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gspyropo

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i am 29 yrs , i am lifting for 12 years and my stats are: weight-66 kgs
height-1,77cm and bf% about 5-6%

i plan to run
test prop 1-8 weeks /350mg per week
masteron 1-8 weeks
and anavar 7-11 weeks at 30mg per day...

whats your opinion?

i plan to add some lean mass and hardeness...is it possible?
 
gspyropo said:
i am 29 yrs , i am lifting for 12 years and my stats are: weight-66 kgs
height-1,77cm and bf% about 5-6%

i plan to run
test prop 1-8 weeks /350mg per week
masteron 1-8 weeks
and anavar 7-11 weeks at 30mg per day...

whats your opinion?

i plan to add some lean mass and hardeness...is it possible?
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That's what most steroids do so I believe its 100% possible since those are all steroids.

I hope that mast is prop also and I don't understand running anavar so far out of the test base range. And at a low dose.
 
Matthersby said:
That's what most steroids do so I believe its 100% possible since those are all steroids.

I hope that mast is prop also and I don't understand running anavar so far out of the test base range. And at a low dose.[/Q

you are maybe right as far as the low dose of anavar...
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Matthersby said:
That's what most steroids do so I believe its 100% possible since those are all steroids.

I hope that mast is prop also and I don't understand running anavar so far out of the test base range. And at a low dose.[/Q

you are maybe right as far as the low dose of anavar...
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Up the Var to at least 50mg/day and run it simultaneously with Test and Mast.
 
I don't mind the var as a finisher in that cycle. You may benefit from a kicker, though; dbol is typical but for dry gains sd may work. I'd lengthen it to 16 weeks and run it like:

Test 1-16
Mast 1-16
Dbol or sd 1-4
Anavar 12-16

For the purposes of lean bulking tren ace may be better than mast.
 
gspyropo said:
i am 29 yrs , i am lifting for 12 years and my stats are: weight-66 kgs height-1,77cm and bf% about 5-6% i plan to run test prop 1-8 weeks /350mg per week masteron 1-8 weeks and anavar 7-11 weeks at 30mg per day... whats your opinion? i plan to add some lean mass and hardeness...is it possible?
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Lifting for 12 years yet only sitting at 66kgs?? I think you need to work on your diet a bit before going down the hormone route. If you haven't got your diet dialled in then you won't put on mass, steroids or not.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Lifting for 12 years yet only sitting at 66kgs?? I think you need to work on your diet a bit before going down the hormone route. If you haven't got your diet dialled in then you won't put on mass, steroids or not.
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its my choice to stay as lean as possible all year round..my bf% is about 4-6% all year and i am trying to gain as lean as possible....i avoid consuming carbs, and i choose to consume some aroynd my workout....
i have run test enathete + boldenone last year...
i am working out twice daily...being more specific i run on a treadmill about an hour every morning with empty stomach at 18km/h (believe me about the speed)...and i am lifting weights on aftrenoon...
 
gspyropo said:
its my choice to stay as lean as possible all year round..my bf% is about 4-6% all year and i am trying to gain as lean as possible....i avoid consuming carbs, and i choose to consume some aroynd my workout....
i have run test enathete + boldenone last year...
i am working out twice daily...being more specific i run on a treadmill about an hour every morning with empty stomach at 18km/h (believe me about the speed)...and i am lifting weights on aftrenoon...
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I choose to think this sounds dreadfully unpleasant.
 
gspyropo said:
i am 29 yrs , i am lifting for 12 years and my stats are: weight-66 kgs
height-1,77cm and bf% about 5-6%

i plan to run
test prop 1-8 weeks /350mg per week
masteron 1-8 weeks
and anavar 7-11 weeks at 30mg per day...

whats your opinion?

i plan to add some lean mass and hardeness...is it possible?
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You will be fine with what you laid out bro. If your bodyfat is that low the var will show at 30mg. It won't be strong but pump will be there as well as hardness.. not like 75-100mg but it will work. Depending on diet you will get your desired results with that cycle.

Everyone has an opinion on what THEY think will work. Nothing you are doing in that is crazy or unsafe. Try it out and see how it works for you. Ignore the "has to be this dose" or "you need this" its BS. You do you and just don't do something stupid like run tren at a gram for 20weeks or some crazy sh*t lol.
 
DangerDave said:
You will be fine with what you laid out bro. If your bodyfat is that low the var will show at 30mg. It won't be strong but pump will be there as well as hardness.. not like 75-100mg but it will work. Depending on diet you will get your desired results with that cycle.

Everyone has an opinion on what THEY think will work. Nothing you are doing in that is crazy or unsafe. Try it out and see how it works for you. Ignore the "has to be this dose" or "you need this" its BS. You do you and just don't do something stupid like run tren at a gram for 20weeks or some crazy sh*t lol.
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thanks for your reply and i appreciate your opinion...i support the fact that there is no exact dose for everyone....i ll try to run a cycle as safe as possible with as lean as possible gains...
 
Matthersby said:
I admire your dedication to staying lean.

I'm fat.
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i was some years ago a ''bulky'' man.....i was 90 kg but too heavy for me,,,i i was not comfortable and my workout included only lifting weight and no cardio at all...i could not imagine to do super set or tri sets at all !!!! sisce then i chose to stay as lean as possible and to change my workout routine...my workout now includes many super sets, tri sets always with heavy weights and lot of cardio!!!!
 
gspyropo said:
thanks for your reply and i appreciate your opinion...i support the fact that there is no exact dose for everyone....i ll try to run a cycle as safe as possible with as lean as possible gains...
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Your welcome bro. Like I said you don't have any unsafe doses or anything crazy. There's always ways to get your cycle better but try it out and see how those doses work. Next cycle bump them up and see how you like it. Enjoy your cycle and GET GAINZ!
 
