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First PH cycle help

slerm

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Hey guys, I'm looking at running my first PH cycle. Going the PH route since I do not have access to Test. Anyway, I'm 29 y/o, been lifting for 6 years. Current stats: 6'1", 210, 9-10% bf. My goal with this cycle is to aid in getting absolutely shredded (6ish%), without losing/possibly gaining mass. Every time I lean out past the point I'm at I lose too much mass. I'm looking at running the following cycle and would like input since I know there are very knowledgeable experienced individuals here, and I'm sure this is far from perfect. Money is no issue BTW:

Epistane 30/45/45/45/45/60
Furaza 300/300/300/300/300/300
On cycle I'll take Liv52 and UDCA(overkill?)

PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Arimidex just in case (should I run at low dose regardless?)
Looking for input on test boosters (DAA, HCGen)


Please tear this apart if anything looks stupid. I'm open to criticism/input. Thanks in advance
 
Looks good. I always recommend a first cycle to be a bulk though because of virgin receptors. You would kindof be wasting a first cycle by cutting with it. But throw out the arimidex and save it for another run and instead use arimistane like this in pct
0/0/75/50/25/25 or something close to that.
Arimidex in pct for epi is IMO overdoing it. Use a serm and arimistane and a natty test booster and your gtg.
 
Also epi is very dry so if you where to use arimidex during the cycle your joints would ache like hell. More than likely
 
Use tudca rather than udca on cycle.

I think recomp is a good use for epi. I'd keep calories right around TDEE for this though, no lower.
 
Thanks for the input. I'll reconsider the cut and opt for a recomp/very lean bulk.

Out of curiosity, why do you recommend TUDCA?
 
slerm said:
Hey guys, I'm looking at running my first PH cycle. Going the PH route since I do not have access to Test. Anyway, I'm 29 y/o, been lifting for 6 years. Current stats: 6'1", 210, 9-10% bf. My goal with this cycle is to aid in getting absolutely shredded (6ish%), without losing/possibly gaining mass. Every time I lean out past the point I'm at I lose too much mass. I'm looking at running the following cycle and would like input since I know there are very knowledgeable experienced individuals here, and I'm sure this is far from perfect. Money is no issue BTW:

Epistane 30/45/45/45/45/60
Furaza 300/300/300/300/300/300
On cycle I'll take Liv52 and UDCA(overkill?)

PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Arimidex just in case (should I run at low dose regardless?)
Looking for input on test boosters (DAA, HCGen)


Please tear this apart if anything looks stupid. I'm open to criticism/input. Thanks in advance
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I always recommend a solo PH cycle for a first run- Epi by itself should be very good. I would highly recommend adding CEL Cycle Assist on cycle as it covers more more than liver protection.
For PCT Nolva at 20/202/20/10 with DAA, PCT Assist or even the new SNS Growth Factor would be great
 
I agree with the single compound for first cycle. nolva at 20/20/10/10 is enough for this cycle. Higher doses of anything lead to more sides. The lower the dose that works the better.
I would recommend this for your cycle.
Epi
30/40/40/40/40/50 or something close, no more than 8 weeks. But id do 6

Cycle support (milk thistle doesn't do sh!t, go for something with tudca, nac, things that work, ect.)

Pct
Nolva
20/20/10/10
Arimistane
0/0/75/50/50/25 or close to this
A natty test booster.

This would be a beast cycle, if you want to add a compound go for stano. It boosts libido, helps lethargy, and adds hardness. Doses below 800mg don't really do much though. So for a 6-8 week cycle I'd get 3 bottls of lgi stano-200 or ironflex stano.

Hope this helps, good luck :)
 
OK, so how does this look?

Epi 30/45/45/45/45/45
CEL cycle assist
TUDCA (500mg/day)

PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10
FormaStanzol
PCT Assist

I guess my only other question is when everything should be dosed. Should any of these be taken away from one another? Morning/night? With/without food? Sorry for all the questions. Don't want to screw anything up. Thanks for the input so far!
 
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