If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

bdcc said:
Noticed better pumps after doing more volume?

I want someone with the most objective, volume load equated logs lol.

*Looks longingly at Hayden*
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You'd be good for that as well. Was thinking about logging after I lean out a bit and can spare the finds for it. I'd need two bottles but ATM my website is my priority.

I'd like someone to log who has everything planned out and has run a specific program long enough to know what kind of strength increments and body comp changes are to be expected after 8 weeks regardless of the addition of supplements.

No change in intensity, volume, rep ranges above or below what is planned and eating at the same intake they were prior to beginning or adding/ subtracting if that is what the trend was prior to starting. In other words, not changing anything drastically.
 
clobrown said:
so about 10 days til it hit online retailers?
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Looks like it might be faster.
I just hired someone on to do manufacturing and we should hopefully be able to ship on tues to retailers.
This means we can allow pre sales hopefully Tues!
 
brundel said:
Looks like it might be faster.
I just hired someone on to do manufacturing and we should hopefully be able to ship on tues to retailers.
This means we can allow pre sales hopefully Tues!
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hurry pls lol i only have myosynergy so far im liking this stuff want to try the compound on its own. will stack both
 
brundel said:
Looks like it might be faster.
I just hired someone on to do manufacturing and we should hopefully be able to ship on tues to retailers.
This means we can allow pre sales hopefully Tues!
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Damn, not soon enough. Out of the country this weekend. Prob limited access if any to internet. The $49.99 price tag is steep, but if it does what it claims it'll be worth it. Any chance you'll also run a 2 bottle (with price break) deal?
 
hey guys just wanted to update how my run is going so far. I have not been keeping track of all my progress, but from what I do have it shows great improvements. I stopped my cut to see how much I could gain so I started eating at maintenance after 1.5 weeks on follidrone. Even on my cut my top end reps were increasing. So I know that my strength increases were not all due to my calorie increase. Now I'm in my 5th week and strength just keeps going up. My squat/OHP/bench and other things have all improved. Yesterday I actually hit some new numbers on BB bench press: Prior to follidrone I was doing 225x5 yesterdays BB bench press work load was: 135x15 225x7 255x5 255x5 275x3 I also hit a PR on my incline BB bench yesterday My weight also seems to be increasing slowly. Started around 179-180 and now I am at 187(after 4 weeks). I am almost just as lean as I started too, I'd say I gained about 1-2lbs of fat. (gained some fat because for 2 weeks on random days I would have a lot of sweets/junk food) I know for a fact that with what I was eating during those two weeks I should have gained MORE fat but for some reason I did not. I'm really thinking about buying another bottle and running it for a full 12 weeks, I'm waiting for the re-stock!
 
kisaj said:
I love all the requests for sales and deals when he can't even keep up with demand at retail.
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His first run was at a sales price ;)

But given the cost of the raws, he wouldnt want to give much away at a loss. 500 units already is more than enough IMO.
 
With such decent result that's been seen this far, this product is fully worth its price tag in comparison to MANY thing Ive even wasted money on!
 
loxxis said:
hey guys just wanted to update how my run is going so far. I have not been keeping track of all my progress, but from what I do have it shows great improvements. I stopped my cut to see how much I could gain so I started eating at maintenance after 1.5 weeks on follidrone. Even on my cut my top end reps were increasing. So I know that my strength increases were not all due to my calorie increase. Now I'm in my 5th week and strength just keeps going up. My squat/OHP/bench and other things have all improved. Yesterday I actually hit some new numbers on BB bench press: Prior to follidrone I was doing 225x5 yesterdays BB bench press work load was: 135x15 225x7 255x5 255x5 275x3 I also hit a PR on my incline BB bench yesterday My weight also seems to be increasing slowly. Started around 179-180 and now I am at 187(after 4 weeks). I am almost just as lean as I started too, I'd say I gained about 1-2lbs of fat. (gained some fat because for 2 weeks on random days I would have a lot of sweets/junk food) I know for a fact that with what I was eating during those two weeks I should have gained MORE fat but for some reason I did not. I'm really thinking about buying another bottle and running it for a full 12 weeks, I'm waiting for the re-stock!
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Wow good job on the PRs bro. 50lb increase on your BP is no joke!
Neither is 8lbs in 4 weeks or even shorter as you were cutting at the beginning.

All in all great results man. Thanks for posting!

We are starting manufacturing on tues and should be able to start shipping on wed next week.
 
And I agree about the price. Its worth it. Before I released it I had asked a few times in our subforum threads if guys would gladly pay 50~ish dollars for a product if I could pretty much guarantee it would meet or exceed any other product in its class.
100% said yes so....I pulled the trigger.
Glad I did. This stuff has vastly exceeded my initial expectations.

