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I used to have a hard time swallowing pills and now I can swallow 30 at a time (srs). Put the water in your mouth first then put the pill/s in. Push the pills right to the back of your throat, tilt your head up basically. Do the motion quick then swallow it down. Should be much easier mate

30 is a lot of pills. I've done 10 or 12 at a time
 
cissus has always been standby for me, but when I did Achilles I felt much better overall and was pretty impressed with speed/efficacy of results

CissusXT has been treating me well...nearly 2 yrs on it...it's...it's become a part of me, lol...

^Agreer. Achillies is good and so is Joint Force for specific areas

Joint Help for overall

Joint Force for immediate relief if you go to heavy and it results in having a really bad day... only happened to me a handful of times over the years, typically when dieting and using anti estrogens. Joint Force was a life saver on a few occasions for me w my elbow though, I'll always keep a bottle on hand.

Joint product you have to check out Flexible, the stuff is amazing. I love Super Cissus as well for joint pain.I've tried the Potassium Nitrate it's good stuff, I'm loving MAX PUMP tho, good dose of Betaine + Nitrates, can't go wrong.

Any of you dudes try it with shoulder issues?
 
30 is a lot of pills. I've done 10 or 12 at a time

Back when I was younger my friends said If i could swallow a pack of animal pak, animal cuts and animal m stack in 1 go they would give me $30.

I managed it, but my stomach literally was on fire for about 3 hours when it was all digesting at the same time.....worth it ;) haha
 
With X factor I've got it sitting in my cart but not sure whether to get 2 or 3 bottles, so either dosing it at 4 caps pre for 50 days or 6 caps pre. What do you guys think? Has anyone had better success at the higher run? I'm around 180lbs, bulking and have done an X factor run before. Also I'm thinking of adding anabeta with it
Cheers

At 180lbs, 4 preWO should suffice. However,with 6 the anabolic effect is slightly amplified.

If you tried 4 on your last run, you can try going up to 6 (1.5g ArA) this time around to see how you like the increased dosage. There is no one right or wrong dose with ArA, which is among the reasons X-Factor is such a versatile product.
 
I used to have a hard time swallowing pills and now I can swallow 30 at a time (srs). Put the water in your mouth first then put the pill/s in. Push the pills right to the back of your throat, tilt your head up basically. Do the motion quick then swallow it down. Should be much easier mate

Like a BOSS
 
Any of you dudes try it with shoulder issues?

Yup. Strained AC joint and impinged supraspinatus. It's not going to fix it. Used Achilies and Joint Force. It'll just relieve some of the imflammation that stems from it. The Joint Force felt great on my AC joint when it was bad to relieve the pain. Wasn't able to penetrate enough for the rotator cuff though. Spray it on and throw Saran Wrap and a tshirt over it for a half hour. Feels incredible.

What's up with yours?
 
Back when I was younger my friends said If i could swallow a pack of animal pak, animal cuts and animal m stack in 1 go they would give me $30.

I managed it, but my stomach literally was on fire for about 3 hours when it was all digesting at the same time.....worth it ;) haha

You've got a bright future in the adult film industry if your gag reflex holds up to 30 pills at once, forget only making $30 ;)
 
Best natty supp to take while on a serious 6 week cut to help preserve muscle?

I don't know what's going on lol but I'm going to say UR spray. I've lost over 20 pounds and only roughly a half inch to my muscle measurements. Naturally that's pretty ****ing good if you ask me and I'm 28 yrs old so I'm not teen hormone status ya know? Also ive lost virtually no strength
 
Best natty supp to take while on a serious 6 week cut to help preserve muscle?

Alphamax by far, uses a clinically proven dose of 95% Forskolin, increasing lean mass while decreasing fat mass. Has Arimistane which will help harden you up and increase fullness and vascularty. Also contains Divanill, Ldopa and D3 all which will help preserve muscle mass while on a cut!
 
I saw nothing from alphamax. I was surprised because the profile looks so good. Maybe if I took it for 8 weeks I would like it.
 
I saw nothing from alphamax. I was surprised because the profile looks so good. Maybe if I took it for 8 weeks I would like it.

I would run for 8 for sure if I was gonna run it. Profile looks good but 4 weeks wouldn't be long enough to get full effects IMO.
 
I would run for 8 for sure if I was gonna run it. Profile looks good but 4 weeks wouldn't be long enough to get full effects IMO.

Agreed, but even at four weeks you should have noticed less water retention from the armistane and improved sleep at the least. I know when I run it even two weeks in i can at least start to feel it kicking in, but really shines after 4 weeks.
 
I would run for 8 for sure if I was gonna run it. Profile looks good but 4 weeks wouldn't be long enough to get full effects IMO.

I would say after 4 weeks if you felt diddly squat then you shouldn't continue with the product, something should of definitely happened in a month
 
Agreed, but even at four weeks you should have noticed less water retention from the armistane and improved sleep at the least. I know when I run it even two weeks in i can at least start to feel it kicking in, but really shines after 4 weeks.

Also agree. Should have stated that about the Armistane. Can usually notice that kicking around week 2.
 
