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First cycle

Ephedraboy

Ephedraboy

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Hi everyone , i'm 21 ( i know i'm young ) , i've been training for 4.5 years now , i'm low weigh 150 lbs , i was 120 5 years ago , won 30 lbs of lean muscles , you can think that's not much , but i changed so much , i was the perfect skinny fat , narrow shoulders , fat on abs side/low back , gyno that i still have , but small one.
I'm under 170cm ,looks like it's really hard to get more muscles now , i get like 1-3 lbs/year of lean muscles .
I already take creat/prot/bcaa , good diet ( i don't eat much , like 2000 calories / day , but still i'm not lean at all , i'm like 12-13%bf , and i get fat REALLY fast).
I made blood works 1 month ago , i had 9 ng/ml of T , 52ng of E2 , and 28ng of prolactin , which is high , and coristol 300ng , so i've been using erase pro + anabeta elite since 3 weeks now , helped me i think , i got leaner , and now i'm using alphamine since 2 days.

So , let's talk about the cycle , i'd like to take a prohormone , like EP15STANE , + AR1MACARE PRO for 1-4 weeks , then 4-8 a SERM nolvadex + SUPER PCT.

I'll maybe use STR3NGH too , to test it .
 
Ephedraboy said:
Hi everyone , i'm 21 ( i know i'm young ) , i've been training for 4.5 years now , i'm low weigh 150 lbs , i was 120 5 years ago , won 30 lbs of lean muscles , you can think that's not much , but i changed so much , i was the perfect skinny fat , narrow shoulders , fat on abs side/low back , gyno that i still have , but small one. I'm under 170cm ,looks like it's really hard to get more muscles now , i get like 1-3 lbs/year of lean muscles . I already take creat/prot/bcaa , good diet ( i don't eat much , like 2000 calories / day , but still i'm not lean at all , i'm like 12-13%bf , and i get fat REALLY fast). I made blood works 1 month ago , i had 9 ng/ml of T , 52ng of E2 , and 28ng of prolactin , which is high , and coristol 300ng , so i've been using erase pro + anabeta elite since 3 weeks now , helped me i think , i got leaner , and now i'm using alphamine since 2 days. So , let's talk about the cycle , i'd like to take a prohormone , like EP15STANE , + AR1MACARE PRO for 1-4 weeks , then 4-8 a SERM nolvadex + SUPER PCT. I'll maybe use STR3NGH too , to test it .
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Your 150lbs!!! You cant be serious!!?!
 
i know it can be chocking, my mom is 75 lbs , my sister is 85 , i was 120 before training , i went up to 170 , but with a lot of fat ofc.
But when people see me , they think i'm like 180
 
NattyForLife said:
You dont need to mess with any Prohormones or AAS until you learn how to eat!!
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I knew people would say that , i've got 2 friends who are less muscular then me , they are 190 lbs , they are just freaking more heavy , and taller too , don't really know how , but yea 150 is really light weight , and all my family members are even less then light weight .
 
Ephedraboy said:
I knew people would say that , i've got 2 friends who are less muscular then me , they are 190 lbs , they are just freaking more heavy , and taller too , don't really know how , but yea 150 is really light weight , and all my family members are even less then light weight .
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If you knew people would say that, then there is your answer! Dont mess with AAS until you learn how to eat and gain some more size and strength.
 
Natty this is a troll. If his mom was 75lbs she's be dead or very close. Lol what an idiot op is.
 
There was a thread not long ago of a 130 dude using epi. Obviously you should hit 190-200ish before you use this stuff but its not unheard of. Everyone is different. If your mom is 75 pounds I hope she's a midget lol
 
NattyForLife said:
If you knew people would say that, then there is your answer! Dont mess with AAS until you learn how to eat and gain some more size and strength.
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if that's your own personal choice good for you it's prob the best way to go. but when someone is set on running a cycle and they believe they are ready they are gonna run a cycle most of the time. Not Everyone is gonna wait till they hit natural limits and everyone is not gonna wait till they are "old enough" to run a cycle. This is just reality. It's more about understanding risks involved and deciding of you are willing to take those risks. Just because you wouldn't run a cycle till you hit say 190 pounds because your afraid of injury (very valid reason not to cycle btw) does in no way mean that he isn't willing to take those risks to get where he wants to be. Everyone wants instant gratification regardless of the risks in some cases. PH/AAS are not nearly as bad as many people on this forum make them out to be though. If used correctly. Just something to think about.
 
Like I said you yesterday, I'd run a good natty stack instead of Epi or other PH's/steroids.

If you're going to run a cycle anyway, be sure to plan it well!
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Like I said you yesterday, I'd run a good natty stack instead of Epi or other PH's/steroids.

If you're going to run a cycle anyway, be sure to plan it well!
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Yea , you did explain me really well, i thank you for that , i bought Ep15stane etc.
Just didnt buy the SERM yet ..

For my mom s weigh , she's 36-38kg , which is like 80lbs , not 75 , sry ^^but still.. we're really really light weigh , it's in the family.. so 150 for my body is a lot , i mean i'm quite massive for the type of body i have
 
I'd recommend doimg a natty stack over Epi... Something like STR3NGTH, ARA and a good pre-workout or stimmed fatburner...
 
I'm not advocating OP run a cycle but I think people harp too much on weight.

At 176, I'm massive compared to any other males in my family. Next heaviest was my brother at 136. Genetics can be used as a crutch by some people, but there is some semblance of truth to the matter.

Weight is simply a number sometimes and I've seen guys who are 165 and in phenomenal shape and I've seen guys who are a big 190 and have little to no knowledge or application of nutrition and training.

Not really sure where I'm going with this rant, but I'm done now.
 
ChefJoey said:
I'm not advocating OP run a cycle but I think people harp too much on weight.

At 176, I'm massive compared to any other males in my family. Next heaviest was my brother at 136. Genetics can be used as a crutch by some people, but there is some semblance of truth to the matter.

Weight is simply a number sometimes and I've seen guys who are 165 and in phenomenal shape and I've seen guys who are a big 190 and have little to no knowledge or application of nutrition and training.

Not really sure where I'm going with this rant, but I'm done now.
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You're saying the truth man.. i'm not sayin i'm a monster , and not saying i'm that light weight only cause of genetic , but it s a big part.. i'm really massive compared from the day i started training.. I know a black guy in my gym who has started 2 months ago , he started at 210 lbs , with fat too , but he had huuuuge legs / big back , shoulders. really massive , in 2 months , he 's already a monster.. for real. First day of gym , he was taking 50 lbs / hand for biceps , i do 50 lbs / hand now , with 4 years of training.. i ' ve started at 12-15lbs lol..
 
Hey guys OP is like 5'5". If he's a lean 150 then go for it. Honestly though, there's plenty of first cycle set up threads to look at idk why everyone asks just model one of those.
 
superbeast668 said:
Hey guys OP is like 5'5". If he's a lean 150 then go for it. Honestly though, there's plenty of first cycle set up threads to look at idk why everyone asks just model one of those.
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I know it can be annoying, but I also understand that they would want some personalized advice as they are probably pretty anxious. I never made a first cycle thread but I understand why some do. I have no problem looking at someone's first cycle and giving them some advice. If it makes them feel better. Google works to though ;)
 
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