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Dave's Newest bulk into cut for show. AAS, SLIN and GH

Holy **** some of you guys run so much gear haha, I've never even gone over 600mg a week of anything. I've always been about low doses tho.
 
Holy **** some of you guys run so much gear haha, I've never even gone over 600mg a week of anything. I've always been about low doses tho.

I'm such a natty small guy my coach advocates large test doses low everything else. I totally agree with it but fuk it. If I was to run 1 cycle a year like Tech you better believe its gunna be 20 weeks and totally insane.
 
On another note. Holding off on peptide discussion until tomorrow. I keep finding stuff and reading like a mofo. I'm gunna melt your fukin brains with some knowledge on healing.
 
I'm such a natty small guy my coach advocates large test doses low everything else. I totally agree with it but fuk it. If I was to run 1 cycle a year like Tech you better believe its gunna be 20 weeks and totally insane.

Exactly! And to be honest, I only cycle once every 2 to 3 years. I would like to do this the rest of my life, so I want to keep my cycles short.

Hurdle: you can blame DD for my gram of test and EQ ;) He said don't be a bi*ch and do it!

What do ou guys think, AI is completely unnecessary at this point...
 
Exactly! And to be honest, I only cycle once every 2 to 3 years. I would like to do this the rest of my life, so I want to keep my cycles short.

Hurdle: you can blame DD for my gram of test and EQ ;) He said don't be a bi*ch and do it!

What do ou guys think, AI is completely unnecessary at this point...

Hold off but you need to get bloods around week 6. EQ aromatizes slow. If your number has doubled by then you need to low dose an AI to be safe. Even if for 2-4 weeks then retest to be sure.
 
Hold off but you need to get bloods around week 6. EQ aromatizes slow. If your number has doubled by then you need to low dose an AI to be safe. Even if for 2-4 weeks then retest to be sure.

Sh*t, sorry guys, I forgot to mention what week I'm on,

These bloods were taken 2 days ago which is smack in the middle if week 8.
 
Exactly! And to be honest, I only cycle once every 2 to 3 years. I would like to do this the rest of my life, so I want to keep my cycles short. Hurdle: you can blame DD for my gram of test and EQ ;) He said don't be a bi*ch and do it! What do ou guys think, AI is completely unnecessary at this point...
lol, it's more jealously than anything fellas
 
Hold off but you need to get bloods around week 6. EQ aromatizes slow. If your number has doubled by then you need to low dose an AI to be safe. Even if for 2-4 weeks then retest to be sure.
i second this, eq takes about 6 weeks to kick In, Nevermind just read u were on week 8 haha. Glad to hear that new 300 was good, might have to check that out
 
They're over blown concerns, IMO. 5-15mg M1T back in the day with no supports only got mine to like 43? Raised about 20points and back to normal 2 weeks after I was done.

I knew the typical concern was over blown I just figured they'd be elevated a little.
 
I never really paid much attention to my liver values. As long as I drink lots of water and eat clean they arent anything crazy. I just say eff it and pay attention to the other stuff
 
Hahaha, that mother ****ers test said 7000+, I wanna see the docs face when he reads that...
 
The troll rep has entered the old school section, hopefully he will avoid posting any any of the really threads.

I'm interested to hear what I've found Dave, if I've been on dats site u can literally get lost I the info
 
OK, so I literally just did my first injection today (Test E), no issues with it at all, no PIP so far or anything like that (I watched a few videos on how to without pain and whatnot before I decided to start).

I'm only running 500mg a week (for 15 weeks) and had planned on doing .5mg Adex on both inject days and the day in between, what do you guys think? Should I nix the Adex unless I need it or use it just to avoid any issues just in case because it's my first cycle?
 
OK, so I literally just did my first injection today (Test E), no issues with it at all, no PIP so far or anything like that (I watched a few videos on how to without pain and whatnot before I decided to start). I'm only running 500mg a week (for 15 weeks) and had planned on doing .5mg Adex on both inject days and the day in between, what do you guys think? Should I nix the Adex unless I need it or use it just to avoid any issues just in case because it's my first cycle?

I'm pretty estro sensitive. I always always always use an AI. On bigger doses I'll use a bit of nolva or I've recently discovered ralox. The best bet would be to get bloods done around week 4 to see where estro is at and adjust accordingly.

This is your first cycle? I thought you had used before. Enjoy it!
 
I'm pretty estro sensitive. I always always always use an AI. On bigger doses I'll use a bit of nolva or I've recently discovered ralox. The best bet would be to get bloods done around week 4 to see where estro is at and adjust accordingly.

This is your first cycle? I thought you had used before. Enjoy it!

Would you not use the AI for those first 4 week's before the blood test and decide afterwards?

Yeah lol, I've set up a few cycles for guys while I was in the Army but never used myself. I even have a bunch of DS that I bought during various intro sales (and ban sales) that I figure I'll get around to using eventually.
 
Because of my e2 sensitivity I'd use it from the start. You could try to not use it at first and if you need if bring it in
 
well jim its your first cycle this is where you start learning when to an ai. i wouldnt use it until its obvious you need it. then you will know if you are estro sensitive or not. thats why its important your first real cycle to stick to just test. good luck, stay close everyone in this thread will give you solid advice.
 
Would you not use the AI for those first 4 week's before the blood test and decide afterwards?

Yeah lol, I've set up a few cycles for guys while I was in the Army but never used myself. I even have a bunch of DS that I bought during various intro sales (and ban sales) that I figure I'll get around to using eventually.