Also agree. Should have stated that about the Armistane. Can usually notice that kicking around week 2.
yeah, i mean, not every product works for every person. Thats why there are many different types. I def would love to give it a second shot with running it at 8 weeks though.
 
yeah, i mean, not every product works for every person. Thats why there are many different types. I def would love to give it a second shot with running it at 8 weeks though.
So, so true. What works for one, may not for the other.
 
Best natty supp to take while on a serious 6 week cut to help preserve muscle?

Any of these will help you quite a bit:

AlphaMax, Test Factor, BioForge, X-Factor (you can also stack any of those first 3 with X-Factor for optimal results).
 
Our EP1C will likely be on this list shortly. Epicatechin is quite the popular ingredient right now. The results def speak for themselves.
 
Our EP1C will likely be on this list shortly. Epicatechin is quite the popular ingredient right now. The results def speak for themselves.

Epic will have epicatechin?!?!?
 
EP1C IS Epicatechin solo Brolo!
 
Keep me updated for intro sale!

Will do bro. I think I'm more excited to try this than most no BS. I just haven't been able to get a ****ing bottle hahaha! Every single time it's released I'm either on a call at the station or busy doing some other daunting task. The feedback on the forum is crazy. I just want a bottle lol
 
So ya, I'll update you AFTER I've secured my bottle ;)
 
Will do bro. I think I'm more excited to try this than most no BS. I just haven't been able to get a ****ing bottle hahaha! Every single time it's released I'm either on a call at the station or busy doing some other daunting task. The feedback on the forum is crazy. I just want a bottle lol

At 300mg im sold Haha.

Ill run it week 3 of PCT until 2 bottles are complete alongside Xgels and Growth Factor XT.

Should be a good run if gains :D
 
To gain more consumers? I have no interest in PH's but I do natty products. Now I can add Olympus Labs to a company I would purchase from.

Well yeah. But OL is a great PH company. It's who I'd go to for PH if I ever went that route. Just wondering why they care about epicatechin if they have strong PH.


Besides, isn't STR3NGTH a natty product?
 
Well yeah. But OL is a great PH company. It's who I'd go to for PH if I ever went that route. Just wondering why they care about epicatechin if they have strong PH.


Besides, isn't STR3NGTH a natty product?

They also have a pre-workout powder as well.

Maybe they want to cater to people who don't use PHs? And pretty sure there was a bit of talk about how Epicatechin may be beneficial for those running PHs/etc. a little while back. ;)
 
Well yeah. But OL is a great PH company. It's who I'd go to for PH if I ever went that route.
Just wondering why they care about epicatechin if they have strong PH.


Besides, isn't STR3NGTH a natty product?

Why not cater to both Natty & non-natty consumers..? Besides lots of non-natty consumers also use Natty
products during PCT. So it only makes sense. Also lots of PH Companies make support supplements that
people use while on cycle as well as off cycle.

Yes, Str3nth is a natty product
 
Yeah I know about conquer. I think it's called that.

Profile looks great.

I love their marketing and look. And seem like a quality company.

Well that would be great to run their Arimistane single ingredient product with their epicatechin product and PreW. Trio of awesomeness there. One for stacking muscle on, 1 for drying out and possible strength gains and a good olé PreW.
 
I've always been intentionally natty taking supplements. At least that I know of. But when I think of the go to company, it's OL. I'm highly into IF. So yeah, if I went to the dark side I'd go OL no doubt.
 
At 300mg im sold Haha.

Ill run it week 3 of PCT until 2 bottles are complete alongside Xgels and Growth Factor XT.

Should be a good run if gains :D

Then consider yourself sold my good man. EP1C is in fact 300 mg (-)-Epicatechin :).

That is wicked epic :).
That's exactly what I said lol. No one else found my pun to be funny. Glad you and I are on the same page Hahah
They also have a pre-workout powder as well.

Maybe they want to cater to people who don't use PHs? And pretty sure there was a bit of talk about how Epicatechin may be beneficial for those running PHs/etc. a little while back. ;)

Exactly this!
 
I actually got it.

And I'm not gonna deny it but EPIC is an AWESOME play on name and word usage for EPICatechin.

That's actually pretty cool. I mean "epic" is in epicatechin.
 
Well yeah. But OL is a great PH company. It's who I'd go to for PH if I ever went that route. Just wondering why they care about epicatechin if they have strong PH.

Besides, isn't STR3NGTH a natty product?

PH company's life span is very short these days which is why most try to make the move to non hormonals
 
PH company's life span is very short these days which is why most try to make the move to non hormonals

Yeah I unfortunately get that. I've never taken a PH but they shouldn't be banned if people want to use them.
 
Yeah I unfortunately get that. I've never taken a PH but they shouldn't be banned if people want to use them.

You do realize pro hormones are steroids right?

Edit: all I wanted to say about PHs. I know that talk isn't allowed in the supp section.
 
You do realize pro hormones are steroids right?

Edit: all I wanted to say about PHs. I know that talk isn't allowed in the supp section.

Yes I do know what they are.

Still, it's the consumers choice.

But all aside, I'm happy cause it means more R&D for natural studies and products.
 
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