NomZ Totals 1500+

[NomZ]

What's the difference in support between the blue and black. I've used the red one several times, but not the others. I understand that the black is similar to a multiply shirt, but how much does the blue help?

Blue is the lightest, the Reactive; Red is the Original I believe, and Black is extremely strong. The guys I was benching with said 1.5 ply. The Blue gives me about 20lbs off the bottom, Red about 50, and I'd agree with Herder about 80lbs from the black.

I was using a Large when I heard it tear trying to touch, I paused 2" off and pressed from there very easily.

 

[Rodja]

Blue is the lightest, the Reactive; Red is the Original I believe, and Black is extremely strong. The guys I was benching with said 1.5 ply. The Blue gives me about 20lbs off the bottom, Red about 50, and I'd agree with Herder about 80lbs from the black. I was using a Large when I heard it tear trying to touch, I paused 2" off and pressed from there very easily.

What kind of bench style would you say you use in terms of arch, foot positioning, etc.?

 

[NomZ]

What kind of bench style would you say you use in terms of arch, foot positioning, etc.?

My competition bench is a decent arch, tucked elbow, medium grip, with the ball of my feet planted underneath me.

 

[Rodja]

My competition bench is a decent arch, tucked elbow, medium grip, with the ball of my feet planted underneath me.

Cool. I wasn't sure if you used a flat foot or elevated foot.

 

[NomZ]

Cool. I wasn't sure if you used a flat foot or elevated foot.

Elevated is the only way I've been able to utilize leg drive.

 

[Rodja]

Elevated is the only way I've been able to utilize leg drive.

I've tried to do the wide stance bench, but can't get anything out of it.

 

[rob112]

I feel pretty comfortable wide foot but can't keep my ass on the bench that way at max loads

 

[CountryLiftin]

Guy I lift/bench with now (470 raw bencher @242 and in his 40s) does the wide stance/flat foot and his calves are also the size of my quads. Not really but they are big. He said he wants to train my bench once I get this shoulder rehabbed so I guess I'll see about learning it. As of now I'm the same with an elevated foot.

 

[LizKing531]

I started wide/flat foot then switched to elevated. I definitely have an easier time not lifting my butt elevated, but each way has taught me something.

Isn't it more or less federation dependent? some say flat, some don't care -

 

[Rodja]

I started wide/flat foot then switched to elevated. I definitely have an easier time not lifting my butt elevated, but each way has taught me something. Isn't it more or less federation dependent? some say flat, some don't care -

I think IPF/USAPL is the only fed that requires a flat foot.

 

[NomZ]

I think IPF/USAPL is the only fed that requires a flat foot.

Ya, pretty sure they're the only one. Also no head lifting off the bench as well.

 

[Rodja]

Ya, pretty sure they're the only one. Also no head lifting off the bench as well.

They have too many damn rules.

 

[NomZ]

They have too many damn rules.

Lol true that.

My main issue competing with them was the varying level of enforcement of those rules and the elitist attitudes of judges/competitors.

 

[Rodja]

Lol true that. My main issue competing with them was the varying level of enforcement of those rules and the elitist attitudes of judges/competitors.

The latter part can't be said enough. They somehow view themselves as the authority of PL'ing and every other federation out there is beneath them.

 

[Sean1332]

Gotta go with RPS! Gene Rychlak is determined to be cooler than everyone else. Zero rules to adhere to lol

 

[herderdude]

RPS all the way. Wear what you want, do it how you want, and the judging is good at the Columbus meets.

 

[rob112]

You guys have any full meets for RPS this winter in mind?

Edit: ****, realized in NomZ thread. I'd love to lift with you ma man but I can't see driving to Cali lol I was referring to the closet to PA guys

 

[Sean1332]

You guys have any full meets for RPS this winter in mind? Edit: ****, realized in NomZ thread. I'd love to lift with you ma man but I can't see driving to Cali lol I was referring to the closet to PA guys

Boston!

 

[rob112]

Boston!

If you have one planned like winterish time I will see what my money and work situations are like and try to do it.

