Good Ole Honest Abe's DMZ Cycle

dbrock504 said:
Just to help: your dates are off. But you still killed it, imo. That's a hard day's work. Go rest and eat, boss.
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Are they? I have been posting each days log the day after, if that is what you are talking about, that way I know what I have eaten. Either way, thanks man I seem to be running a bit slower these last few days, possibly too many late nights. Thinking about switching my routine into a 3 days a week system, for a little bit of a shock and more recovery. Got about 2 more weeks of this cycle and about to drop the DMZ and up the M1t, did enjoy the DMZ so it is kind of sad to see it go.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Are they? I have been posting each days log the day after, if that is what you are talking about, that way I know what I have eaten. Either way, thanks man I seem to be running a bit slower these last few days, possibly too many late nights. Thinking about switching my routine into a 3 days a week system, for a little bit of a shock and more recovery. Got about 2 more weeks of this cycle and about to drop the DMZ and up the M1t, did enjoy the DMZ so it is kind of sad to see it go.
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Nah man I just mean today is 7/17, not 7/16. Yesterday was 7/16, not 7/15... And ya I think so too. That's why I told you to go get some rest lol. I had to take an hour nap today.
 
07.18
Kind of a slowish day and the morning session wasn't the greatest but my head wasn't on straight, need to make sure I get tons of sleep this weekend and hit the gym harder next week.

Training;
5x10 front squats
10x10 hamstring curls
5x10 curls
5x21 curls
10x10 tri extends
10x10 wrist curls

Food;
Protein shake
2 cups of peanuts
Chicken nuggets
Yogurt
Two hamburgers
Mac n cheese
 
dbrock504 said:
Nah man I just mean today is 7/17, not 7/16. Yesterday was 7/16, not 7/15... And ya I think so too. That's why I told you to go get some rest lol. I had to take an hour nap today.
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Oh gotcha just gonna fix that up from now on thanks man :). Yeah my rest is this weekend as the girl is hanging with her parents and so I slumber
 
July 19-20 weekend
Got some well deserved rest this weekend,going to dial back the workouts this week and possibly the next as well a bit before hitting up 5 times a week again. Checked my weight and at 183.6lbs
 
Abe Lincoln said:
July 19-20 weekend
Got some well deserved rest this weekend,going to dial back the workouts this week and possibly the next as well a bit before hitting up 5 times a week again. Checked my weight and at 183.6lbs
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Nice! Was this your last week of PH's or ... wait you have M1T left right?
 
Tagger said:
Nice! Was this your last week of PH's or ... wait you have M1T left right?
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Ha thanks :) Last week was the last of dmz but now still on m1t for 2 more weeks at 15mg. Really pumped to get into pct to see how osta works, also selling off some stuff to save up for next cycle in winter
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Ha thanks :) Last week was the last of dmz but now still on m1t for 2 more weeks at 15mg. Really pumped to get into pct to see how osta works, also selling off some stuff to save up for next cycle in winter
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The Osta was bad ass for me!
 
Tagger said:
The Osta was bad ass for me!
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Yeah have yet to try so hearing all these good reviews about it has me pumped. I'm curious how long one could cruise on it? Like it is mildly suppressive and all but if one got bloods done each month and kept checking blood pressure
 
07.21 So today wasn't really a heavy day for deads but just felt like going ham on them which lead to a pr so pretty sweet, thinking that upping my dosage on m1t oxime might of been a key factor. Been doing some research and think I found a pretty reliable source of superdrol for my next cycle, probably order it sometime this month.

Training;
Deadlifts 6x10 ---pr; 395lbs
Db press 10x10
Incline press 5x10
Overhead press 5x10
Shrugs 10x10

Foods;
1/4 gallon of milk
Mozzarella noodles
Chicken breast
2 cups of peanuts
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Yeah have yet to try so hearing all these good reviews about it has me pumped. I'm curious how long one could cruise on it? Like it is mildly suppressive and all but if one got bloods done each month and kept checking blood pressure
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That's a great question but I have no idea.

I did mine for 6 weeks. And it was great.
 
