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First day with Nolvadren XT !!!

DaveMcNaul

DaveMcNaul

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well, my first day.

I hope to reduce my anxiety, lost some fat and get a gret shredded look.

2 caps nolvadren xt at meal 14:00 aprox
1 cap omega 3 (14:00 and 1 cap at night ) knee pain.

I have a knee pain, hopefully this product not kill me.
 
Really good formula, joint pain will be user dependent but I got none from it.
 
SwolenONE said:
Really good formula, joint pain will be user dependent but I got none from it.
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thanks for the answer

but , the omega can help with this, i hope :S

is my first day, i cant feel nothing but i have some hypochondria for my light anxiety xDD

( the anticortisol compounds sounds good )
 
DaveMcNaul said:
can i get hair problems with this product?
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no. I didn't have dry joints on nolvadren either. If it does flare up you can use ax joint restore. I really enjoyed it.

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I take Orange Triad multi and any joint discomfort I've had has gone away. If you have more than usual discomfort, check out Animal Flex, from what I have read, that stuff is very good.
 
DaveMcNaul said:
7-Keto reduce cortisol , the stress hormone ( less stress less anxiety ) when u have anxiety, up ur cortisol levels
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Yes, so you have this in reverse. If I punch you in the face and you start bleeding, will stopping the bleeding mean that I never punched you in the face? Of course not.You can lower cortisol all you want, but cortisol is rising IN RESPONSE to anxiety. If you reduce cortisol via supplements, your anxiety will still be there, just like your face will still be black and blue tomorrow despite no bleeding.
 
By the way, cortisol is a hormone that helps you cope with stress (hence its release in response to stress). So reducing it may actually raise anxiety by preventing the normal physiological compensatory response
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yes, so you have this in reverse. If I punch you in the face and you start bleeding, will stopping the bleeding mean that I never punched you in the face? Of course not.You can lower cortisol all you want, but cortisol is rising IN RESPONSE to anxiety. If you reduce cortisol via supplements, your anxiety will still be there, just like your face will still be black and blue tomorrow despite no bleeding.
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This is an interesting analogy. Do u feel that relora's anxiety-reducing qualities don't have anything to do with the fact that it reduces cortisol (I read an article here that it was proven to reduce cortisol and am assuming that to be accurate... I know it and also ashwagandha relax me and also help fight fat storage)?
 
I started feeling the effects of Nolvadren XT after about 5 days of use. My joints in my knees
started to make clicking / cracking noises. After 3 weeks on the full dose, I back down to 1
pill a day for the rest of the cycle. I will say that if definitely works, I was very drier, leaner
and more vascular while using it and enjoyed the positive effects despite the joint issues.

I ran Fish Oils @ 3g per day & also took Joint Support w/ Chrondroitin, Glucocasamine & MSM.
Next time I will use with Cissus & Hyaluronic Acid instead
 
vujade said:
I started feeling the effects of Nolvadren XT after about 5 days of use. My joints in my knees
started to make clicking / cracking noises. After 3 weeks on the full dose, I back down to 1
pill a day for the rest of the cycle. I will say that if definitely works, I was very drier, leaner
and more vascular while using it and enjoyed the positive effects despite the joint issues.

I ran Fish Oils @ 3g per day & also took Joint Support w/ Chrondroitin, Glucocasamine & MSM.
Next time I will use with Cissus & Hyaluronic Acid instead
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3 days with Nolva, and today , my mood is good, i feel better.

my knee, not change.

yesterday , training arms, great pumps.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yes, so you have this in reverse. If I punch you in the face and you start bleeding, will stopping the bleeding mean that I never punched you in the face? Of course not.You can lower cortisol all you want, but cortisol is rising IN RESPONSE to anxiety. If you reduce cortisol via supplements, your anxiety will still be there, just like your face will still be black and blue tomorrow despite no bleeding.
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yes, today , my mood is cool.the anxiety , is a fuking problem with bad thoughts ( in my person, thinking about my health, death scare , one day, i smoked weed and these day, i had a "white punch", one year with anxiety for smoke some weed LOL )...for this reason, take any supplement, make me distrust ( pre-workouts give me bad feelings, i took pwork much times in my life, bad to nervous system)....irresponsible
 
Just finished my bottle a few days ago. I ran a bottle of OG Erase first and then ran the bottle of Nolvadren XT. It's a very good product IMO, best MAN product I've used thus far and by miles.
 