I'll check there site for upcoming ones

 

[herderdude]

You guys have any full meets for RPS this winter in mind?

Edit: ****, realized in NomZ thread. I'd love to lift with you ma man but I can't see driving to Cali lol I was referring to the closet to PA guys

XXX is a blast! But Columbus would be quite the hike for you, I'm sure. One of these days I'm going to do a meet in York, but first I need to qualify for the Arnold.

 

[NomZ]

Been debating skipping RE deadlifts and doing ME block pulls instead today even though it's not what I need...then I tried to do a BW squat and my hammies lit up bc they're still sore from Monday. Guess RE sounds better...

 

[rob112]

Mind and body not on the same my friend

 

[herderdude]

Don't know what to tell you, man. Both sides of the coin have their pro's. You know what you need, but if today's not the day for reps, then it's not. There's always next week. Generally speaking, when I feel the itch to pull heavy, I scratch it.

 

[NomZ]

Hmm maybe Rob.

Don't know what to tell you, man. Both sides of the coin have their pro's. You know what you need, but if today's not the day for reps, then it's not. There's always next week. Generally speaking, when I feel the itch to pull heavy, I scratch it.

I'll just see how I feel when I get there, and if someone has baby powder.

 

[NomZ]

1 scoop Focus XT
1g SNS Agmatine

4" Deficit Deadlift
135x10225x5
315x5x5

Trap Bar Deadlift
from lower handle
225x5
315x5
+belt
405x5
405x4
405x4

Axle Clean and Press
95x3
145x3x1 clean + 3 presses
165x8x1 clean + 2 presses

2" Farmer Walk
115x50m w/turn
185x50m w/turn
235x50m w/no turn and 2 drops
235x50m w/turn and 1 drop
235x50m w/no turn and no drops

Some random prowler work and rope climbing

Arm Wrestling
Lost right arm
Won left
Won left

I'm wrecked.

Figured out a better grip on the farmers, instead of clamping a thumb on the opposite site, I just palmed the handle and wrapped around with my thumb and fingers on the same side. Thoughts jimbuick?

 

[jimbuick]

1 scoop Focus XT
1g SNS Agmatine

4" Deficit Deadlift
135x10225x5
315x5x5

Trap Bar Deadlift
from lower handle
225x5
315x5
+belt
405x5
405x4
405x4

Axle Clean and Press
95x3
145x3x1 clean + 3 presses
165x8x1 clean + 2 presses

2" Farmer Walk
115x50m w/turn
185x50m w/turn
235x50m w/no turn and 2 drops
235x50m w/turn and 1 drop
235x50m w/no turn and no drops

Some random prowler work and rope climbing

Arm Wrestling
Lost right arm
Won left
Won left

I'm wrecked.

Figured out a better grip on the farmers, instead of clamping a thumb on the opposite site, I just palmed the handle and wrapped around with my thumb and fingers on the same side. Thoughts jimbuick?

False gripping? Hmm, most people palm it but still wrap the thumb around it.


Basically, the way I've been told is to set it high in the palm, wrap the thumb from there, and squeeze. That way when it slides down your hand (and it will) it will bunch up some skin under it and help you hold on longer. Which, unfortunately, is how so many people tear their hands up doing them.

 

[NomZ]

False gripping? Hmm, most people palm it but still wrap the thumb around it.


Basically, the way I've been told is to set it high in the palm, wrap the thumb from there, and squeeze. That way when it slides down your hand (and it will) it will bunch up some skin under it and help you hold on longer. Which, unfortunately, is how so many people tear their hands up doing them.

Ya, the false grip worked better for me.

I have very smally hands for my height, most girls have the same size hands as me... I just don't see how I can palm it and have my thumb on the other side, my thumb basically ends up on top of the handle.

I was basically setting it in the meat of my palm with some wrist flexion, the bunching up similar to how you said happened naturally.

2" handles are pretty standard too right?

