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Not sure if there would be any science behind it, but just like holding under the tongue and swishing around mouth for absorption - have it in my head that if no fluids are added right away it wont get washed away or watered down. I am pretty sure MrKleen73 has the same mindset on this.
 
Not sure if there would be any science behind it, but just like holding under the tongue and swishing around mouth for absorption - have it in my head that if no fluids are added right away it wont get washed away or watered down. I am pretty sure MrKleen73 has the same mindset on this.

Um, well.

No quote edit needed.
 
lol ... Mine tastes more like chewing up a mouth full of tylenol. I try to keep it under my tongue for a minute as well. Not sure if that really does anything though.

Don't waste your time - it's not designed for sublingual absorption, it's designed for oral delivery. Shoot it & chase it as you see fit. I use water, because I'm a man & juice is simple carbs I don't need first thing upon rising lol

Also, not drinking isn't doing yourself any favors - some of the suspensions these RC companies use def aren't good to be leaving on your throat for 15 min or so over & over. If it tastes like diesel....

So shoot & chase. There's nothing proving holding & swishing it helps any, &, much more importantly, guys get results just find without doing that. You're not going to feel 'more recovered' palpably by holding your clomid for 5 min every day vs just eating it. Guys still recover fine doing it quick.
 
Great job on those lifts! YOu looked like you have 20 more lbs on that bench easy. Sucks on that last pull it must have been a really small hitch to get it up.

Yeah I didn't even realize it was a hitch...I was just trying to pull it thru! & I think you're right; I really felt like I had 300 in me after that. Thanks big guy!
 
Day 47

Yesterday

Standing Miltary 95x8, 115x12, 135x8, 145x6, 7, 115x8
Incline Db Press 60s x18, 65s x14, 70s x12, 75s x9
Hanging Leg Raise BWx15, 14, 12
- alternating with Dips BWx15, 13, 12

Tonight probably Back & bis perhaps

Squat/bench tmrw? Last workout before a vacation wknd, & the gf wants me to teach her the powerlifts after watching all the ladies at the meet last wknd :) So hopefully that will go well & not blow up in my face somehow....she's always been leery of freeweights.
 
Don't waste your time - it's not designed for sublingual absorption, it's designed for oral delivery. Shoot it & chase it as you see fit. I use water, because I'm a man & juice is simple carbs I don't need first thing upon rising lol

Also, not drinking isn't doing yourself any favors - some of the suspensions these RC companies use def aren't good to be leaving on your throat for 15 min or so over & over. If it tastes like diesel....

So shoot & chase. There's nothing proving holding & swishing it helps any, &, much more importantly, guys get results just find without doing that. You're not going to feel 'more recovered' palpably by holding your clomid for 5 min every day vs just eating it. Guys still recover fine doing it quick.

Thanks for setting me straight. My taste buds thank you...
 
I had to research a "hitch". This is deadlifting and leaning back to lock it out, right? If so there is no way you hitched Hyde !
 
Don't waste your time - it's not designed for sublingual absorption, it's designed for oral delivery. Shoot it & chase it as you see fit. I use water, because I'm a man & juice is simple carbs I don't need first thing upon rising lol Also, not drinking isn't doing yourself any favors - some of the suspensions these RC companies use def aren't good to be leaving on your throat for 15 min or so over & over. If it tastes like diesel.... So shoot & chase. There's nothing proving holding & swishing it helps any, &, much more importantly, guys get results just find without doing that. You're not going to feel 'more recovered' palpably by holding your clomid for 5 min every day vs just eating it. Guys still recover fine doing it quick.
Thanks, I was wondering about this as well
 
Thanks for setting me straight. My taste buds thank you...

Np; I originally was doing the same thing couple yrs back; it's easy enough to see the logic in it, it's just when you realize nobody experienced does it because they now realize they don't have to lol. The pharm companies didn't create nolva to be taken sublingually, they made it for oral consumption. RC stuff is just homemade batches of the compound sprinkled into a solution instead of capped or pressed into a tab like big pharma.
 
I had to research a "hitch". This is deadlifting and leaning back to lock it out, right? If so there is no way you hitched Hyde !