Tagger said:
That's a great question but I have no idea. I did mine for 6 weeks. And it was great.
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Well obviously being in for too long would just cause your body to adapt, which would mean you'd have to up the dosage, so that might end up causing ill effects and diminishing returns. Though it is mildly suppressive so maybe could be low dosed between cycles?
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Well obviously being in for too long would just cause your body to adapt, which would mean you'd have to up the dosage, so that might end up causing ill effects and diminishing returns. Though it is mildly suppressive so maybe could be low dosed between cycles?
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Yah I did 10mg the entire time.
 
07.22
Rest day. Been looking into more strength based programs to run after my current.

Food;
2 cups of peanuts
Mozzarella noodles
Chicken nuggets
Grilled cheese
1/4 gallon of milk
Chicken breast
 
Abe Lincoln said:
You entire off time? I wonder if there are any studies on prolonged use of sarms hmm
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Yup, entire time.

I don't think so.

There is a study with 3mg pharmacy grade Osta used on old people.
 
Tagger said:
Yup, entire time. I don't think so. There is a study with 3mg pharmacy grade Osta used on old people.
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Guess I will have to do some hardcore research on this tomorrow, I believe I saw some stuff on prolonged use of hormonals leading to a hyperactive test
 
07.23
Back to the gym today. Tried for a pr today but couldn't muster it up as I wasn't far enough from the squat rack so I hooked the bar prematurely, kind of jolt me a bit but pyramid the weight down after that. Been messing around with the lat pull down machine a bit and found that my form was a bit off as I looked at a mirror so fixed that and can feel it more in the lats, also on the last rep I like to squeeze at the bottom for 10 seconds, feels good.

Training;
10x10 squats
10x10 calf raises
5x10 deadlifts
10x10 rows
10x10 lat pull downs

Food;
Grilled cheese
Chicken nuggets
Rice
Chicken breast
1/4 gallon of milk
1 cup of peanuts
 
07.24
Rest day. Looked into my stash of supplements and found that I have a bunch of creatine mono and hcl so started up some mono today at 5g. Also have a bunch of samples from a lot of companies and like a half bottle of hit thermogenic, probably use sometime in September to aid in trimming up for vacation in October.

Food;
Chicken nuggets
Rice
Cup of peanuts
1/4 gallon of milk
Homemade Mac
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Guess I will have to do some hardcore research on this tomorrow, I believe I saw some stuff on prolonged use of hormonals leading to a hyperactive test
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Yah I think that could happen with any hormone.

But you'd have to run it for a WHILE.
 
Tagger said:
Yah I think that could happen with any hormone. But you'd have to run it for a WHILE.
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True, though not sure what would be all the issues with hyperactive test, possibly estrogen problems and such. Good point, wonder how long one could run 5mg-10mg. Either way got about another week of m1t, trying to figure if I should log my osta on this thread or make a new one seeing as many people say don't take it during pct, so it would show a good case.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
True, though not sure what would be all the issues with hyperactive test, possibly estrogen problems and such. Good point, wonder how long one could run 5mg-10mg. Either way got about another week of m1t, trying to figure if I should log my osta on this thread or make a new one seeing as many people say don't take it during pct, so it would show a good case.
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That's up to you haha.

I did it in PCT with no problems.

But everyone is different right?

Who knows..
 
Tagger said:
That's up to you haha. I did it in PCT with no problems. But everyone is different right? Who knows..
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Yeah I think I will just because. True enough I only plan on using 5mg so unless I'm super responsive to osta I think all will be good ha just suppressing the crap out of me randomly and puts on 20lbs lol. At the same time some people don't get anything from osta. I will put some money away for bloods and such so I can test that out.
 
07.25
Went into the gym today to find the hamstring machine broken so mixed up the workout a bit. Also later in the evening I had a mild pump in my lower back that lasted about 2-3 minutes.

Training;
5x10 front squats
10x10 Concentration curls
5x10 tricep extensions
10x10 tricep pull downs
5x10 wrist curls
5x10 db straight leg deadlifts (loved the pain I got in the abs from this)

Food;
Chicken nuggets
Rice
Yogurt
1/4 gallon of milk
Boneless garlic flavored chicken bites (1.5lb)
 
July 26-37 weekend
Ate roughly 2,500 calories per day. Trying to figure out my maintenance as I want to cruise a lil bit above this for pct. Found out I gained about 2% bf, which was too be expected of how I was gaining weight.
 
