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SquatsAndOats said:
how long you gonna run it for? Winnys really toxic to the liver no? I don't know how it compares to superdrol though in terms of toxicity
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Not sure, I'm open to opinions becUse I have never tried it. I was thinking 3 weeks at 50mg and 2 weeks at 100mg. It can be liver toxic, however, my body handles orals very well. I also run over support. Plenty of water, good diet, and some TUDCA keeps the liver in good shape
 
technique88 said:
Not sure, I'm open to opinions becUse I have never tried it. I was thinking 3 weeks at 50mg and 2 weeks at 100mg. It can be liver toxic, however, my body handles orals very well. I also run over support. Plenty of water, good diet, and some TUDCA keeps the liver in good shape
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NAC works too. Maybe even better.
 
hurdlemaker said:
fueled have u decided on the Hdrol? U going to log this?
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Yes I'm gonna log it. I need a few more lbs before I recomp.

At least 6 weeks, possibly 8. Stsrt around 50mg and taper up to 100. Should be fun just like last time. My hope is to pop 180-182lbs and be alttle leaner. That'll put me at 25lbs heavier than I was about 10 months ago.

It'll be a summary log. Just the details, stuff used, type of workout etc but not a daily log. I prefer giving a synopsis about the entire experience at the end with a few pics/stats to go with it.

Afterwards I'm gonna try a restart from TRT and bridge into IM L-Carnitine and natty supps.
 
Can anyone who has used Epi and Turinabol, give me a fair comparison?

I have never used Tbol but I am a great responder to Epi and haven't found anything (oral) that builds LEAN mass quite like it with all other variables in place (training,diet etc)

Looking to maybe try some Turinabol so kinda interested... Or just stick to Epi?
 
I like tbol but in my experience it's really expensive to run at doses necessary to get significant mass. IMO it's better as a performance enhancing drug than as a bb drug. I would use dmz instead if your main goal is adding mass. 45 of dmz will give dbol type gains without bloat or significant sides.
 
All of this Tbol talk is starting to create an itch lol

I was going to finish my cycle with a var/winny combo but I can only afford to run both at 50mg each.

Tbol sounds really nice though...
 
My boy is running 100mg or tbols and he's getting lean as ****. I never used tbols. What's the normal dosage range?
 
I ran it at 100 mg, that's pretty expensive though. In my experience legit tbol is twice as expensive as dbol, although it's still much less than legit var.
 
I've never ran over 50mg of Tbol, 40mg is honestly enough for solid gains. I run low doses and focus more on my basics tho. A 7 week cycle at that dose only runs about 200 tho, and I actually get my var cheaper than Tbol haha
 
I guess my point is unless you're an athlete and need fast clearance or you want to gain strength and not gain weight low dose SD or medium dose DMZ are both more effective and much cheaper.
 
Mystere3 said:
I guess my point is unless you're an athlete and need fast clearance or you want to gain strength and not gain weight low dose SD or medium dose DMZ are both more effective and much cheaper.
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idk, I don't see those comparisons as making a lot of sense. If ur an athlete take anavar, hands down. U recover better than anything else, hence maintain your gains (fat loss, muscle and strength gained) and the weight gain is very clean combined with significant fat loss as well as significant strength gain. The strength gain on var is similar to the strength gain on SD IMO. If I were coming from a bodybuilding perspective (which I am) I'd pick Tbol hands down for my oral. It produces the most quality muscle (without bloat) with the least overall risk to your body. Mystere, if u have access to anything might I suggest trying 40-50mg of Tbol ed with 50mg test prop and 50mg tren ace eod. I also added in some adex when I ran this, but I typically always do. If ur a fan of short effective cycles you will love that. The body comp changes were amazing.
 
That hasn't been my experience. I'd much rather take dbol than tbol; for me it's much more effective. The times I've used 100 mg dbol with a caloric surplus it's is def lean but the mass gained was underwhelming, similar to 10 of SD which doesn't justify the price IMO. Strength gain was nice but I'm not a powerlifter and it's transient anyways.

I've never taken anavar as a lean bulker or recomp agent, just as a finisher and as a PED. I probably should try it sometime but it's just hard to justify the price. Running it at 100 mg for 6 weeks is like a g.

