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If craze gets pulled .....

I knew that it had an amphetamine analog in it. The whole question was is it naturally occurring and DESHA compliant. Mat Cahill submitted labs showing that the 2nbeta PEA was naturally occurring in the Dendrobium he had obtained. All the products that had it as an ingredient were pulled. But Dendrobium was never actioned as a standalone raw by the FDA as far as I know. This could change on time.
Without going through the whole argument again, I wanted to try and add Dendrobium to my pre-workout to see what happens. It does add some focus to the work out. But not quite like craze. I guess it’s all in the formula.
 
GHopkins said:
I knew that it had an amphetamine analog in it. The whole question was is it naturally occurring and DESHA compliant. Mat Cahill submitted labs showing that the 2nbeta PEA was naturally occurring in the Dendrobium he had obtained. All the products that had it as an ingredient were pulled. But Dendrobium was never actioned as a standalone raw by the FDA as far as I know. This could change on time. Without going through the whole argument again, I wanted to try and add Dendrobium to my pre-workout to see what happens. It does add some focus to the work out. But not quite like craze. I guess it’s all in the formula.
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I'm using Game Day by Man right now that has dendrobium and it's pretty solid. One of my favorites IMO.
 
Give level II by formutech a shot. A lot of people said it's the same feeling
 
I'm down to my last tub and it's half gone :/ hopefully maxout is legit, I'll probably switch to that when it's released.
 
I belive it to be legit. some of our reps have gotten a sample or two and they all said its pretty awesome. I too am looking forward to it.
 
There will never be another "compliant" or even a "non compliant" stimulant that feels like craze because of the inclusion of the amphetamines unlesssss of course another company decides to include amphetamines or any of its derivatives.
 
Nootropics in general give me a similar effect. Focus xt for one is different. It just as effective as far as mind muscle connection is concerned.
 
AustBenny said:
Don't miss it yet, saw the writing on the wall and stocked up. Only three sealed tubs left tho...then I'll cry.
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I'm with you. I grabbed like a case of this stuff when I heard about the ban and I've only used like 2 tubs of it. My basement looks like a warehouse.
 
quigs said:
I'm with you. I grabbed like a case of this stuff when I heard about the ban and I've only used like 2 tubs of it. My basement looks like a warehouse.
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Now your just teasing the craze addicts lmao wonder how many pm's you'll get for trades and stuff haha
 
I still use craze now & then but I found defcon 1 by Platinum Labs comes close to craze. Best substitute I found so far.
 
was dmaa the main stim in craze that got it pulled? what eveyone was calling meth?
 
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