I thought maybe a few lbs. + 10% strength. Max.
We are seeing ALOT more than that in pretty much every user. 8-10lbs in a large portion of the logs.
PLus PRs for every logger....

Not bad. Well worth 50$
 
brundel said:
It doesnt really compare. Myo has less than 50% of the dose of epicatechin. Since this is whats causing the results in follidrone you can expect probably less than half the result. Plus forskolin and i think broccoli extracts if i recall correctly.
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Myo has other interesting/importante ingredientes also beyond those, it's a very complete formula, so I agree it's not comparable altough in the same natural anabolics cathegory.
 
Brundel can chime in but I'm curious to see more post Folli run loss of strength and weight/muscle as I've seen a couple of mentions of this. With all the recent logs I'd like to see what happens 4-6 weeks after although I know there are always various circumstances surrounding each user after a run.
 
brundel said:
Also for you guys who have been waiting on this....
Our TOngkat Boron mix-VIRON will be ready for pre sale tomorrow most likely. Labels shipped yesterday. So Ill have em tomorrow.
Ill get a write up done later tonight.
I think youll be surprised what these two ingredients can do.
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Make sure to let us know when it is up. As of right not it has not been posted
 
brundel said:
Also for you guys who have been waiting on this....
Our TOngkat Boron mix-VIRON will be ready for pre sale tomorrow most likely. Labels shipped yesterday. So Ill have em tomorrow.
Ill get a write up done later tonight.
I think youll be surprised what these two ingredients can do.
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Any idea where this will be on presale? Nutra? TGB?
 
saggy321 said:
So this would be a good candidate for a 30 day 21 hour daily fast.
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I dont suggest this for any reason.
Fasts are for Ghandi. Your body will pretty much eat all your muscle tissue for aminos if your fasting so you of course lose weight because your starving but youll lose any mass you have. IN addition, even if you binge for 1 meal youll get a HUGE insulin spike so youll just retain fat and lose muscle.

TERRIBLE plan.

Dont mean to be a jerk. I just dont see any circumstance where this is a good idea.
 
amarula said:
Myo has other interesting/importante ingredientes also beyond those, it's a very complete formula, so I agree it's not comparable altough in the same natural anabolics cathegory.
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THere are other ingredients.
Im not trying to bash evomuse I just want to make it clear.
Everyone is comparing our products. Its not a comparison. You wont see the same results taking theirs and ours.

Im following the logs. Some endurance. Some pump.
NO PRS
NO weight gain. IN the logs Im reading.
 
jjblacksheep said:
Brundel can chime in but I'm curious to see more post Folli run loss of strength and weight/muscle as I've seen a couple of mentions of this. With all the recent logs I'd like to see what happens 4-6 weeks after although I know there are always various circumstances surrounding each user after a run.
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It does appear strength and the endurance factor drops post cycle. This happens with most things though including anabolic steroids. For most weight seems to be static or close but we will have to watch it and see.
 
Im working on pricing for the tongkat right now.

It looks like the LJ100 is approx 18-25$ for 50-80mg tabs 30-60 ct.

Price on the higher dose- 250-300mg real tongkat is in the 80$ range.

Our extract is better.
We have 250mg + boron.

Keeping in mind I have to make a few bucks and we need room for retailers to make a few bucks.
 
brundel said:
Im working on pricing for the tongkat right now.

It looks like the LJ100 is approx 18-25$ for 50-80mg tabs 30-60 ct.

Price on the higher dose- 250-300mg real tongkat is in the 80$ range.

Our extract is better.
We have 250mg + boron.

Keeping in mind I have to make a few bucks and we need room for retailers to make a few bucks.
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Who gives a $h!t how much it costs, just release it already!!!
 
brundel said:
It does appear strength and the endurance factor drops post cycle. This happens with most things though including anabolic steroids. For most weight seems to be static or close but we will have to watch it and see.
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11 days off and weight is staying at 211. I have upped calories by approximately 500 a day because rugby is about to start. Endurance has dropped quite a bit, but strength has retained. All my top end lift weight has stayed as it was before running FD (which makes sense), but volume work in the 60-80% range has dropped by about a 1/3 for squats, DL, BB bench, incline, clean, and press.

No question whatsoever that FD has a positive impact on volume and endurance training for me.
 
kisaj said:
11 days off and weight is staying at 211. I have upped calories by approximately 500 a day because rugby is about to start. Endurance has dropped quite a bit, but strength has retained. All my top end lift weight has stayed as it was before running FD (which makes sense), but volume work in the 60-80% range has dropped by about a 1/3 for squats, DL, BB bench, incline, clean, and press.

