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Can We Have A Mature Discussion About Race?

You are kidding right? Racism is not right - pure and simple. You trying to find excuses why she racist. That's not your problem but hers.
Racism must be stamped out. Through education and the simple right to exist regardless of colour etc.
Man it's your duty as a human being. Fight the good fight. **** the worst thing in the world is for good people to do nothing in bad situations.
She expressing her power of something that is totally wrong! Very dangerous indeed.

You don't need to tell me racism isn't right... I'm on the receiving end of it... I do believe I would be enabling this behaviour if I don't say anything about it... There are two problems I am faced with here... 1) I am surrounded by white people here & everywhere 2) I'd be alone in this decision because most people that are also affected by this, are also little ********* that would rather stay quiet just to keep the "peace"...

I've noticed most people here that are victims of racism are also from less fortunate countries... For them the racism is nothing compared to the threat of being bombed or whatever in their hometowns... You feel me?
 
I'd go ahead and say that along with racism, bigotry, oppression and any type of behavior that tries to tell one individual or group how to live their lives should also be "stamped out". So much of this goes on today and it gets overlooked.

Btw, as long as people are normal (aka selfish), there will always be racism. At the root of all evil is pride - and that especially includes racism.

And I also strongly believe as stated before that no one will stop being racist until individuals from that race become close friends/family to them. It just has to happen before the eyes are open to compassion.

Staying or becoming friends with these people would mean putting my pride & morals aside just to possibly make a difference to one person... In this day & age, along with the direction this world is heading in, do you think it's worth it? If you can can the mind of someone that was brainwashed in the first place, the odds of them being brainwashed again are pretty damn high...
 
Staying or becoming friends with these people would mean putting my pride & morals aside just to possibly make a difference to one person... In this day & age, along with the direction this world is heading in, do you think it's worth it? If you can can the mind of someone that was brainwashed in the first place, the odds of them being brainwashed again are pretty damn high...
That's up to you to decide man. Are you going to try and make a difference or are you going to except things for what they are?
 
Something tells me that not letting them have the best of both worlds would be the most direct approach... By that I mean ceasing training based on the fact that they want my help, but think they are superior in some way... Otherwise I'm like a slave that's getting paid... This is a bit harsh, but why would I help prolong someone's life through fitness, when they probably don't want me or anyone else not of their color around...
 
Staying or becoming friends with these people would mean putting my pride & morals aside just to possibly make a difference to one person... In this day & age, along with the direction this world is heading in, do you think it's worth it? If you can can the mind of someone that was brainwashed in the first place, the odds of them being brainwashed again are pretty damn high...

Thats a personal call. But to me, yes. One person makes a difference. That one person could influence two others, who then influence 5 people each, and so on. It can make an impact. The power of multiplication.

Anyways, this is fundamentally an issue of character and pride. So to see somone become humble and loving to those who are different, this doesnt just affect racism - its gonna impact everything in their life.
 
That's up to you to decide man. Are you going to try and make a difference or are you going to except things for what they are?

In all honesty bro, I'm trying to figure out how to approach this without straight up telling her & anyone like her to do us a favor & go die in a ditch somewhere & stop polluting this earth with their bull$hit beliefs...
 
Would anyone here go to an all black neighbourhood & complain to someone there that someone there doesn't like white people?
 
Would anyone here go to an all black neighbourhood & complain to someone there that someone there doesn't like white people?

Are we talking die hard with a vengeance style? Or going in with a friend and having a conversation with someone they know?
 
In all honesty bro, I'm trying to figure out how to approach this without straight up telling her & anyone like her to do us a favor & go die in a ditch somewhere & stop polluting this earth with their bull$hit beliefs...

I think that the best thing you can do for the both of you is to provide an ultra positive impact in this ladies life. This will leave a lasting impression on her possibly changing her view on race in general. And the fact that she feels a small amount of shame is showing that it is already taking hold. This will also help your finances, which is the reason you started training this gal in the first place.
 
I think that the best thing you can do for the both of you is to provide an ultra positive impact in this ladies life. This will leave a lasting impression on her possibly changing her view on race in general. And the fact that she feels a small amount of shame is showing that it is already taking hold. This will also help your finances, which is the reason you started training this gal in the first place.

I guess I will just see how it goes... If the topic comes up again, I'll just tell her in the nicest way I can what the fu¢k is wrong with her... I'm not out to hurt someone that's basically stupid in my eyes, but it may happen because she isn't the strongest of characters... There are always casualties in war I guess...
 
I guess I will just see how it goes... If the topic comes up again, I'll just tell her in the nicest way I can what the fu¢k is wrong with her... I'm not out to hurt someone that's basically stupid in my eyes, but it may happen because she isn't the strongest of characters... There are always casualties in war I guess...

