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Dave's Newest bulk into cut for show. AAS, SLIN and GH

You have found the holy grail. I can only imagine the fun you must have on tren.

Dude you have no idea. You don't stop having sex because you came.. It's because you are too sore, raw, cramped up and completely exhausted. It's fukn awesome. Plus she squats more and benches more than most dudes its hilarious. Dudes will rub over to spot her on bench (135) and she will rack the weight and cuss them out. I fukn die every time it happens, I'm on the other side of the gym weezing for air as I'm laughing at the dudes who get scolded and chewed out by her. They walk away embarrassed and shamed with their tail tucked. She made one dude actually leave the gym because people laughed at him after she yelled at him.
 
Dude you have no idea. You don't stop having sex because you came.. It's because you are too sore, raw, cramped up and completely exhausted. It's fukn awesome. Plus she squats more and benches more than most dudes its hilarious. Dudes will rub over to spot her on bench (135) and she will rack the weight and cuss them out. I fukn die every time it happens, I'm on the other side of the gym weezing for air as I'm laughing at the dudes who get scolded and chewed out by her. They walk away embarrassed and shamed with their tail tucked. She made one dude actually leave the gym because people laughed at him after she yelled at him.

Ahahah prolly the skinny dudes in Y backs.

There's this girl at my gym who squats 275 for reps ass to grass. The amount of jaws on the ground was funny as hell. She reps what people 1/4 squat max at my gym ahah.
 
Speaking of squats. I've been pausing my reps a lot like Dave's mentioned. Fck you Dave. I hate you but I can see the damn growth in a few weeks. Awesome idea.
 
i need to get my chick on var so she can keep up with me. maybe primo will be better since i can put her on it longer.. hmmm...


hurdle, just a quick analogy that fits me quite well. the military is like a bar fight. you got the marines and the army up front dukeing it out, smashing the piss outta everyone. then you got the navy theyre like the circle around the fight. then you got the air force (where i fall in) sitting in the back lobbing bottles into the middle of the mess. basically what i mean, i rarely contribute anything useful, i just throw random sh!t into the middle of everything.
 
Speaking of squats. I've been pausing my reps a lot like Dave's mentioned. Fck you Dave. I hate you but I can see the damn growth in a few weeks. Awesome idea.

It's pretty legit man. Pause reps at the end of a workout are not a nice thing. Leave you limping for a few days. And no you don't hate me.. C'mon you know you love me and all my dick pics I send
 
Regarding SHBG, and my opinion, which is partly based anecdotally and partly from research... Oddly enough Formestane has done a number for controlling my estrogen and this is on Trestolone, which not only converts moreso than T, but to a methylated estrogen. Anyways, the longer I run Formabolic, the less I have estrogen issues despite the increase in Trestolone dosages. Its known to reduce SHBG by a fairly respectable number (I think I read somewhere it did so by about 35%). But if I had access to anything, I'd do Form and Masteron.

Awesome info brother. I got some mast E laying around I might add in my cruise at 100mg ew and throw formeron on it as well. Thanks.

Also, if you don't mind sharing, what kind of GH are you running? If you've got extra cash you might consider throwing in some IGF-1. I swear that **** is insane it works better for me than GH (although I just started GH so really that's a bogus bull**** conclusion, I just know the IGF-1 healed some old injuries FAST and I GROW on that ****).

I'm going to run a couple kinds together. I have some Viptropin (500iu total) Jintropin (1400iu totall) and a few kits of rips. Jins are my base and going to IV blast the others around my slin on workout days.

I mentioned I was going to run IGF but due to the fact I'm running slin and GH I won't need it because my igf1 levels will be through the roof. No point in wasting money to put in more even if it's for insulin sensitivity because I'm using glucophage. The IGF-1 lr3 will actually be used in my 2 week primes before I blast again. I will dive more into the science on these protocols over the next few weeks.
 
