. Sorry, I should've answered it here as well

I wouldn't see any reason that these couldn't be ran for a decent amount of time. What you have to remember is that the body will try to adapt to whatever you are taking. That being said I recommend cycling everything. There's no reason you couldn't go 8 on 4 off, 12 on 4 off etc. I always recommend taking breaks. From vitamins, fish oil, whatever.

Specifically with Epicatechin products it seems that the MOA is by myostatin inhibition. With any inhibition happening the body will naturally try to compensate for what the supplement is doing. What this could lead to is essentially diminishing returns or down regulation of other bodily processes etc. Your best bet would be to run it, see when you start to not "feel" the effects anymore and cycle off :) easy peasy.

DermaStrength (laxogenin), I'm not even going to pretend to know a lot on this lol as there is just not a lot of info on it. From what I've seen/read it has favorable effects and therefore wouldn't really need to be cycled as it doesn't work in a feedback/inhibitory manner. However, like I said previously, I recommend to discontinue everything, every now and then.
 
Spaniard said:
Ya but we're talking about no PCT here, no suppression, no hepatic concerns, no negative health impact. Mild or not, any non-hormonal supplement that can hang with a hormone is leagues above the rest. Cha feel?

Looking swole in the new avi bro
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I totally understand this and kept that in mind when writing my post.
Here's the thing, I'd never run halo again. I used to recommend it a lot due to it being safer (I'm the reason kickstart chose to run it lol, the low sides and such was a good place to start for him), however I'm more in the mindset now that a steroid cycle should show dramatic changes, that's the point. So halo should be a part of a bigger picture like a 10 week test cycle or something along those lines. Halo didn't change my appearance, but it sure as hell made my dick limp. For what? A 20 increase on my bench? Seems like epic should be used for that type of thing. Especially in a hyper reactor like kickstart here. Halo is a hormonal product and a steroid, but its not gear. Putting a natty supp against gear there is no comparison.
So I agree with you. I'm also using a epi product right now. Results aren't were kickstarts are. But it seems people get so defensive of these products it makes me wonder why? Is it because they have a good hype going and they don't want buzz killers like me to ruin it? Lol you know I don't mean Olympus of course, I know you guys are all legit. No question.
And thanks bro! I'm going to be logging "the 1" and dermafury for you guys along with test maybe pin trest and later tren.
20ish weeks of test so ill be on for a while. I want those dramatic changes ;)
 
reps4jesus said:
I totally understand this and kept that in mind when writing my post. Here's the thing, I'd never run halo again. I used to recommend it a lot due to it being safer (I'm the reason kickstart chose to run it lol, the low sides and such was a good place to start for him), however I'm more in the mindset now that a steroid cycle should show dramatic changes, that's the point. So halo should be a part of a bigger picture like a 10 week test cycle or something along those lines. Halo didn't change my appearance, but it sure as hell made my dick limp. For what? A 20 increase on my bench? Seems like epic should be used for that type of thing. Especially in a hyper reactor like kickstart here. Halo is a hormonal product and a steroid, but its not gear. Putting a natty supp against gear there is no comparison. So I agree with you. I'm also using a epi product right now. Results aren't were kickstarts are. But it seems people get so defensive of these products it makes me wonder why? Is it because they have a good hype going and they don't want buzz killers like me to ruin it? Lol you know I don't mean Olympus of course, I know you guys are all legit. No question. And thanks bro! I'm going to be logging "the 1" and dermafury for you guys along with test maybe pin trest and later tren. 20ish weeks of test so ill be on for a while. I want those dramatic changes ;)
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I'm leaning towards a small bulking cycle with DMZ and trest, but only thing that stinks is that I might not be able to run it bc of testing.
 
Kickstart7 said:
I'm leaning towards a small bulking cycle with DMZ and trest, but only thing that stinks is that I might not be able to run it bc of testing.
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Damn bro..that sucks. Did your coach tell you they're testing?
 
reps4jesus said:
Damn bro..that sucks. Did your coach tell you they're testing?
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yes I messaged you bout that but I never know if they send on the APP
 
Hey Kickstart, I wanted to give a shout out to Ep1c and DermaStrength! On my epi/tren cycle I went from benching 275x1 to 300x5. When I started pct it dropped to 300x1, now after being on dermastrength for 3.5 weeks and 2.5 weeks on ep1c, I hit 315 tonight!!!!
 
tommurph said:
Hey Kickstart, I wanted to give a shout out to Ep1c and DermaStrength! On my epi/tren cycle I went from benching 275x1 to 300x5. When I started pct it dropped to 300x1, now after being on dermastrength for 3.5 weeks and 2.5 weeks on ep1c, I hit 315 tonight!!!!
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hell yea that's what's good!! Congrats buddy , good to hear it's working for others like it is for me :)
 
tommurph said:
Yeah, hoping to put on 20lbs through the winter then do a cutting cycle in the spring! Plus trying to get my bench to 350lbs by end of year!
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best of luck buddy! I'll be watching, I'm trying to do the same!
 
I'd like to report my BP is back to 120/76... a week after my cycle ended it was 140/83. Very happy about this!
 
Kickstart7 said:
I'd like to report my BP is back to 120/76... a week after my cycle ended it was 140/83. Very happy about this!
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congrats on the good news bud! last time i had mine checked it was around 140/70ish but i guess ive always had a real heavy/hard pulse :)
 
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