I agree, if she is stupid enough to bring up that topic again she deserves to be set straight. Just save those text for posterity sake
 
Go in with a friend that wouldn't back you up if it got ugly?

I wouldn't have a problem with it. Things can get ugly with just about every conversation. Shoot look at the fights that happen over sports
 
Oh boys, calm your tits down...
 
I agree, if she is stupid enough to bring up that topic again she deserves to be set straight. Just save those text for posterity sake

She was stupid enough to bring it up the first time, which I still find really strange... The texts are saved...
 
I'm kinda thinking that she might have sensed some kind of vibe that you wanted to be with her and this is her way of letting you know she's not interested. She is probably off her rocker with what she thought you wanted because it would be totally unprofessional of you to get involved with a client. Regardless, she being stupid.
 
I'm kinda thinking that she might have sensed some kind of vibe that you wanted to be with her and this is her way of letting you know she's not interested. She is probably off her rocker with what she thought you wanted because it would be totally unprofessional of you to get involved with a client. Regardless, she being stupid.

I think you're right! Lol, I've used the I don't date this race card just so my best friend would stop hitting on me. It worked and we've been friends for years.
 
I'm kinda thinking that she might have sensed some kind of vibe that you wanted to be with her and this is her way of letting you know she's not interested. She is probably off her rocker with what she thought you wanted because it would be totally unprofessional of you to get involved with a client. Regardless, she being stupid.

Haha! It's funny you say that, because that's one of the things that came to my mind also... If that is the case, all I can say is she thinks way to highly of herself... It's kind of ironic that single chicks are the ones that assume guys are always hitting on them... Especially the ugly ones...
 
I think you're right! Lol, I've used the I don't date this race card just so my best friend would stop hitting on me. It worked and we've been friends for years.

Use race against me & it's unlikely going to lead to continued friendship... I'll as long as she needs/wants or until she says anything about race again, then that's it... I feel if she did think I was hitting on her, I should just stop being nice to chicks unless I actually to want them... I fu¢kin hate people that think they are hotter than they are... The coolest chicks are the ones with partners these days... Single chicks are so fu¢kin uptight... Have they ever thought that if they are so desirable, they wouldn't be single... Now I feel like punching someone in the face... Woossssaahhhh!
 
Use race against me & it's unlikely going to lead to continued friendship... I'll as long as she needs/wants or until she says anything about race again, then that's it... I feel if she did think I was hitting on her, I should just stop being nice to chicks unless I actually to want them... I fu¢kin hate people that think they are hotter than they are... The coolest chicks are the ones with partners these days... Single chicks are so fu¢kin uptight... Have they ever thought that if they are so desirable, they wouldn't be single... Now I feel like punching someone in the face... Woossssaahhhh!

Haha, I only told him that so he would stop sending me c*ck pics. I know, lame, but it worked. :D
 
He was basically harassing you, so I guess it's cool... I never understood sending **** pics...

Haha, he wanted me to tell him how big he was. I said nooooo, I'm scared of the big ***** D.
 
I've been called every racist name in the book and deal w racist people all the time. Racists are ignorant people and should be dealt with accordingly
 
I've been called every racist name in the book and deal w racist people all the time. Racists are ignorant people and should be dealt with accordingly

I find it unfortunate that it's not legal to use violence against such people...
 
Another thing I thought of was maybe she is wanting to quit but doesn't have the nerve to quit so she's trying to get you to quit. That way she can keep face in front of her friends by saying you flaked and she just hasn't been able to find a good trainer to take over.
 
Another thing I thought of was maybe she is wanting to quit but doesn't have the nerve to quit so she's trying to get you to quit. That way she can keep face in front of her friends by saying you flaked and she just hasn't been able to find a good trainer to take over.

That's unlikely... She absolutely loves training... If she approached dieting the same way, she might have a reason to think she's got guys wanting to hook up with her...
 
I've been called every racist name in the book and deal w racist people all the time. Racists are ignorant people and should be dealt with accordingly

Not to misinterpret, but you look white in your avvie.......
 
I'd tell him that he's an ignorant dumbass. There's no such thing as different races. This has been proven genetically for over a decade now. The only difference is the degree of genetic melanin expression. There isn't even any difference in the pigment color of melanin. It's all brown.
 
White people can't be called racist names lol please tell me you're joking.::

I can think of honky, but don't see that as an insult.

Idk I live in northern Maine and its a rare occurance seeing a person of color up here lol but there's plenty of white people who are POS for sure...

I was an army brat born in Germany so I get the whole "hey you're a nazi" a lot, although I'm 50/50 english/canadian french so who knows!!!

Enlighten me!