It's pretty legit man. Pause reps at the end of a workout are not a nice thing. Leave you limping for a few days. And no you don't hate me.. C'mon you know you love me and all my dick pics I send

Lmao. Actually man I'm totally digging on the pauses. Been doing them on hack and bb squat. Really really hits the dear drops hard as fck when you hit proper depth. It's amazing how much "momentum" there is in a regular squat. It's almost like you can bounce out. Love the crazy looks I've been getting sitting a 1-3 count in the hole with 3 plates on the bar. I let a little grunt out and it's like I'm at planet fitness. Oh well it's why all those bitches are small and I'm sitting around 230. I work. They don't.


And don't talk too much about the dik pics I'm on steroids. My junks already raw from beating it off, pounding the woman's vag etc etc
 
Lmao. Actually man I'm totally digging on the pauses. Been doing them on hack and bb squat. Really really hits the dear drops hard as fck when you hit proper depth. It's amazing how much "momentum" there is in a regular squat. It's almost like you can bounce out. Love the crazy looks I've been getting sitting a 1-3 count in the hole with 3 plates on the bar. I let a little grunt out and it's like I'm at planet fitness. Oh well it's why all those bitches are small and I'm sitting around 230. I work. They don't.

And don't talk too much about the dik pics I'm on steroids. My junks already raw from beating it off, pounding the woman's vag etc etc

You can essentially accomplish this with floor presses for chest as well. Aint nothin easy to stop 2/3 the way down and reverse the motion.
 
I pause my benches 1" over my chest but yes that's also correct and an awesome tool for hypertrophy. Pretty much pausing holding a rep at the bottom of top or a slow negative really seem to hit me hard.
 
I mentioned I was going to run IGF but due to the fact I'm running slin and GH I won't need it because my igf1 levels will be through the roof. No point in wasting money to put in more even if it's for insulin sensitivity because I'm using glucophage. The IGF-1 lr3 will actually be used in my 2 week primes before I blast again. I will dive more into the science on these protocols over the next few weeks.
send that igf-1 on over playa hahaha
 
Ok so here is a bit of research, knowledge and reason behind a 6 week blast followed by a 2 week prime leading right into another 6/2 blast/prime.

Workout-
Ok so we are going with a DC (doggcrap) training cycle. This is an everyotherday lifting program. Half body of day "A" then the other half on Day "B" with an off day between. So Monday- Day A, off day Wednesday- Day B, off day, Friday- Day A and so on. In essence a regular split of a bodypart once a week leaves your bodypart trained 52 times a year allowing it to grow 52 times. DC allows you to train each bodypart 72 times a year, allowing you to grow 72 times. This is a VERY taxing regiment and is done for 6-8 weeks followed by a 2 week deload and rest period.

Gear usage- (bust out a chair this will be long winded)

Ok knowing we will be blasting for 6 weeks we need to create the most anabolic environment possible. We also need serious recovery for this training split. The first 6/2 phase will be a size phase. We will target supra physiological doses of gear with mainly anabolic properties. Knowing we need to get doses extremely high for a 6 week period and knowing we only have 6 weeks to do this before we go into a prime phase that includes NO steroids short ester will not be the smartest choice. We will go with long ester compounds.

Slin and GH will be used for their obvious properties which I will not go into depth on at the moment. We will talk about insulin sensitivity though in a few.

The injectable AAS will be long ester so knowing we need to get levels in the body as high as fukn possible in the first few days we will front load the entire 6 weeks at some intense doses. BE WARNED THE DOSES I AM GOING TO POST ARE NOT FOR A FIRST OR FUK EVEN A 3rd or 4th CYCLE. It takes knowing your body and experience with AAS and the ability to get bloodwork done regularly.

Testosterone Enanthate will be our first compound utilized as the base of the blast. We all know this is a 50/50 compound meaning it is 50 percent anabolic and equally androgenic. We will target 500mg injections every other day. We know the clear time for this compound is 2 weeks so we will cut it off 2 weeks before the second blast of 6 weeks starts because we want it all out of our body before be blast again. Our body will be clearing out this during the prime phase.

Decadurabolin will be compound 2. This is a highly anabolic compound known for size gains and is about 80/20 (anabolic/androgenic). The clear times for deca metabolites is 4 weeks so cutoff for injections during the 6 week blast will be week 4. We will inject 300mg eod totalling around 600 a week.

Proviron- this oral has a great profile for increasing receptor sensitivity, libido, blocking estrogen binding and lowering SHGB. This will be dosed at 50mg ed.