It's kind of a lean back & yank into a hipthrust motion. If you watch strongmen deadlift they will often do this on final reps (it's totally legal in strongman; they just want you to lockout). But the way they do it is very deliberate. Mine was just more of a struggle lol
 
So is this considered a hitch

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Day 52

I'm alive. Just got back from visiting some of the gf's family in Denver/Boulder area.

Thurs night squat 315x8, 365x5 & 385x1, did a couple sets snatch-grip rackpulls, 1 set of high-bar oly squat @ 135x40 reps all the way down with hams resting on calves every rep b4 racking bar, then 2 sets of backraises @ 25 reps each. That 135x40 had me pretty sore.

Left for CO fri afternoon, just got back late mon night. Diet has been unrestricted - looking fwd to my more scheduled diet. Can't wait to get back in the gym. Looking into Brandon Lily's Cube method. Perhaps a meet in early June, I'd be competing in off-time if I do it but would do 198 class for sure.

Added 2 caps of Focus/day in like the 3rd day after stopping Epi; been running 2 caps Focus & 9 Max Bulk since then & been feeling absolutely side-free on every level. It certainly is nice to be off the methyls but still retain a lot of the benefits of cycling. I need to lean up some.
 
I'm alive. Just got back from visiting some of the gf's family in Denver/Boulder area. Thurs night squat 315x8, 365x5 & 385x1, did a couple sets snatch-grip rackpulls, 1 set of high-bar oly squat @ 135x40 reps all the way down with hams resting on calves every rep b4 racking bar, then 2 sets of backraises @ 25 reps each. That 135x40 had me pretty sore. Left for CO fri afternoon, just got back late mon night. Diet has been unrestricted - looking fwd to my more scheduled diet. Can't wait to get back in the gym. Looking into Brandon Lily's Cube method. Perhaps a meet in early June, I'd be competing in off-time if I do it but would do 198 class for sure. Added 2 caps of Focus/day in like the 3rd day after stopping Epi; been running 2 caps Focus & 9 Max Bulk since then & been feeling absolutely side-free on every level. It certainly is nice to be off the methyls but still retain a lot of the benefits of cycling. I need to lean up some.

Indeed I love non methyls. With the correct diet they can be very potent. I'm about to stack furza and 11-oxo myself. Good to hear you're alive lol
 
Day 54

Morn Weight 207.2lbs (-3.0lbs from start)

Alright, back to the log, properly.

Officially entering my mild cut as of yesterday. Diet was shake & nuts, 3 meals of green beans & tilapia, shake with olive oil & flaxseed preWO, & banana w/ greek yogurt & casein postWO (15g BCAAs intra). 12 almonds before bed. Dropped 2.5lbs in a day as of this morning lol

Tues Night's training

Military Press 95x12, 115x12, 135x8, 8, 145x8
Klokov Press 45x12, 65x12, 75x10, 8
Ez Bar Curls 40x12, 70x12, 12, 12
Hammer Curls 30x12, 11, 9
Calf Raises on Legpress 3pps x15x5 sets
Vogelpohl Rows can't remember x12, 10, 8, 8, 15 (lighter weight)

The Vogelpohl Rows are done with a rope attachment at a cable tower & are basically a mix of tricep pressdown & closegrip row. Stick your butt out, bend forward, & pull towards your belly button. Tris will fail before lats unless lats are pre-exhausted, fyi.

Last night (on virtually no carbs)

Incline Bbell Press 95x12, 115x12, 135x12, 165x10x3, 7, 145x10x2, 135x10x4
Catback Rows 70x10x10
Cable Tri Overhead Ext 40x16, 50x12, 60x7 ds 40x8

The Catback Rows are basically wide-grip rows on a chest-supported leaning row machine but as you draw your arms towards you the erectors are simultaneously contracted as you lean back (squeeze entire back at top of lift). Almost like adding some good morning into your rows basically.

Today is off-day. Carbs are low again but a bit higher than yesterday, spread thru the day's meals evenly.
 