Results for me for recomp on moderate dose DMZ or low dose SD are nothing short of amazing so I'm hard pressed to change it up.



My pin cycle is always exactly the same. 50 dbol 1-4 500 test p 1-12 350 tren a 1-10 800 eq 1-12 100 anavar 8-12 hcg 250 IU eod which works great and I don't intend to change it.
 
U know, everyone is affected differently by gear, there are the norms which are the effects the majority of people have, but everyone is different. Is that the fast acting eq ur using or the regular? My guy just got a fast acting eq u pin eod I'm very curious about
 
I don't mind the undecaconate in a 12 weeker. I think if you were gonna go shorter like 8 weeks it might be better to go with ace. Some ppl front load eq, like 1200/wk for the first two weeks then 600, I haven't tried it and am not sure how effective that'd be.
 
Mystere3 said:
I don't mind the undecaconate in a 12 weeker. I think if you were gonna go shorter like 8 weeks it might be better to go with ace. Some ppl front load eq, like 1200/wk for the first two weeks then 600, I haven't tried it and am not sure how effective that'd be.
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yeah I agree, idk if the front loading helps speed the process
 
What do you guys recommend for a guy in Canada, 27 6'0 195 13% BF, Diet and macros are in check, I have been researching for the last few days and will continue to do so I am just looking to gain some lean mass. Something very mild, I also have no idea how to get it here in Canada. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
 
Habs1123 said:
What do you guys recommend for a guy in Canada, 27 6'0 195 13% BF, Diet and macros are in check, I have been researching for the last few days and will continue to do so I am just looking to gain some lean mass. Something very mild, I also have no idea how to get it here in Canada. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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I know we have already talked once before but throwing in my vote again for epistane as a beginner compound

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No issues getting into Canada, legal and Orbit will ship out quick!
 
Habs1123 said:
What do you guys recommend for a guy in Canada, 27 6'0 195 13% BF, Diet and macros are in check, I have been researching for the last few days and will continue to do so I am just looking to gain some lean mass. Something very mild, I also have no idea how to get it here in Canada. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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I agree with driven2lift. Go with epi. Hdrol is good to. But it's not my favorite compound. So another vote for epi at 30/40/40/40/40/40-50.
 
You can check the link in my signature for a legit and affordable Epi clone too. But can't go wrong with the one Driven2lift recommended either.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
You can check the link in my signature for a legit and affordable Epi clone too. But can't go wrong with the one Driven2lift recommended either.
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I appreciate the mutual respect your company has been demonstrating in these threads, setting a good example for other reps brother.
Hopefully Orbit can pick up Olympus and we could work together
 
Driven2lift said:
I appreciate the mutual respect your company has been demonstrating in these threads, setting a good example for other reps brother.
Hopefully Orbit can pick up Olympus and we could work together
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I appreciate your words :)

In my opinion it's always good to let members do their own educated decisions... Compare prices, read feedback etc. I can vouch for several brands - I have used all of those in the past with success:

- Olympus Labs
- Brawn (I'm from Europe and they're very popular in UK)
- Ironflex
- LGI
- Celtic Labs
- RPN Havoc

There are several good brands on the market. Pretty much every sponsor on this board is good to go in my opinion.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
I appreciate your words :)

In my opinion it's always good to let members do their own educated decisions... Compare prices, read feedback etc. I can vouch for several brands - I have used all of those in the past with success:

- Olympus Labs
- Brawn (I'm from Europe and they're very popular in UK)
- Ironflex
- LGI
- Celtic Labs
- RPN Havoc

There are several good brands on the market. Pretty much every sponsor on this board is good to go in my opinion.
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If Olympus hasn't already been requested to add to our suppliers I am suggesting it now.
Have some great additions Orbit could use, the Furuza is a great price and dosing.

Sorry to tread off topic
 
I don't use prohormes at all but I did a hdrol cycle for my first time ever using anabolics. I found my sweet spot to be 100mg ED. If I were to introduce hdrol at the end of my cycle do you tapering up is pointless? Or just begin at 100mg?
 
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