Anadrol- if I need to explain this... Please leave this thread and go nail your dick to a countertop and rethink your existence. It's anabolic and will be used workout days only at 50mg.

Aromasin- 25mg ed. If I need to explain please see anadrol description.

Caber- .5mg eod with deca injections to control prolactin. Gunna need this for sure.

Ok now we get to Slin and GH... Both compounds can cause desensitization to insulin and build a resistance. So glucophage will be utilized on non insulin days at a dose of 1000mg split up with meals. Insulin will be used at 10iu pre workout only on lifting days allowing my body to not build a complete resistance over a 6 week period. GH will be used but it will be split doses in a saw pattern through the week. On lifting days there will be 3iu upon waking, 2iu mid day and 5iu 20min before insulin injection. On non lifting days it will be 3iu am 3iu pm. Upon completion of the blast entering prime phase dose will increase to 8iu ed for 2 weeks.

IGF-1- used e3d during prime phase to increase insulin sensitivity and help maintain mass and glycogen storage. Doses will be 15mcg 30min after GH injections.


That is all I'm willing to type now but there is more coming. I need to eat then food prep :)
 
So here is breakdown for my post above.

Test E 500mg eod week1-6
Deca 300mg eod week 1-4
Proviron 50mg ed
Aromasin 25 mg ed
Caber .5mg eod with deca
Slin 10iu workout days only
GH 6iu non lift days and 10iu lifting days
Anadrol 50mg eod (lift days only)

Prime weeks-
Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Caber .5mg e3d
Hcg 500iu e3d
IGF-1 LR3 15mcg 2x e3d
Possibly t-3 and Clen to combat suppression of thyroid depending on bloodwork that first week.
 
Invalid Link Removed Is that what you were talking about? It seems intense.

Yeah that's one of his interviews. It doesn't really go in depth. Look at intensemuscle.com that's his home forum and is where the REAL info is. It's not a program for beginners. They won't get much out if it because they don't know their bodies or the iron yet. I did it 2 years ago for. 6 weeks and got decent gains but decided it was too intense and advanced for me. Now I'm gunna give it round 2 and hit this bitch hard as hell.
 
Yeah that's one of his interviews. It doesn't really go in depth. Look at intensemuscle.com that's his home forum and is where the REAL info is. It's not a program for beginners. They won't get much out if it because they don't know their bodies or the iron yet. I did it 2 years ago for. 6 weeks and got decent gains but decided it was too intense and advanced for me. Now I'm gunna give it round 2 and hit this bitch hard as hell.

were you doing the split only monday/wed/fri?

Im pretty curious at this type of training, been reading a bit about it lately + half body splits etc.

I really dig this guys ideas about powerlifters turn bodybuilder with no big gaps in their physique, and compound progression > isolation movements. I find this interesting, im going to get to reading, thanks for the link DD.
 
were you doing the split only monday/wed/fri? Im pretty curious at this type of training, been reading a bit about it lately + half body splits etc. I really dig this guys ideas about powerlifters turn bodybuilder with no big gaps in their physique, and compound progression > isolation movements. I find this interesting, im going to get to reading, thanks for the link DD.

I was doing it m/w/f. I might adapt it a bit he has a few different split styles I might add in. Thanks man any questions hit me up I am familiar with the style and have the basics down.
 
'My point IM trying to get across? Want a one way ticket to failure in bodybuilding? Overthink this stuff until it drives you bonkers and you dont know what the hell your doing and what the hell works or doesnt work. Get off the "24 hour thoughts plan" guys and start thinking of your bodybuilding in a "monthly" or yearly plan. You check the mirror, check the scale and you make adjustments. NOT DAILY! Every 2 weeks or monthly."

I like this guy. Thanks for the open invite DD, I appreciate it. Going to keep reading up on this stuff tonight and ill inbox ya.
 
I think this is the most appropriate place to stage this question, let's just say I wanna plan a cycle for the fall or beginning of next year, and let's just say that my main goal was to get shredded as ****, but id still like to grow some because i always like to grow some, annnnd let's say that money was really not of concern in this equation, annnnd let's keep in mind I'm not a fan of high doses. So ideally what would you wanna run or what would be ur ideal cycle for such a scenario? Go as mild or wild as u want, I'd just like some input
 
747 million rep points for DD! Had to re-read your post twice to make sure I understood and digested the info.