 

[herderdude]

Yikes. All kinds of brutal stuff going on. 4" deficit, I could totally reach that bar! Maybe. Good to see you got your reps in. Did you go all Travis Bagent for your armwrestling matches?

 

[jimbuick]

Ya, the false grip worked better for me.

I have very smally hands for my height, most girls have the same size hands as me... I just don't see how I can palm it and have my thumb on the other side, my thumb basically ends up on top of the handle.

I was basically setting it in the meat of my palm with some wrist flexion, the bunching up similar to how you said happened naturally.

2" handles are pretty standard too right?

That actually sounds about right, your thumb will be on top at first but after you start walking a little your wrist will turn and the thumb will end up wrapped around the side/bottom.

My hands are small too, which sucks for strongman but all we can do is make the hands stronger. Also, 2" sounds about right.

 

[aceroni]

Word on the street is SPF are depth nazis, lol

 

[NomZ]

Yikes. All kinds of brutal stuff going on. 4" deficit, I could totally reach that bar! Maybe. Good to see you got your reps in. Did you go all Travis Bagent for your armwrestling matches?

4" was awful, my leg drive on conventionals is downright awful and both of these really showed how weak I am.

I had to look up this Bagent guy, na rly. I'm a pretty calm-mannered man in general. He seems like a strong-ass douchebag, lol. He do crossfit too?

That actually sounds about right, your thumb will be on top at first but after you start walking a little your wrist will turn and the thumb will end up wrapped around the side/bottom.

My hands are small too, which sucks for strongman but all we can do is make the hands stronger. Also, 2" sounds about right.

Ok, I'll try that next time, the false grip just felt night and day in terms of how much stronger it felt. You can see the difference in my sets, the last two were false grip and did better each set, despite the fatigue building up.

Indeed, just gotta be stronger.

 

[NomZ]

Word on the street is SPF are depth nazis, lol

If you mean they hate squats to depth and want them wiped from existence, then yes.

 

[herderdude]

Hahaha. No way he does Crossfit. Crossfitters train legs. Also, I don't think Crossfit is coming to West Virginia until about 2017.

 

[NomZ]

Hahaha. No way he does Crossfit. Crossfitters train legs. Also, I don't think Crossfit is coming to West Virginia until about 2017.

I see him in a lot of Xfit vids, and consider yourself lucky then...Xfit regionals were held at my university gym this year, I didn't go to that gym once that weekend.

 

[Randoja]

Hey buddy. Subbed.

 

[herderdude]

I see him in a lot of Xfit vids, and consider yourself lucky then...Xfit regionals were held at my university gym this year, I didn't go to that gym once that weekend.

Holy shït he does do Crossfit! Wtf! As if there weren't enough people in the sport to sully it. I hear he's got a public side and a private side, and he figured WWF style arm wrestling could pay the bills.

 

[NomZ]

Randoja glad to have you buddy! You're training log on here too?

Holy shït he does do Crossfit! Wtf! As if there weren't enough people in the sport to sully it. I hear he's got a public side and a private side, and he figured WWF style arm wrestling could pay the bills.

lol told you. Ya I imagine there's a lot of showmanship involved...

 

[Randoja]

Yeah its called gains featuring randoja, I can't link it from phone, but I'll bump it.

 

[NomZ]

1 scoop Focus XT
1g SNS Agmatine

Pullup
BWx15

Strict OHP
45x15
90x5
115x5

Push Jerk
135x3
155x5x3

Rebound Push Press
155x8
155x8
115x7

Pullup
BWx3x10

Seated Cable Row
135x15
135x12
135x10

Forearm Rehab

Traps so sore from farmers, made pressing a pain.

 

[rob112]

Who does pull ups in the double digits these days?

I just do set of 2 to 10. That's 5 work sets man!

 

[NomZ]

Who does pull ups in the double digits these days?

I just do set of 2 to 10. That's 5 work sets man!

I used to do sets of 20!


