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Pre-workout alternatives to alphamine

mirra250

mirra250

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Hey guys - unfortunately my 8 week run with alphamine as a fat burner/pre-workout has come to an end.
I really enjoyed the moderate stimmed feeling I got from it for my workouts. Are there any other stimulant based preworkouts I could use whilst in my 4 week rest from it? Or is it wise to just stay away from all stims for 4 weeks...
I'm currently about 5 weeks through an ABE and run and 3-4weeks through ArA and F95 runs as well (3-4 workouts per week).
Thanks!
 
There are many, in my opinion: start with with determining what you actually want from a PWO (just the moderate stimmed feeling?). Than start looking at reviews of those in that category.

If you find it helpful my favourites at the moments are Uncut and Preamp, if you want to look into them.
 
Is just the basis for what you're looking for a moderate stim? Pre-workout have numerous sub-categories
 
Like others have stated, we need to know what you're looking for from your preworkout before we can recommend something suitable.
 
Sorry guys, I realise I didn't make my intentions clear.
I'm looking for a pre-workout that, principally, will provide a stimulant effect (anything else is a bonus I suppose) that either works through different pathways to alphamine's stims or atleast different actives such that I will actually be taking a break from the ingredients in alphamine.
If this is not possible and I just have to deal with a non-stim alternative, then let me know! :)
 
mirra250 said:
Sorry guys, I realise I didn't make my intentions clear. I'm looking for a pre-workout that, principally, will provide a stimulant effect (anything else is a bonus I suppose) that either works through different pathways to alphamine's stims or atleast different actives such that I will actually be taking a break from the ingredients in alphamine. If this is not possible and I just have to deal with a non-stim alternative, then let me know! :)
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Depending on how stimulated of the pre-workout you're looking for Focus XT may be a viable option for you. It's a product that should provide very excellent mental clarity and mild energy through your workout. It is certainly not one of those pre-workouts that has you bolting around gym because you were overstimulated or anything along those lines, but provides nice energy and may aid in improving mind-muscle connection as well.

We do free Focus XT in a stim free version as well. :)
 
mirra250 said:
Sorry guys, I realise I didn't make my intentions clear.
I'm looking for a pre-workout that, principally, will provide a stimulant effect (anything else is a bonus I suppose) that either works through different pathways to alphamine's stims or atleast different actives such that I will actually be taking a break from the ingredients in alphamine.
If this is not possible and I just have to deal with a non-stim alternative, then let me know! :)
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MAN, I know just the fix for you. Focus XT is a great non-stim Pre.
If you want a good stim pre then Gameday would be right up your alley. The Stim effect is top notch, plus the pumps and focus are unbeatable. And there is also some PF3 in it that will help with recovery.
Good luck!
 
aaronuconn said:
Depending on how stimulated of the pre-workout you're looking for Focus XT may be a viable option for you. It's a product that should provide very excellent mental clarity and mild energy through your workout. It is certainly not one of those pre-workouts that has you bolting around gym because you were overstimulated or anything along those lines, but provides nice energy and may aid in improving mind-muscle connection as well. We do free Focus XT in a stim free version as well. :)
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I will definitely look into this! Is the only difference between the caff free version that there is no caffeine? Or has like L-tyrosine been bumped up (or anything else)?
 
drewsicle3210 said:
MAN, I know just the fix for you. Focus XT is a great non-stim Pre. If you want a good stim pre then Gameday would be right up your alley. The Stim effect is top notch, plus the pumps and focus are unbeatable. And there is also some PF3 in it that will help with recovery. Good luck!
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Thanks for your advice man but unfortunately I can't get Gameday in Australia because of the rauwolscine :(
 
mirra250 said:
I will definitely look into this! Is the only difference between the caff free version that there is no caffeine? Or has like L-tyrosine been bumped up (or anything else)?
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Given it's a prop blend, I'm unsure, however I believe the only difference is the lack of caffeine.
 
mirra250 said:
Sorry guys, I realise I didn't make my intentions clear.
I'm looking for a pre-workout that, principally, will provide a stimulant effect (anything else is a bonus I suppose) that either works through different pathways to alphamine's stims or atleast different actives such that I will actually be taking a break from the ingredients in alphamine.
If this is not possible and I just have to deal with a non-stim alternative, then let me know! :)
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You should check out our Fitmax. It's not stim free, but it's low stim and wouldn't hinder your break from alphamine. I actually take it PWO while I'm running alphamine. We've got a couple logs going right now as well as good reviews at NP. And since you're in Australia, you can get the exclusive kiwi strawberry flavor which we currently only sell in Australia!
 
have a look at conquer, its a different type of stimulant feeling than alphamine...i enjoyed it much more, cleaner feeling

but in austrailia i think you can get your hands on dexaprine powder....if your looking for a stimulant, thats the one to go with
 
Conquer and Focus are some good options.
 
veaderko said:
Conquer and Focus are some good options.
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This^^^ and supersize or ultraReps for another option.
I enjoy maximize intense too. Any of these would be good options without any yohimbe to worry about.
 