Will post today's log later on in the evening but just wanted to say that I'm getting that alpha feeling for sure, I never really noticed it but it has been there for a while. When I was in the gym a lil bit ago I swore to god this guy was following me around doing the same exercises but heavier. This was probably paranoia but in the animal kingdom the alpha male competes with the other males for the role of king so it could be the m1t.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
July 26-37 weekend
Ate roughly 2,500 calories per day. Trying to figure out my maintenance as I want to cruise a lil bit above this for pct. Found out I gained about 2% bf, which was too be expected of how I was gaining weight.
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How much weight have you gained as of now?
 
dbrock504 said:
I started at the same exact weight as you, and I am also 183ish. #Illuminati
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Lol yeah I mean I had some crazy strength gains as you did as well from what I see over at your log. Possibly if I had run the dmz higher I could of got better results or the m1t oxime, but decided to stack them. I defiantly want a good more amount of size but strength is a bigger issue on my mind
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Lol yeah I mean I had some crazy strength gains as you did as well from what I see over at your log. Possibly if I had run the dmz higher I could of got better results or the m1t oxime, but decided to stack them. I defiantly want a good more amount of size but strength is a bigger issue on my mind
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I hear ya. Hey man we just made months of progress in 4-6 weeks. Run a few more of these suckers and I think you'll see huge strength increase from where you started. I'm more concerned with my aesthetics right now. Strength will come with more muscle growth (theoretically).
 
dbrock504 said:
I hear ya. Hey man we just made months of progress in 4-6 weeks. Run a few more of these suckers and I think you'll see huge strength increase from where you started. I'm more concerned with my aesthetics right now. Strength will come with more muscle growth (theoretically).
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True enough when you look at the big picture it does sound pretty good. It works both ways of course you focus on strength you get size and vice versa. I'm hoping to get that dense look/feel via strength
 
07.28
Thinking I popped a blood vessel in my eye today in the gym as my eye has been hurting. Besides that gym was pretty smooth today worked up a good sweat as usual as I keep my rest between sets short in the 30second range.

Training;
Straight leg db deadlifts 5x10
Incline press 10x10
Db press 10x10
Overhead press 10x10, drop set
Shrugs 5x10

Food;
Chicken nuggets
Rice
Pancakes
Chicken breast
1/4 gallon of milk
Homemade Mac
 
07.29
Eye still hurting not as bad but still there. Today was a rest day so stayed out of the gym and hung out with my girl and some friends.

Food;
Chicken nuggets
1 cup of peanuts
1/4 gallon of milk
Left over homemade Mac
Chicken breast
 
07.30
Checked out my eye more clearly today and apparently I have a pump right where my eye kid touches my eye, so that is probably what is bothering me so much haha.

Training;
Deadlifts 10x10
Squat 5x10
Leg press 5x10
Calf raise 5x10
Tbar row 5x10
Lat pull downs 10x10

Food;
Pancakes
1/4 gallon of milk
2 cups of peanuts
Chicken nuggets
Grilled cheese
Chicken breast
 
07.31
Last day of cycle boys. Overall it was a pretty solid cycle and I didn't have really any bad sides. Went from 175 to 184, bf% went up by 2. I noticed a lot more strength with dmz than m1t oxime, but with m1t oxime I did feel more fuller muscle wise. Not sure if it was in my head but I notice my hair is slightly dryer than usual when I was running just the dmz. Will post up the pct thread later on for those to follow, as I will be running a small dose of osta from Olympus labs so thought I'd make it a separate entity from this thread.

Food;
Pancakes
Chicken nuggets
1/4 gallon of milk
Mozzarella noodles
Chicken breast
 
The Osta will help out tremendously. No lies. Just wait. Haha.
 
Tagger said:
The Osta will help out tremendously. No lies. Just wait. Haha.
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Yeah, I think it is starting to kick in as my weight was a bit shaky, but that was probably the drop from bulk to maintenance. And thanks :wink1:

Forgot to post here, but this is where I'm running the PCT, thinking will update roughly 3 times a week. ;
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Abe Lincoln said:
Yeah, I think it is starting to kick in as my weight was a bit shaky, but that was probably the drop from bulk to maintenance. And thanks :wink1:

Forgot to post here, but this is where I'm running the PCT, thinking will update roughly 3 times a week. ;
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For sure.

I'll go subscribe to it.
 
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