1 scoop Focus XT

Squat
45x10
135x10
225x3
275x3
+belt
315x3
365x3
395x1
415x5
415x5
415x5
HiBar Beltless Squat
225x8
275x7
275x7
275x7

Unilateral Leg Press
1ppsx3x10

Calves

Hyper
+45x30

Ran out of time for this workout, so pretty short. Wanted more reps with 415, but pretty sure that's a volume PR at that weight anyways, so not complaining.

 

[herderdude]

All over that volume with 415. That'll do, pig.

 

[bolt10]

All over that volume with 415. That'll do, pig.

^^^What this guy said.

 

[Randoja]

Nice work, really making 415 your bitch there. I love to humiliate the weight like that. Volume PRs are fun sometimes.

 

[NomZ]

All over that volume with 415. That'll do, pig.

Thanks Babe, pig in the city.

Nice work, really making 415 your bitch there. I love to humiliate the weight like that. Volume PRs are fun sometimes.

Ya budday.


1 scoop Focus XT

Standing Strict OHP
45x15
95x5
120x5
140x8, 115x9 RP

CG Bench
+strict, elbows tucked entire set
135x3x10

Comp. WG Pause Bench
185x3x3
+Reactive Slingshot
225x7
225x5
225x7

Benching was awful, first i was on a ****ty bench that was too low and had a slip-n-slide bench, plus no liftoff. Only had a liftoff on the final set and that set felt great.

BO Row
135x10
185x10
225x8
225x8
225x8

DB Hammer Curl
35x3x10

3 Way Raise
10'sx3x15 Front + Lateral + Rear

Forearm Rehab

 

[Randoja]

I finally had to stop benching on ****ty benches all together. Those sound just like the ones at the 24 hr I train at sometimes. So frustrating trying to work on any kind of technique, Brb leg drive slightly and you are sliding backwards.

 

[NomZ]

I finally had to stop benching on ****ty benches all together. Those sound just like the ones at the 24 hr I train at sometimes. So frustrating trying to work on any kind of technique, Brb leg drive slightly and you are sliding backwards.

This was a 24hr. There is one good bench, a bro was doing half reps and I asked how many sets he has. "Just starting bro, there's a bench right there" points to a bench so narrow it can't fit half my back on it. No thanks.

Managed to steal the good one for my last two sets.

 

[aceroni]

I take one of my older efs bands and wrap it length wise around the bench. It stops all sliding.
If you can do it with two bands that's even better.

 

[Randoja]

This was a 24hr. There is one good bench, a bro was doing half reps and I asked how many sets he has. "Just starting bro, there's a bench right there" points to a bench so narrow it can't fit half my back on it. No thanks.

Managed to steal the good one for my last two sets.

Yeah man, that's the 24hr fitness blues. I went to mine today and found a dude, old enough to have a mustache, looked at least 170 lbs, half squatting 95lbs, struggling. I set up a little box jump thing and just watched him superset these pathetic attempts at squats with cable triceps extensions. I was putting on my knee sleeves right by the rack when he loads 135, half squats it, and I loudly say "all the way down" and boom turns out that was his last set lol. 135 already on there to warm up. I hate 24 hr fitness, but its way closer than EPC, so I squat there.

 

[NomZ]

I take one of my older efs bands and wrap it length wise around the bench. It stops all sliding.
If you can do it with two bands that's even better.

Good idea.


1 scoop Focus XT
2 intra-wo Popeye's honey sauce packets

Conventional DE Deadlift
135x8
225x3
+against monster minis
315x8x2 (~385 at top)

2" Axle Clean & Press
+DOH
145x3
165x3x2
195x3x1
215x1 PR
+continental clean only
215x0
215x0
215x0
215x1

Really trying to figure it out transitioning from the belly to the rack position after switching my grip. I had a hard time popping it up into the rack.

Pause HiBar Squat
+3sec pause
225x5x3

1.25" Farmer Walk
115x25m w/turn
+no turns
205x25m
205x25m
255x25m PR
255x12.5m

Keg Clean & Press
+non-staggered grip
120x3x3
+staggered grip
120x3

Remembered staggered grip is way easier, but need a heavier keg.