I don't understand why if Alphamine has been suitable for your needs as a preworkout why you do not just continue to use it OP. It's not as if using it as a preworkout will be counterproductive to your gains during a bulk.
 
kissdadookie said:
I don't understand why if Alphamine has been suitable for your needs as a preworkout why you do not just continue to use it OP. It's not as if using it as a preworkout will be counterproductive to your gains during a bulk.
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Label directions state a 4 week break should be taken after his 8 weeks of usage so I'm assuming that's the reason for his switch.

OP, check out the Controlled Labs section for the sample request thread. You can give White Flood Reborn a try. Right now, it's on sale for $20.
 
Sean1332 said:
Label directions state a 4 week break should be taken after his 8 weeks of usage so I'm assuming that's the reason for his switch.

OP, check out the Controlled Labs section for the sample request thread. You can give White Flood Reborn a try. Right now, it's on sale for $20.
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They all say that but let's be realistic here, going from a stimmed fat burner to a stimmed preworkout is pretty much the same as not cycling.

With that said, WF: Reborn is indeed a pretty good preworkout.
 
Get some conquer, focus Xt, or condense.

Also I would look into Level II IMO gives Alphamine a run for its money.
 
halfhuman said:
Get some conquer, focus Xt, or condense.

Also I would look into Level II IMO gives Alphamine a run for its money.
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Level II > Alphamine in terms of appetite suppression for me. Might be a bad idea to use Level II as a preworkout if one wishes to bulk though, one would barely eat :P
 
With the exception of caffeine, it doesn't look like Cannibal Ferox has any of the same ingredients as Alphamine. Not sure you can pack more stims into a scoop. If nothing else, CNPWayne is still giving out free samples.
 
KrisL said:
With the exception of caffeine, it doesn't look like Cannibal Ferox has any of the same ingredients as Alphamine. Not sure you can pack more stims into a scoop. If nothing else, CNPWayne is still giving out free samples.
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That has higenamine. So higenamine + caffeine is essential 2/3 of the stims in Alphamine.

Alphamine may say use 8 weeks and then take 4 weeks off or something along those lines but that's pretty much due to covering their butts legally. In practical real world terms, if one wishes to cycle off of Alphamine, jumping on to another stimulant based product is not cycling off of anything at all. You either choose to cycle off of stims or you don't. With that said, there's also really no real good reason to cycle off of these stim products unless one has gained a tolerance and wishes to sensitize themselves to stimulant products again.
 
Stimul8.

It's a stronger stim then alphamine but offers great thermogenic, appetite suppression and fat burning as well.
 
Focus XT is a great option; mild stim but provides awesome focus. If you're looking for more, you can add caffeine or bulk pump ingredients as well.

White flood is a pre i enjoy as well
 
Oh, and OP, The Focus XT blend is the same for the stimmed version as it is for the non-caffenated. The 200mg Caffeine is listed independently from the rest of the prop blend.
 
Is there any problem taking focusxt caffeine free version and alpha gpc toghether?
 
kissdadookie said:
Might be too much choline so you might get some sides. Depends on how much Alpha-GPC you are planning on adding in.
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what kind of sides would I get. It would be about 1200mg gpc about 6 hours before the fxt
 
fightnews said:
Is there any problem taking focusxt caffeine free version and alpha gpc toghether?
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I wouldnt. The dose in FXT is quite hefty and using too much can have the opposite effect. I'm not too sure at which dose this occurs, but I can't recommend it.
 
Jiigzz said:
I wouldnt. The dose in FXT is quite hefty and using too much can have the opposite effect. I'm not too sure at which dose this occurs, but I can't recommend it.
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OK thanks I will take that advice and skip the fxt
 
kissdadookie said:
That has higenamine. So higenamine + caffeine is essential 2/3 of the stims in Alphamine.