kissdadookie said:
Just finished my bottle a few days ago. I ran a bottle of OG Erase first and then ran the bottle of Nolvadren XT. It's a very good product IMO, best MAN product I've used thus far and by miles.
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X2 my fav in the line now that Clout is gone.
 
tyrub42 said:
This is an interesting analogy. Do u feel that relora's anxiety-reducing qualities don't have anything to do with the fact that it reduces cortisol (I read an article here that it was proven to reduce cortisol and am assuming that to be accurate... I know it and also ashwagandha relax me and also help fight fat storage)?
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Everyone is thinking in reverse here for some reason. Relora reduces cortisol because it reduces anxiety. 7-keto reduces cortisol conversion in tissues without affecting anxiety
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Everyone is thinking in reverse here for some reason. Relora reduces cortisol because it reduces anxiety. 7-keto reduces cortisol conversion in tissues
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Wouldn't that mean that alprazolam and other benzos reduce cortisol more effectively than relora (as they reduce anxiety much more than adaptogens like relora)? Do things like meditation and yoga also reduce cortisol?

Also doesn't cortisol have a whole lot of things that hurt people's ability to deal with stress? Things like insomnia, fat storage, and food cravings all seem like they would have helped people deal with stresses 10000 years ago when stress was coming from things like animal attacks and famine, but in the modern world those things tend to make stress worse instead of better. I know I am probably missing something (or many things), but wouldn't you agree that cortisol can do pretty negative things in modern-day stressful situations?
 
tyrub42 said:
Wouldn't that mean that alprazolam and other benzos reduce cortisol more effectively than relora (as they reduce anxiety much more than adaptogens like relora)? Do things like meditation and yoga also reduce cortisol?Also doesn't cortisol have a whole lot of things that hurt people's ability to deal with stress? Things like insomnia, fat storage, and food cravings all seem like they would have helped people deal with stresses 10000 years ago when stress was coming from things like animal attacks and famine, but in the modern world those things tend to make stress worse instead of better. I know I am probably missing something (or many things), but wouldn't you agree that cortisol can do pretty negative things in modern-day stressful situations?
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Yes I'm sure benzos also reduce cortisol, but benzos are also habit forming, sedating, etc. I'm sure yoga and meditation reduce cortisol too.Cortisol IS the stress response. All the things you listed are not products of cortisol. They are products of absolutely uncontrolled cortisol release (i.e. Cushing's disease). Cortisol is a glucocorticoid. Its function is to increase blood glucose in response to stress. This rise in glucose gives you energy to mobilize to deal with a stressful event. Simply put: Excess cortisol is bad. Normal cortisol response is good.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yes I'm sure benzos also reduce cortisol, but benzos are also habit forming, sedating, etc. I'm sure yoga and meditation reduce cortisol too.Cortisol IS the stress response. All the things you listed are not products of cortisol. They are products of absolutely uncontrolled cortisol release (i.e. Cushing's disease). Cortisol is a glucocorticoid. Its function is to increase blood glucose in response to stress. This rise in glucose gives you energy to mobilize to deal with a stressful event. Simply put: Excess cortisol is bad. Normal cortisol response is good.
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Thanks man! I am sure I am still missing something but I have a much clearer idea of it now.
 
aaronuconn said:
I liked Layne Norton's video blog on this notion, specifically the cortisol response to exercise.
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You can also search for ZiR RED and cortisol. He brings up some good points
 
please, any answer ? This thursday i will go to make a bloodwork (allergies and CBC platelets etc )im with nolvadren (5 days ) . can i make the bloodwork during the cycle ? or is better stop it ? i have some petechial spots ( 3 years with this petechial in my legs ) perhaps the nolvadren can modify any valuethanks!
 
ok, im with 1 cap ED or EOD, i feel dry joints :S results :hard lookmore vascularitybut, can i take 1 cap EOD ? this is so strong , i think...
 
DaveMcNaul said:
ok, im with 1 cap ED or EOD, i feel dry joints :S results :hard lookmore vascularitybut, can i take 1 cap EOD ? this is so strong , i think...
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I started out with 1 cap for the 1st 7 days. I felt it working about day 5. I then went to 2 pills a day for a week and couldnt handle it and ended up
backing it down to 1 pill a day for another few weeks. And then the last week I was at 1 pill EOD.
 
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