Morn Weight 207.2lbs (-3.0lbs from start) Alright, back to the log, properly. Officially entering my mild cut as of yesterday. Diet was shake & nuts, 3 meals of green beans & tilapia, shake with olive oil & flaxseed preWO, & banana w/ greek yogurt & casein postWO (15g BCAAs intra). 12 almonds before bed. Dropped 2.5lbs in a day as of this morning lol Tues Night's training Military Press 95x12, 115x12, 135x8, 8, 145x8 Klokov Press 45x12, 65x12, 75x10, 8 Ez Bar Curls 40x12, 70x12, 12, 12 Hammer Curls 30x12, 11, 9 Calf Raises on Legpress 3pps x15x5 sets Vogelpohl Rows can't remember x12, 10, 8, 8, 15 (lighter weight) The Vogelpohl Rows are done with a rope attachment at a cable tower & are basically a mix of tricep pressdown & closegrip row. Stick your butt out, bend forward, & pull towards your belly button. Tris will fail before lats unless lats are pre-exhausted, fyi. Last night (on virtually no carbs) Incline Bbell Press 95x12, 115x12, 135x12, 165x10x3, 7, 145x10x2, 135x10x4 Catback Rows 70x10x10 Cable Tri Overhead Ext 40x16, 50x12, 60x7 ds 40x8 The Catback Rows are basically wide-grip rows on a chest-supported leaning row machine but as you draw your arms towards you the erectors are simultaneously contracted as you lean back (squeeze entire back at top of lift). Almost like adding some good morning into your rows basically. Today is off-day. Carbs are low again but a bit higher than yesterday, spread thru the day's meals evenly.

Whats your carb intake as of now?
 
Ordered a real powerlifting singlet last night; should be here tomorrow :)

Entering a meet on June 14th. It will be the last time I can compete in Junior, as I turn 24 in July (then it's on to the brutally competitive Open). I'll be off cycle, but totally out of PCT, so hoping for at least similar strength by then. Also competing @ 198 weightclass this time - I have to if I want to be competitive, & I have some bf I could spare anyway so ditching that hopefully soon so I don't have to diet near the comp. I at least wanna get to 203 over next few weeks so I'll be within striking distance to cut water the day before the meet.

For sure going to use the Cube Method for my contest prep. I thought I was going to begin Monday but I think to get it laid out right I need to start the following Monday on it actually. Til then, workouts will be strictly whatever the hell I want :biglaugh:
 
Whats your carb intake as of now?

I don't track it; I merely add in & out approximately what I think I need for my goals atm (also considering my workload). While I was getting ready for my 1st meet it was as much as possible that wasn't sugar; hunger was the sole governor. In Colorado last wknd carbs were as high as I could get them lol.

Yesterday was dirt low. I'd say under 100g, after subtracting fiber. Today under 150, but lower fats. I move things around based on feel, what foods I want, what I'm lifting. Tomorrow will be probably 150-200 (more than half peri workout, as it's leg day).
 
Peri workout...

What is this, exactly?

I've seen it explained as carbs before, during, and after workout. But, is there a particular timeframe? I mean, all meals are before, during, and/or after workout.
 
Peri workout...

What is this, exactly?

I've seen it explained as carbs before, during, and after workout. But, is there a particular timeframe? I mean, all meals are before, during, and/or after workout.

In close proximity to the workout, when carb utilization is more for energy or glycogen replenishment.
 
Well thought out peri nutrition will take your training and recovery to a new level

It really has. I play with my food choices often (& it's also based on feel), but I ALWAYS put a lot of consideration into what I've got going on.

For example, if I'm not very hungry after work & just want a 2 scoop protein blend shake & a bowl of whole grain cereal pre workout & am gonna lift immediately, I may not have anything intra, or aminos if it's a shorter workout. Or gatorade when I'm trying to maintain or gain, or both gatorade & aminos in a bigger workout, & I'll boom dose the aminos if I'm not having a shake after & am instead immediately eating afterward somewhere like Qdoba w/ a buddy. If I eat a solid meal before my workout I'll always use aminos intra, but like I said if I had a shake I'll just lift asap & take another shake immediately post before a meal about an hour later.