I do dislike prolly 98% of indians on reservations up here who brag "stupid white boys" pay for all their shizzles, but whatevs I guess!!
 
I can think of honky, but don't see that as an insult. Idk I live in northern Maine and its a rare occurance seeing a person of color up here lol but there's plenty of white people who are POS for sure... I was an army brat born in Germany so I get the whole "hey you're a nazi" a lot, although I'm 50/50 english/canadian french so who knows!!! Enlighten me! I do dislike prolly 98% of indians on reservations up here who brag "stupid white boys" pay for all their shizzles, but whatevs I guess!!
I don't wanna hijack this thread but there's a lot of other racist names to call white people. Anyone of any race can be a racist....
 
I don't wanna hijack this thread but there's a lot of other racist names to call white people. Anyone of any race can be a racist....

It's true... I think the people that find this most controversial, are also the ones that hear "racism" & automatically think it's aimed only at black people...

Racism = the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
 
Oh I've been on the recieving end when the only store to buy beer was on a reservation, and run by indians.

And of course being a new kid moving from base to base every few years.

But it don't bother this white bread redneck hillbilly honky ass cracker!!
 
As it has been said before. She has some level of trust and/or respect for you since she has worked with you for 10 months. I don't think you mentioned it before, but did she start out this way from the beginning, or did it start to come out as time went on? Most likely as she became comfortable around you. Either way, I would have to tell her to grow up if it was me. You've obviously proven yourself as a gentleman and a good trainer if you haven't had any sketchy situations. Obviously you nor anyone else has to prove your worth as a human, you just have to prove to people you're not an ******* sometimes. I know when I deal with the public, someone's first impression on me is bad, but I try to get them off of whatever has made them mad at my company, and get them talking about something else, usually themselves, while I work.

Its definitely a tricky situation and since none of us know your work atmosphere we can only help so far. She said she knows its wrong but she don't want to change so I would straight tell her how disrespectful she is to you. That's called immaturity and she needs to be called on it. If you work at a fitness center and there are other trainers, I would have a sit down with the boss and fill them in. And tell them if she quits on you why it is so you can be in front of any fall out she try to create. If she keeps on making ignorant statements that are offensive to you I would tell her so. You aren't "the help". You are a professional that she chose to hire and apparently keep as a coach. If she doesn't have a problem with you you should just point out she's not really a racist and she shouldn't keep acting like she is. And if you feel compelled to terminate your service, no one will blame you. You nor anyone else shod be forced to work in a hostile environment. Whether its with people calling you slurs or curse words. Or just using profanity in general is offensive to me and isn't necessary and I refuse to work with or for someone that chooses to curse at me.
 
As it has been said before. She has some level of trust and/or respect for you since she has worked with you for 10 months. I don't think you mentioned it before, but did she start out this way from the beginning, or did it start to come out as time went on? Most likely as she became comfortable around you. Either way, I would have to tell her to grow up if it was me. You've obviously proven yourself as a gentleman and a good trainer if you haven't had any sketchy situations. Obviously you nor anyone else has to prove your worth as a human, you just have to prove to people you're not an ******* sometimes. I know when I deal with the public, someone's first impression on me is bad, but I try to get them off of whatever has made them mad at my company, and get them talking about something else, usually themselves, while I work.

Its definitely a tricky situation and since none of us know your work atmosphere we can only help so far. She said she knows its wrong but she don't want to change so I would straight tell her how disrespectful she is to you. That's called immaturity and she needs to be called on it. If you work at a fitness center and there are other trainers, I would have a sit down with the boss and fill them in. And tell them if she quits on you why it is so you can be in front of any fall out she try to create. If she keeps on making ignorant statements that are offensive to you I would tell her so. You aren't "the help". You are a professional that she chose to hire and apparently keep as a coach. If she doesn't have a problem with you you should just point out she's not really a racist and she shouldn't keep acting like she is. And if you feel compelled to terminate your service, no one will blame you. You nor anyone else shod be forced to work in a hostile environment. Whether its with people calling you slurs or curse words. Or just using profanity in general is offensive to me and isn't necessary and I refuse to work with or for someone that chooses to curse at me.

The fact that she just came out with this a week ago, sort of makes me think she is a little too comfortable... Had I known this in the beginning, I wouldn't be training her today... I don't try to prove myself to anyone I know, although I am constantly having to show people that their first impression of me(based on my look) is wrong... They all come around once we talk... So that's not a problem...

My work atmosphere us good, but I do stand out a little... It's both because of my color & the way I carry myself... I will definitely be having some words with her in the near future, because I know I'm not "the help" even though that's almost exactly what this is... I plan on making her understand exactly what being racist means, & finding out if that is in fact what she is...
 
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