Alphamine may say use 8 weeks and then take 4 weeks off or something along those lines but that's pretty much due to covering their butts legally. In practical real world terms, if one wishes to cycle off of Alphamine, jumping on to another stimulant based product is not cycling off of anything at all. You either choose to cycle off of stims or you don't. With that said, there's also really no real good reason to cycle off of these stim products unless one has gained a tolerance and wishes to sensitize themselves to stimulant products again.
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Yeah the reason I wanted a break from alphamine was due to their instructions... as well as the fact that I don't want to become desensitized due to prolonged use. But yes you're exactly right with what you said earlier in that using another stim preworkout in place of alphamine doesn't really count as cycling... which is why I think i'm going to go for a non-stim PWO :)
 
Jiigzz said:
Oh, and OP, The Focus XT blend is the same for the stimmed version as it is for the non-caffenated. The 200mg Caffeine is listed independently from the rest of the prop blend.
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Great, thanks for that! :) Shame it only comes in the one flavour :'(
 
mirra250 said:
Hey guys - unfortunately my 8 week run with alphamine as a fat burner/pre-workout has come to an end.
I really enjoyed the moderate stimmed feeling I got from it for my workouts. Are there any other stimulant based preworkouts I could use whilst in my 4 week rest from it? Or is it wise to just stay away from all stims for 4 weeks...
I'm currently about 5 weeks through an ABE and run and 3-4weeks through ArA and F95 runs as well (3-4 workouts per week).
Thanks!
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Check out level 2 from Formutech. It's really good. I have been blown away by it. I ran it with X Factor and Slin Sane and had some if the best results I ve eer had from a stack.

Level 2 give you tons I energy, focus, and you sweat like crazy. It really put me in the mood to push myself. The ArA gave me great pumps and I took the SlinSane with breakfast, pre workout meal and post workout meal, about 80 carbs per meal and I was very lean and full.
 
next time I cut im going back to ephedrine caffeine stack low dose
 
mirra250 said:
Great, thanks for that! :) Shame it only comes in the one flavour :'(
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Focus XT Fruit Punch is one of the best FP's i've had; no joke. I generally dislike FP but this one is actually quite good. Mix it with like 500-600mls water, add ice and a splash of OJ and its awesome for a hot summers day.
 
fightnews said:
what kind of sides would I get. It would be about 1200mg gpc about 6 hours before the fxt
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Nausea mostly. Possibly brain fog (I know, this sounds ironic since most people see choline supplementation being a solution to clear brain fog). You might become moody as well.

I definitely think your plan there appears to be too much choline. Let's put it this way, even when I take a racetam stack, I'm only supplementing with 300 mg of alpha-GPC with each racetam stack dose.
 
kissdadookie said:
Nausea mostly. Possibly brain fog (I know, this sounds ironic since most people see choline supplementation being a solution to clear brain fog). You might become moody as well. I definitely think your plan there appears to be too much choline. Let's put it this way, even when I take a racetam stack, I'm only supplementing with 300 mg of alpha-GPC with each racetam stack dose.
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All about finding the appropriate dosage. Some people will make frequent bathroom trips as well with too much choline, hence why we often suggest starting with 1/2 a scoop of Focus XT.
 
aaronuconn said:
All about finding the appropriate dosage. Some people will make frequent bathroom trips as well with too much choline, hence why we often suggest starting with 1/2 a scoop of Focus XT.
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The bathroom poopage has more to do with bitartrate. For some reason, that can and usually does cause GI distress at higher dosages. Alpha-GPC on the other hand doesn't have that effect but if you take too much of it, I have noticed that for me personally, my mind is not as sharp ironically enough.
 
kissdadookie said:
The bathroom poopage has more to do with bitartrate. For some reason, that can and usually does cause GI distress at higher dosages. Alpha-GPC on the other hand doesn't have that effect but if you take too much of it, I have noticed that for me personally, my mind is not as sharp ironically enough.
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Dat dere inverse U-curve.
 
kissdadookie said:
The bathroom poopage has more to do with bitartrate. For some reason, that can and usually does cause GI distress at higher dosages. Alpha-GPC on the other hand doesn't have that effect but if you take too much of it, I have noticed that for me personally, my mind is not as sharp ironically enough.
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Ah, good information Kdd!
 
Our new Level 2 thermogenic has been compared to Alphamine quite a bit in our logs. You may want to check that out
 
Does everyone find alphamine stimulating? I haven't tried it, but my one buddy who tried it doesn't really feel anything from it. Reason I ask is because I'm looking for a mild stimulant preworkout, like ergopharms amp was. But even amp had a bit much caffeine for me.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Does everyone find alphamine stimulating? I haven't tried it, but my one buddy who tried it doesn't really feel anything from it. Reason I ask is because I'm looking for a mild stimulant preworkout, like ergopharms amp was. But even amp had a bit much caffeine for me.
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I found its stim feeling to be very mild - it doesn't smack you in the face as such. I haven't tried amp but I would definitely call alphamine mild and I don't have a high tolerance to stims or anything :)
 
What Supps (other than fish oil, creatine, and a multi) should I not take in conjunction with Alphamine. And what success have y'all had on the dosing schemes? I was crashing hard by 1pm when I took just one scoop @8am or pre workout
 
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