I mainly try to make sure my body always has a hefty dose of Leucine in it during workouts (either shakes or aminos or both) & make sure there's a solid meal very near the workout. Carb placement (or lack thereof) is also something I always watch. If I'm drinking gatorade on a leg day I'll sometimes drink one scoop & bring the powder so I'm forced to finish my full shaker & then make another 1 scoop shaker full so the energy is more sustained release (I can literally feel a difference, as opposed to crashing before all my accessory work is complete).
 
Day 55

Morn Weight 205.4lbs (-4.8lbs from start)

Down another 1.8lbs.

Wanted to do legs but my calves are still screaming (it was the first time in over a year since I've trained them after all). Will do legs tomorrow afternoon, regardless of whether they hurt.

My singlet came today. Fit is kind of weird, but I am 7.4lbs over the max weight rating for it (198). Definitely not such a peepshow regarding my johnson as that bright red wrestling singlet was - black was a very good choice.
 
"Never give a **** about what anyone says about you. If you are doing things the right way, and succeeding, then haters come with the territory. If you don’t have haters you need to get better."
-Brandon Lilly
 
"Never give a **** about what anyone says about you. If you are doing things the right way, and succeeding, then haters come with the territory. If you don’t have haters you need to get better." -Brandon Lilly

Awesome quote!! Its very true also!
 
Me too. Guy is pretty insightful at times. But that's kind of the attitude I've had to come to adopt - I get all kinds of flac for the way I live; not a day goes by at work where my lifestyle isn't discussed. Sometimes it's positive, usually just humorous, but ALWAYS denotes my difference from the average guy there.

You wanna know why? Because I'm NOT average.

I refuse to be.
 
Day 57

Morn Weight 207.8lbs (-2.4lbs from start)

Carrying some water from yesterday. Upped carbs & ate dirtier yesterday in anticipation of legs. Good news is the weekend has been really enjoyable & I had a great workout!

Yesterday

Sumo Deadlift 95x15, 135x7, 225x7, 315x5, 365x5, 405x2x5 sets
Front Squat 135x15, 185x10, 225x7, 8
Circuit of Lying Leg Curls 100x12, 110x10, 120x10, 10
Calf Raises on Legpress 3ppsx15x5 sets
Hammer Curls 20s x15, 25s x15, 30s x12, 35s x10

Gonna do some upper body crap today I think.
 
Glad you had an enjoyable weekend Hyde. Wish I could pull the weight you do.

I dunno what your coworkers always say, but every time I hear "you eat all the time" or "I'm surprised you aren't fat" from semi-obese guys that eat fast food daily; I want to punch them in their throats.
 
Glad you had an enjoyable weekend Hyde. Wish I could pull the weight you do.

I dunno what your coworkers always say, but every time I hear "you eat all the time" or "I'm surprised you aren't fat" from semi-obese guys that eat fast food daily; I want to punch them in their throats.

Thanks!

Yeah pretty much your scenario. People say things like "when you're my age you're just gonna be fat & soft". I'm thinking, Oh, you mean like how you are now?? Whatever you're doing, it's clearly wrong, so I don't think I need your advice, thanks. On a humorous note, as I was leaving thursday my shop manager asked if I was getting out of here & when I said yeah he goes, "Chicken Low-Level light kick on, eh?" lol he's hoot sometimes. Never know what he's gonna say, but it's usually amusing at least.

But I'm the guy who moves all the heaviest ****, so people never complain when stuff needs doing & I'm around - they come and ask for my help :fing26:
 
Tonight

Benchpress 95x5, 135x5, 185x5, 215x2x5 sets, 245x1
Decline Ez Bar Tri Extensions 60x15, 70x12, 10 ds closegrip presses with it x20
Palms Facing Chins BW 5x10
Vogelpohl Rows 42.5x15, 57.5x12, 12
Up & Down Planks 2x15

I've come to learn that I simply can't do yohimbine. It makes me weaker, considerably. And it drains the life out of me. I hate it, & officially am putting it on the will not use ever again list. I don't know if there's anything else on that list btw, but I have one now. Idk how supp companies thought it would be a good replacement for dmaa, but they were sadly mistaken. What was ever so wrong with caffeine? You just find the right dose & you're g2g.
 
When you are older (like me) you are going to be ripped and healthy! It's ingrained into your psychological being to lift and be healthy. Just smile and think of this when they hate on you.
 
