havoc vs epistane?

jeffh3c

jeffh3c

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Ok. I had some old run havoc around. Looking at the more current epistane I noticed that the havoc was missing 5andro. Seems alike other than that but one thing can make a huge difference.

Anyone with experience on both able to chime in with personal results or lack thereof?

Thx
 
Havoc sucks compared to epistane.

With havoc, you need 30,000mcg-50,000mcg's for a good
6-8 week cycle.

Epistane only needs 30-50mg for a good 6-8 week cycle
 
This is my go-to Epistane recommendation:

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Lots of reviews here on AM, any extra questions PM me I'd be happy to help

Right now use the code APRIL10 to save an extra 10% off that already great price
 
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Big bang for your buck.
120 caps x 15mg

Sure there are some discount codes for nutriverse.
 
Driven2lift said:
This is my go-to Epistane recommendation:

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Lots of reviews here on AM, any extra questions PM me I'd be happy to help

Right now use the code APRIL10 to save an extra 10% off that already great price
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edje007 said:
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Big bang for your buck.
120 caps x 15mg

Sure there are some discount codes for nutriverse.
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I think both of you failed to comprehend op's post
 
jeffh3c said:
Ok. I had some old run havoc around. Looking at the more current epistane I noticed that the havoc was missing 5andro. Seems alike other than that but one thing can make a huge difference.

Anyone with experience on both able to chime in with personal results or lack thereof?

Thx
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Epistane is epistane man.. unless its bunk.
Different nomenclature, same compound..

jbryand101b said:
Havoc sucks compared to epistane.

With havoc, you need 30,000mcg-50,000mcg's for a good
6-8 week cycle.

Epistane only needs 30-50mg for a good 6-8 week cycle
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Reps.
Your posts are funnier in the anabolic section :)
 
They are the exact same thing minus whatever impurities might be in one or the other.
 
edje007 said:
Yep:(

But still a sweet price for Olympus labs Ep15tane:)
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Yeah, about the same exact price per mg as the LGI Epi-10 the brand that's been around for 7 years and trusted. ??

OP, they are the same. Careful with Havoc on Amazon there was a company from Florida making fakes.
Make sure it's an authorized site, LGI distributes it.
 
LOpro said:
Yeah, about the same exact price per mg as the LGI Epi-10 the brand that's been around for 7 years and trusted. ??

OP, they are the same. Careful with Havoc on Amazon there was a company from Florida making fakes.
Make sure it's an authorized site, LGI distributes it.
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Is that so?

EP15TANE is 120 caps x 15mg
Without discounts 48.95 on nutriverse

Epi lgi is 90 caps x 10mg for 35,95 on strongsupplements.com

Who is cheaper?

Not bashing lgi, they are great....but our prices are amazing.
 
Many sites have it for $24.95 normal price before discounts. That's so.
Strong is high priced good find.

edje007 said:
Is that so?

EP15TANE is 120 caps x 15mg
Without discounts 48.95 on nutriverse

Epi lgi is 90 caps x 10mg for 35,95 on strongsupplements.com

Who is cheaper?

Not bashing lgi, they are great....but our prices are amazing.
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LOpro said:
Many sites have it for $24.95 normal price before discounts. That's so.
Strong is high priced good find.
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Possible [Shredded labs] Rep trying their best to put down another companies product in terms of value lmao....
 
No idea? Nice 8th and 9th post LOpro. Whatever....

Again, lgi good stuff....but face it, Olympus labs has a great price and great products .

End of story.
 
edje007 said:
No idea? Nice 8th and 9th post LOpro. Whatever....

Again, lgi good stuff....but face it, Olympus labs has a great price and great products .

End of story.
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Reps that argue like this completely put me off from ever purchasing that companies products.
 
For his 8th and 9th post though, he's right. No one buys lgi from strongsupplements, they're the cheapest at their origin exclusive, lockout. Which is 24.95.

They're also both about $.027/mg
 
OnionKnight said:
For his 8th and 9th post though, he's right. No one buys lgi from strongsupplements, they're the cheapest at their origin exclusive, lockout. Which is 24.95.

They're also both about $.027/mg
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Ok cool....I used to buy from strongsupplements....

By the way, again....no hate to lgi...never said anything bad about them.

Used it multiple times.

Just said olympus is well priced
 
kaikara said:
Reps that argue like this completely put me off from ever purchasing that companies products.
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Not argueing my friend....just didn't think his statement was correct.

I believe in the products we have. Not bashing any other company.
 
Ok. Plz enough arguing. I'm not chemist but if one has 5andro and the other doesn't how are they the same?
 
kaikara said:
Reps that argue like this completely put me off from ever purchasing that companies products.
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They both believe in their products? I don't see a problem with that. When it comes down to it, Olympus is slowly proving themselves to be a great company (they can't deny the fact they are a newer company). And lgi has been around for a long time and def proved their worth. When you look at the two products you can't go wrong either way. I trust the guys at Olympus when they say they make a solid product, and I can attest to their preworkout being bomb as hell.
 
Not sure if joking or not...Epistane doesn't convert to anything in the body worth mentioning... it's not a prohormone... to estrogen, testosterone, DHT or any specific target hormone like M1A -> M1T or Trendione -> Trenbolone...But there's this really great blog out there called Total Flex Blog and here's a cool article about epistane and epistane's metabolites: Invalid Link Removed
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Not sure if joking or not...Epistane doesn't convert to anything in the body worth mentioning... it's not a prohormone... to estrogen, testosterone, DHT or any specific target hormone like M1A -> M1T or Trendione -> Trenbolone...But there's this really great blog out there called Total Flex Blog and here's a cool article about epistane and epistane's metabolites: Invalid Link Removed
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He's obviously joking haha...I hope
 
It seems the havoc I had and the one product link has the same ingredients plus 5andro... Some metabolite of andr0stan.
 
I'm in the same situation as you OP Idk if I should get hdrol or halodrol. Which wod giv mor gainz
 
jbryand101b said:
Havoc sucks compared to epistane.

With havoc, you need 30,000mcg-50,000mcg's for a good
6-8 week cycle.

Epistane only needs 30-50mg for a good 6-8 week cycle
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My math isn't the greatest, but last time I checked those are the exact same amounts. ??????

Never mind, I see you were being a little smart butt! Lol
 
Havoc really isn't even havoc anymore. Hasn't been for some time.
 
i took havoc by rpn and i gained 10lbs in 6 weeks. great run for me I'm in pct now and haven't lost anything since i started my cycle. very pleased with the results.
 
jeffh3c said:
We drink water h2o
One molecule different is peroxide h2o2. So one small bond does matter.
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There are quite a few ways to write the nomenclature while being one compound.
Everyone seems to knows this but you.

One bond matters. What also matters is your understanding of what was just said, and also that supp companies don't care if there is an error on the label.

This is seen most with dimethazine.
Most will have 17b listed twice, which is impossible. Ask to change it, no one cares.
 
jbryand101b said:
There are quite a few ways to write the nomenclature while being one compound.
Everyone seems to knows this but you.

One bond matters. What also matters is your understanding of what was just said, and also that supp companies don't care if there is an error on the label.

This is seen most with dimethazine.
Most will have 17b listed twice, which is impossible. Ask to change it, no one cares.
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Ok. I appreciate the reply beyond "there the same" I'm a detain oriented person so when something isn't labeled the same I ask questions.
 
jeffh3c said:
Ok. I appreciate the reply beyond "there the same" I'm a detain oriented person so when something isn't labeled the same I ask questions.
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No prob with asking questions! Better safe than sorry. But yeah, they're the same lol
 
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