What's your diet going to look like during each phase? Are you going to be in a surplus during your bulk then back it down for the prime phase and then increase cals again during the next blast? Or with the gear that you're on do you just eat like a Fukin monster the whole time?

Damn it I'm excited for you and to see how you respond to this protocol.

Thanks for the continuing education brofessor!!!
 
I'm not dieting like the DC protocol says per se. He has a carb cutoff time to prevent fat storage. This works but with me on insulin and growth it won't match up for me really. After my post workout meal my carbs will be stopped. Here are my target macros-
Phase 1-
6week blast 7 meals+1 intra workout shake. 1 liquid meal (meal 1). Macros- 40/40/20 split possibly shifted to a 30/60/10 (p/c/f). Broken up over all the meals totalling 4300-4500 calories. None workout days the intra carb shake calories will not be consumed resulting in a 300ish calorie drop.
2 week cruise- I will drop 1 meal and keep intra workout shakes the same as above. This should result in a drop to 3800-4000 calorie per day consumption.

2nd blast prime- (assuming I added weight say 10lbs)-
6week blast- same as above but increase calories by 10% across the board.
2 week prime- same as above.

The cycle continues. However much I gain is how many percent I will increase calories across the board. 10lbs=10% increase so if I'm eating 4000 calories on blast 1 and gain 10lbs blast 2 will be a base of 4400 calories.

Hope that helps
 
That carb cut off time and the whole diet protocol in general makes me want to lean into bulking with DC training and diet.
 
That carb cut off time and the whole diet protocol in general makes me want to lean into bulking with DC training and diet.

The diet protocol is awesome really. Just doesn't mesh with my drug protocol exactly. In reality if you eat your face off eating just clean food that is calorie dense it will prevent fat gain for the most part as long as you combine cardio on your off days.
 
The diet protocol is awesome really. Just doesn't mesh with my drug protocol exactly. In reality if you eat your face off eating just clean food that is calorie dense it will prevent fat gain for the most part as long as you combine cardio on your off days.

For sure. People get fat when they skip out on the diet and cardio. I just don't want to rebound, since I've been cutting for a little bit now. I'd have to gradually bring my carbs and calories back up .
 
For sure. People get fat when they skip out on the diet and cardio. I just don't want to rebound, since I've been cutting for a little bit now. I'd have to gradually bring my carbs and calories back up .

Let your body rebound bro. Hit the weights hard and eat your face off. You insulin sensitivity will be great from dieting down and you will pack on size and no fat at the start because of your body just coming from a deficit. Just gotta hit the weights hard so your body knows where to put the food.
 
Let your body rebound bro. Hit the weights hard and eat your face off. You insulin sensitivity will be great from dieting down and you will pack on size and no fat at the start because of your body just coming from a deficit. Just gotta hit the weights hard so your body knows where to put the food.
PREACH ON BROFESSOR
 
I've personally never needed much cardio. Not sure if it's good genetics or the fact that I lift like I'm a fuking angry monster lol.

I don't know about anyone else but I hate accessory lifts. Not because they don't work, but I've never really done them. Same goes for high volume. As an athlete in college our strength and conditioning coach was an old school iron junkie.

We only really ever did deads, trap bar deads, squats, hang cleans, power cleans, incline bench, OHP, and hammer presses.

We rarely did flat bench at all. His "off" day was usually called Johnny bravo day and it was once every 4 weeks and we did close grip bench up and down the stack until we needed help Repping the bar.

My problem is now I haven't really been able to replicate that environment or program and sure as fuk haven't found someone that wants to do that kind of work. I'll have to look into DC and see what it has to offer.
 
I've personally never needed much cardio. Not sure if it's good genetics or the fact that I lift like I'm a fuking angry monster lol.

I don't know about anyone else but I hate accessory lifts. Not because they don't work, but I've never really done them. Same goes for high volume. As an athlete in college our strength and conditioning coach was an old school iron junkie.

We only really ever did deads, trap bar deads, squats, hang cleans, power cleans, incline bench, OHP, and hammer presses.