I hope you grow tit taaaays
 
OK, so I literally just did my first injection today (Test E), no issues with it at all, no PIP so far or anything like that (I watched a few videos on how to without pain and whatnot before I decided to start). I'm only running 500mg a week (for 15 weeks) and had planned on doing .5mg Adex on both inject days and the day in between, what do you guys think? Should I nix the Adex unless I need it or use it just to avoid any issues just in case because it's my first cycle?

Jim lower your test dose. 1st cycle doesn't need to be that high. I've seen plenty of guys grow from only 250/week. As far as the AI goes, you've kind of got to learn when and wear to use it. If your lower your dose you could probably get away with no AI. Other wise a .5 Adex E3D is probably fine.
 
I'm all natty baby!

DD, this thread fuking rocks! It's seriously like a super thread of DD turning into the sickest looking monster and tons of random other things. Spot on for AMs greatest thread in history.

The mods probably spark up some popcorn and just read our discussions.
 
Jim lower your test dose. 1st cycle doesn't need to be that high. I've seen plenty of guys grow from only 250/week. As far as the AI goes, you've kind of got to learn when and wear to use it. If your lower your dose you could probably get away with no AI. Other wise a .5 Adex E3D is probably fine.

Isn't 500mg a pretty standard dose for a first cycle?
 
Isn't 500mg a pretty standard dose for a first cycle?

Yeah for younger guys. If your older then 250mg will make you 18 again. That's kinda make sense?

On another note... anyone else have wicked aggression with var? My last cycle I didn't really have any and this cycle is identical except the var addition. I never experienced it from the var I used in the past but it wasn't this high or this quality. Its the only thing I can think of. My temper has just been really short. Not over little things but stuff that would piss me off REALLY piss me off now lol.
 
it is standard for the new generations of users. but 10 years ago the cycles i run were unheard of. people can get great gains of 250mg, but not many people are willing to do that. 200mg of test cyp will put me at a test serm of around 1200. which is high. so 250 would i guess put you around 1300-1400 which is way higher than that of an 18 year old. my trt dose puts me at 900ng which is what i crusie at and is a little higher than most people my age have naturally.
 
Yeah for younger guys. If your older then 250mg will make you 18 again. That's kinda make sense?

On another note... anyone else have wicked aggression with var? My last cycle I didn't really have any and this cycle is identical except the var addition. I never experienced it from the var I used in the past but it wasn't this high or this quality. Its the only thing I can think of.

yeah especially at that dose, you should notice some serious aggression and strength. at least i did. i was running 100/100/150 anavar/winny/trenace, its my new favorite blast
 
haha we posted that **** at the same time about newer users
 
yeah especially at that dose, you should notice some serious aggression and strength. at least i did. i was running 100/100/150 anavar/winny/trenace, its my new favorite blast

Ok. I'm not losing it lol. I'm a chill dude and hold my temper at bay.usually pretty well. Just been hard these last few days
 
plus i promise the var you are on is purer than most other brands. so your actually getting the dose you think you are. thats why people uses to only take 50mg-80mg. dont drop the dose, just remember your on a high dose of roids
 
plus i promise the var you are on is purer than most other brands. so your actually getting the dose you think you are. thats why people uses to only take 50mg-80mg. dont drop the dose, just remember your on a high dose of roids

I aint gunna drop the dose!! Its nothing I cant handle and its nothing near what a gram of tren and 125mg of test gave me for a temper. I just noticed I had a crazy temper because some dude pulled out in front of me and I slammed my brakes on and honked. He flipped me off so I got out of my truck in the middle of the street... he saw me coming at him (I wasnt wearing a shirt) and he sped off fast. I have never done that. I saw red and was gunna beat his ass for almost making me tbone him. Stupid teenage wanna be ganster in his donked caddy. I got home and put my pistol inside my house instead of carrying it in my truck lol. I legally conceal carry but last thing I need is a "intimidation" charge hahaha
 
My temper def isn't as short on var as other compounds, but it is a little shorter than normal. We can't be getting out of the car down here in Florida anymore, they have a kinda self defense law they passed that if someone is being an aggressor towards you in your vehicle you can shoot them in self defense. I don't know the specifics but that's enough to keep my rage inside the vehicle haha
 
My temper def isn't as short on var as other compounds, but it is a little shorter than normal. We can't be getting out of the car down here in Florida anymore, they have a kinda self defense law they passed that if someone is being an aggressor towards you in your vehicle you can shoot them in self defense. I don't know the specifics but that's enough to keep my rage inside the vehicle haha

Same here bro. I just lost it plus if he'd pulled so would I. I'm a sick shot at 30 yards and shorter with my colt. I mean im SICK as fuk I can dump a clip and reload while walking and put all rounds in chest at 25yrd to 10. His little gansta ass woulda tilted it to the side and missed everything. I was just too mad to care.
 
Same here bro. I just lost it plus if he'd pulled so would I. I'm a sick shot at 30 yards and shorter with my colt. I mean im SICK as fuk I can dump a clip and reload while walking and put all rounds in chest at 25yrd to 10. His little gansta ass woulda tilted it to the side and missed everything. I was just too mad to care.

I know when I want to fight at the drop of a hat I take a .25 arimidex I think my e2 going up and I'm sensitive.
 
Same here bro. I just lost it plus if he'd pulled so would I. I'm a sick shot at 30 yards and shorter with my colt. I mean im SICK as fuk I can dump a clip and reload while walking and put all rounds in chest at 25yrd to 10. His little gansta ass woulda tilted it to the side and missed everything. I was just too mad to care.
but...was he skinnier than your practice target??? Haha
 
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