No question whatsoever that FD has a positive impact on volume and endurance training for me.
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The weight staying static is good. I would expect an increase in cals would be needed of course.
If you weigh 200lbs and something causes a 10lb increase in weight youll need to increase cals to maintenance for a 210lb guy or for 100% certain itll drop.
Pretty good to hear some things are sticking.
 
clobrown said:
85$ seems reasonable
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Um, no it doesn't. Regardless of how good something is, people are not going to start going near $100 for an OTC supplement. That is why products like SD200, which is one of the higher priced ones have seen so much competition because people don't want to pay $60-80 for tongkat.
 
kisaj said:
Um, no it doesn't. Regardless of how good something is, people are not going to start going near $100 for an OTC supplement. That is why products like SD200, which is one of the higher priced ones have seen so much competition because people don't want to pay $60-80 for tongkat.
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I agree. I think he was kidding. Hopefully.
It will be less than half that price.
 
kisaj said:
All my top end lift weight has stayed as it was before running FD (which makes sense)
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Wouldn't that mean you lost the top-end strength gains? (just trying to clarify)

I'm on my 6th week of FD and hoping I don't lose my gains :D
 
38 retail?

Would you be willing to GLADLY pay 38$
This is me not making alot and just enough for retailers to want to sell it.

This is still well under the price of other quality brands. Since alot sell 50-80mg tabs. 30-60ct for 20ish dollars.
 
brundel said:
38 retail?

Would you be willing to GLADLY pay 38$
This is me not making alot and just enough for retailers to want to sell it.

This is still well under the price of other quality brands. Since alot sell 50-80mg tabs. 30-60ct for 20ish dollars.
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Is that for 30 days worth? It would naturally last longer as most people would cycle a 4/3 or 5/2, but just curious.
 
brundel said:
I dont suggest this for any reason.
Fasts are for Ghandi. Your body will pretty much eat all your muscle tissue for aminos if your fasting so you of course lose weight because your starving but youll lose any mass you have. IN addition, even if you binge for 1 meal youll get a HUGE insulin spike so youll just retain fat and lose muscle.

TERRIBLE plan.

Dont mean to be a jerk. I just dont see any circumstance where this is a good idea.
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Thanks Brundel. The fast is for religious reasons - so its ghandesk I suppose. I've done it before and have managed to just about retain muscle by lowering training volume, just a couple of sets per exercise, one heavy set and eating copious amounts of protein and cals between 10pm and 1am. I can easily hit 2200 kcals. I was just looking for something to maintain mass and help prioritize fat burning.
 
saggy321 said:
Thanks Brundel. The fast is for religious reasons - so its ghandesk I suppose. I've done it before and have managed to just about retain muscle by lowering training volume, just a couple of sets per exercise, one heavy set and eating copious amounts of protein and cals between 10pm and 1am. I can easily hit 2200 kcals. I was just looking for something to maintain mass and help prioritize fat burning.
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Then yes it will help.
I just dont want to suggest it for physique purposes.

If its a religious thing then by all means go for it. Just do your best to retain mass. Follidrone will help.
 
brundel said:
38 retail?

Would you be willing to GLADLY pay 38$
This is me not making alot and just enough for retailers to want to sell it.

This is still well under the price of other quality brands. Since alot sell 50-80mg tabs. 30-60ct for 20ish dollars.
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Fuarck yeah I would. Not to ruin it but I considered $40 being a fair deal
 
mechka_grizli said:
Fuarck yeah I would. Not to ruin it but I considered $40 being a fair deal
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38-41 is the considered price point.
So 100% in there somewhere.
I have to do some last sec calculations but I think on the lower end of that.
 
brundel said:
38-41 is the considered price point.
So 100% in there somewhere.
I have to do some last sec calculations but I think on the lower end of that.
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The way I see it, ppl pay 40-50 for a product that doesnt do sh!t. So sub 40 bucks for a product with research behind it with a superior extract is definitely worth it
 
brundel said:
Ill know more shortly. I expect all retailers to have some within2 weeks or less. It depends on the manufacturer. We are working on it.
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you're doing a good job man. Everyone needs to just calm down a little. I'm sure you will let everyone know when the products are available, and please no more requests for discounts and etc people. The man has a hot product, he deserves to make his $
 
Even with all the nagging questions brundel has done an excellent job at getting back to everyone and addressing concerns. I give him a lot of credit for not only putting out quality products but also for being one of the most engaging reps on this forum.
 
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