We rarely did flat bench at all. His "off" day was usually called Johnny bravo day and it was once every 4 weeks and we did close grip bench up and down the stack until we needed help Repping the bar.

My problem is now I haven't really been able to replicate that environment or program and sure as fuk haven't found someone that wants to do that kind of work. I'll have to look into DC and see what it has to offer.

My buddy took me through an arm day... Wanted to kill myself. Give me a damn bar and let me ****ing deadlift.
 
DC training is basically a type of rest pause training right?


Yeah. It's a super high intenisty rest pause set for each lift that day. Dave showed the basic outline. It breaks down to 3x a week. Basically you'll have 3 upper body days and 3 lower body days and you alternate them every lift. It's brutal if you can achieve absolute failure in 1 set like you're supposed to. It's also periodized, each time you repeat the same work out you have to beat the last times log book for it in reps or weight. You can find a lot of info if you google it if you're interested.
 
Yo you are in Colorado? Where at?? I wanna get a session with you once I get back. Pm me if you don't want post it


I live in lowry park/stapelton area. I travel for work up to wheat ridge and also in aurora so I can make something work in the Denver area.

I am actually going to check out armbrust gym in aurora. Ever heard of it? Apparently it's pretty legit.
 
I live in lowry park/stapelton area. I travel for work up to wheat ridge and also in aurora so I can make something work in the Denver area.

I am actually going to check out armbrust gym in aurora. Ever heard of it? Apparently it's pretty legit.

Parents live around wheat ridge and Armbrust isn't too far away. Go to school in Boulder so we should work something out in the fall when I get back from California. Didn't know you were around there or else i would have hit you up sooner. Always looking for someone to lift seriously with
 
Parents live around wheat ridge and Armbrust isn't too far away. Go to school in Boulder so we should work something out in the fall when I get back from California. Didn't know you were around there or else i would have hit you up sooner. Always looking for someone to lift seriously with


Yeah let's def make that happen man. Pm me your info sometime.
 
Lmao. Actually man I'm totally digging on the pauses. Been doing them on hack and bb squat. Really really hits the dear drops hard as fck when you hit proper depth. It's amazing how much "momentum" there is in a regular squat. It's almost like you can bounce out. Love the crazy looks I've been getting sitting a 1-3 count in the hole with 3 plates on the bar. I let a little grunt out and it's like I'm at planet fitness. Oh well it's why all those bitches are small and I'm sitting around 230. I work. They don't. And don't talk too much about the dik pics I'm on steroids. My junks already raw from beating it off, pounding the woman's vag etc etc

Deer drops, man I'm ready to go hunting. I'm ready to see a big deer drop.
 
Deer drops, man I'm ready to go hunting. I'm ready to see a big deer drop.

This. Man I can't wait to get in the woods. I hit one about a month and a half ago and did $8k in damage to my truck. I'm taking it out on the rest of the population this year.
 
Dude my venison freezer took a **** with my dad's buck in it still. Fortunately I ate mine already but I need an immediate restock.

This. I'm ready for a restock as well and pulling the trigger on a big one. You were talking about tear drop from hack squats but you wrote dear drop, I immediately thought of being in the stand freezing cold morning, no sound except the rattle of my horns or the doe bleet. The rush of spotting a grand dad, wheeeww boys I'm ready!!!
 
Ok so DC split is set. I will be doing the Mon, Wed, Fri split for this month and next month until I am back from San Diego Aug 28th ish. At that point it will be revised to adjust for me going back onto cycle. Most likely it will be shifted into mon, tues, off, thur, fri, off, off. With 20-30min cardio every off day. I will post my exercises that I picked later.

I don't really want this to turn into a DC discussion. I am following Dante's protocol for this while tailoring the diet to fit my body, metabolism and goals. The training part is just as he explains... No changes other than to help target weak points and work around my injuries.

If you have questions about DC (doggcrap) training please PM me and I will direct you to Dante's website that goes very indepth on the principle. He doesn't want people fukn up his protocol or preaching it with bad advice or self interpretation so I will respect his wishes and refrain from in depth conversation on the open forums.

Thanks bros and be ready for some fun!!
 
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