I'll gladly take your yohimbe product leftovers :) I don't enjoy breaks from it TBH. My base BP is very low, I feel more normal with it
 
People say things like "when you're my age you're just gonna be fat & soft". I'm thinking, Oh, you mean like how you are now?? :fing26:

They are just jealous/envious because when they WERE your age - they were fat and soft lol

Interesting about Yohimbe
 
Day 59

Morn Weight 210.8lbs (+0.6lbs from start)

Yesterday was off-day. Diet was ABYSMAL - took the lady out for a huge excellent country dinner & we demolished this enormous slice of snickers pie afterward. And diet was crappy all evening, and clean carbs were high yesterday too. Another 2lbs on the scale this morning lol. Appetite has been crazy in the evenings lately all of a sudden. Today was an off-day, but cals were better & all cleaned up.

They are just jealous/envious because when they WERE your age - they were fat and soft lol

Interesting about Yohimbe

I think a majority of people like it at the right dosage for them, but an alarmingly high percentage of people straight up feel terrible on it. I happen to be one of those folks. It's alright in a fatburner for me, but I need to keep it far from my workouts so it doesn't ruin my lift.

The Methldrene 25 has a bit in it, & I tolerate it just fine, but I never lift on fatburners.
 
I love me some Yohimbe
 
I ran something last year that had yohimbe in it. Whenever I benched or did certain heavy exercises I got extreme headaches that would last over an hour.

Not sure if it was yohimbe or something else, but they did stop after I ceased taking that product.

That said, I took something this year with yohimbe and never experienced anything close to that...
 
I ran something last year that had yohimbe in it. Whenever I benched or did certain heavy exercises I got extreme headaches that would last over an hour.

Not sure if it was yohimbe or something else, but they did stop after I ceased taking that product.

That said, I took something this year with yohimbe and never experienced anything close to that...

Maybe had more yohimbe in it. I find it my bp goes up (or gets kinda low) I get wicked headaches. Yohimbe especially mixed with caffeine pushes mine up.
 
Day 61

Morn Weight 206.6lbs (-3.6lbs from start)

My physique definitely looks more normal just being on the Max Bulk (9/day) & Focus (2/day); I don't get the crazy pumps like I did on the methyls, I don't feel like I have the same performance benefits, but I also don't have the sides. I've been feeling dandy lately, traps are still big, & performance in the gym has been quite solid it seems as of late. 4 more days on cycle, & Max Bulk is going to 10/day tomorrow. I think this will make the PCT transition way easier, as my strength likely won't plummit the way it often does when I come off a hard methyl right into pct. Also, balls have been VERY full since dropping the methyls, & obv strength stopped ramping up so fast. It kind of feels inbetween a cycle & off-time...strange. But it's a good place to be. I'm not taking any supps beyond my off-time essentials & I feel great.

Yesterday

Squat 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5, 355x8, 385x2 (PR?)
Snatch-grip Rackpulls from below knee 135x8, 225x8, 315x8, 365x8, 8
Legpress 3pps x15, 5x15, 6x15, 7x16
Lying Leg Curl 100x15, 15, 15

Today is an off-day (very bad storms here, hail, tornado warnings)

Going to try high carb, low fat, slight deficit for a while. I can tell you as of today I'm WAY more satisfied so far, & I feel strong & have energy. I don't feel deprived at all, except I have to use egg beaters instead of whole eggs if I want them. I'll take that sacrifice to eat rice & potatoes & keep my power. :thumbsup:
 
Morn Weight 206.6lbs (-3.6lbs from start) My physique definitely looks more normal just being on the Max Bulk (9/day) & Focus (2/day); I don't get the crazy pumps like I did on the methyls, I don't feel like I have the same performance benefits, but I also don't have the sides. I've been feeling dandy lately, traps are still big, & performance in the gym has been quite solid it seems as of late. 4 more days on cycle, & Max Bulk is going to 10/day tomorrow. I think this will make the PCT transition way easier, as my strength likely won't plummit the way it often does when I come off a hard methyl right into pct. Also, balls have been VERY full since dropping the methyls, & obv strength stopped ramping up so fast. It kind of feels inbetween a cycle & off-time...strange. But it's a good place to be. I'm not taking any supps beyond my off-time essentials & I feel great. Yesterday Squat 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5, 355x8, 385x2 (PR?) Snatch-grip Rackpulls from below knee 135x8, 225x8, 315x8, 365x8, 8 Legpress 3pps x15, 5x15, 6x15, 7x16 Lying Leg Curl 100x15, 15, 15 Today is an off-day (very bad storms here, hail, tornado warnings) Going to try high carb, low fat, slight deficit for a while. I can tell you as of today I'm WAY more satisfied so far, & I feel strong & have energy. I don't feel deprived at all, except I have to use egg beaters instead of whole eggs if I want them. I'll take that sacrifice to eat rice & potatoes & keep my power. :thumbsup:
youll like the dietary strategy I promise. I need to come down to your neck of the woods and work squats and pulls with you. Dayum homie
 
youll like the dietary strategy I promise. I need to come down to your neck of the woods and work squats and pulls with you. Dayum homie

That'd be great; it's fun lifting with someone who's serious about their lifting. I was kind of kicking myself on stopping at 2 reps on 385. I was just being lazy, and just relying on ok instead of pushing that 3rd or 4th even.

I love the diet so far, strong as a bull, except I'm eating way too much fat still & not really in a deficit. The good news is it's obv gonna work fine for me. I have to be smarter about my fat consumption in my meat, as well as dropping eggs for egg whites. A plate of 6 eggs is 42g fat lol - not remotely feasible on this diet.

Even 93/7 beef or turkey is bushing it, as I'll eat a 16oz or 20oz pack, respectively/day over 3 meals, plus an egg meal often, plus a shake or two, plus another 5 oz of some meat. Gonna try to work some tilapia into this mix for that 4th/5th solid meal. The carbs are easy; as much rice/potatoes as fits the macro limit (prob 250-300/day) & stay within 60g fat. Protein is whatever it works out to (2-300g/day).

Most of my diet will be chicken breast, 93/7 turkey & beef, egg whites, tilapia, brown/white rice, red/russet potatoes, some pasta w/ tomato sauces, black, red, & pinto beans, wholegrain cereals, almond milk & lactose-free skim, plain greek yogurt, bananas, pears, grapefruit, or w/e fruits I like. These foods have been EXCELLENT for my strength over the last year or two, I feel good on them, enjoy them & can always eat my meals easily, & are affordable. Broccoli, green beans, spinach, & salad mixes as I please w/ fat-free italian, but I don't even count these.

Olive oil, almonds, natty pb, eggs, bacon, cheese, light dressings & junk foods will all have to stay on the bench for now.
 
Yesterday

Incline Bench 95x8, 115x8, 135x8, 155x8, 185x8
Incline Db Bench 55s x20, 20
Cgbp 155x12, 12, 12
Machine Flys 150x15, 190x12, 170x11 ds 130x6
Tricep Pressdown 50x100 total reps, took probably 6 min
Standing Military 80x12, 90x12, 12

Today is a bodybuilding style day for weak bodyparts....praying my tub of Quake shows up soon like it's supposed to before I go smash the gym! Although with the tornados here lately I couldn't blame it if I doesn't make it.
 
Doing work in here Mr Hyde! PRs on those squats SMHS!
 
Yesterday was off-day (tub of Quake got delayed w/ the storms til Monday) :(

I've decided that I'm not thrilled about the idea of cutting to 198 for this meet; it's counterintuitive to getting stronger, especially since I definitely plan to fill out the 220 class. After I do this one at 198, I'm gonna let my body grow into whatever weightclass it's comfy at. For me I'd imagine that would cap out by 242, but that's just speculation. But after this meet, I'm going up back to 220.

My body absolutely wants to grow. It's begging me. I've been trying different things for a long time now (years), & within the last few wks I feel like I'm really starting to pull it all together, nutrition-wise. Always more to learn, but I'm talking about what works for me on a lot of levels in general. And now that I am, I'm fighting just to hold my weight from going up. I feel better than ever.

Off to the gym for the bodypart accessory day!
 
Sounds like you have a plan man do you intend to try to stay relatively lean while bulking up to that?
 
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