Looks good. I'd still up the var a tad, depending on what your tablets are dosed. Also I'd change the var the whole time. 8 weeks is doable with a good liver support. Since your using prop start PCT right away. No need to wait two weeks.
 
DangerDave said:
Your welcome bro. Like I said you don't have any unsafe doses or anything crazy. There's always ways to get your cycle better but try it out and see how those doses work. Next cycle bump them up and see how you like it. Enjoy your cycle and GET GAINZ!
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thanks bro...i ll enjoy my cycle and i hope to have good results.....!!!!!
 
my cycle with test prop + masteron it is assumed a cutting cycle or what...i mean what results should i expect from these 2 oils?
 
gspyropo said:
my cycle with test prop + masteron it is assumed a cutting cycle or what...i mean what results should i expect from these 2 oils?
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It'll be diet dependent. Mast is not gonna build any muscle but it'll compliment test nicely.

It is always a good idea to think about your goals first and then pick steroids that'll suit that goal well... Now it seems that you bought gear first and now you're trying to decide the goal that'd be easiest to reach with those compounds.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
It'll be diet dependent. Mast is not gonna build any muscle but it'll compliment test nicely.

It is always a good idea to think about your goals first and then pick steroids that'll suit that goal well... Now it seems that you bought gear first and now you're trying to decide the goal that'd be easiest to reach with those compounds.
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i haven't bought anything yet but i am wondering about the results of the cycle i am planning to run...hardness and as ripped as possible are my goals
 
Ever thought of using tren? I finally took the jump to tren and I will never run again without it! Stuff is amazing! !!! Im losing weight and simultaneously putting on muscle..its crazy
 
pillsRgood said:
Ever thought of using tren? I finally took the jump to tren and I will never run again without it! Stuff is amazing! !!! Im losing weight and simultaneously putting on muscle..its crazy
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i agree about tren but i want something not as toxic as tren
 
gspyropo said:
i agree about tren but i want something not as toxic as tren
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Tren isn't toxic. That's bullsh*t and plenty of people here can prove it with bloodwork.. me included. DH cruises year round on it and has better lipids than most people on a 4 week PH cycle.

And gohard.. you ever run Test, Mast and var for a cut?

You can cut on any steroid. The determining factor is diet. If you want a hard look, use high androgens. If you want size use an anabolic. Strength use a blend of anabolic/androgenic compound like a 30/70 split. Vascularity use a DHT compound with a hardening effect and drop bodyfat. The list goes on. Its not about WHAT compound its the RIGHT diet and routine. I can cut on deca and a gram of sust a week... or any compound for that matter.
 
DangerDave said:
Tren isn't toxic. That's bullsh*t and plenty of people here can prove it with bloodwork.. me included. DH cruises year round on it and has better lipids than most people on a 4 week PH cycle.

And gohard.. you ever run Test, Mast and var for a cut?

You can cut on any steroid. The determining factor is diet. If you want a hard look, use high androgens. If you want size use an anabolic. Strength use a blend of anabolic/androgenic compound like a 30/70 split. Vascularity use a DHT compound with a hardening effect and drop bodyfat. The list goes on. Its not about WHAT compound its the RIGHT diet and routine. I can cut on deca and a gram of sust a week... or any compound for that matter.
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No I haven't but I've ran test and mast with other orals... not Var though. I know plenty of guys who love that combo but I just can't justify the price - it may transform physique but I'm a powerlifter so Var is not the most interesting compound for me.

I agree, it's possible to cut on any steroid.

I also agree that tren is not as toxic as people say it is. My bloodwork was perfect when I was on Tren but I have admit that I was taking only 350mg/week - many guys run it much higher.
 
ΤΗΑΝΚ you both for your guidance...my diet is very strict all year round, so that not a problem for me, i am used to eat very clean!!
 
DangerDave said:
Tren isn't toxic. That's bullsh*t and plenty of people here can prove it with bloodwork.. me included. DH cruises year round on it and has better lipids than most people on a 4 week PH cycle.

And gohard.. you ever run Test, Mast and var for a cut?

You can cut on any steroid. The determining factor is diet. If you want a hard look, use high androgens. If you want size use an anabolic. Strength use a blend of anabolic/androgenic compound like a 30/70 split. Vascularity use a DHT compound with a hardening effect and drop bodyfat. The list goes on. Its not about WHAT compound its the RIGHT diet and routine. I can cut on deca and a gram of sust a week... or any compound for that matter.
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could you please give me an example o that ' DHT compound with a hardening effect '?
 
my plans concerning my summer cycle changed,,,,,i ll run test prop + primo (instead of masteron) + anavar for 12 weeks..
i replaced masteron with primo because i read that masteron influences the libido and the sperm as well in a great measure!!
 
gspyropo said:
my plans concerning my summer cycle changed,,,,,i ll run test prop + primo (instead of masteron) + anavar for 12 weeks..
i replaced masteron with primo because i read that masteron influences the libido and the sperm as well in a great measure!!
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Masteron will make your libido skyrocket.
 
τhat my cycle...what do you think?

test prop primo anavar
week 1 300mg 200mg 30mg /day
week 2 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 3 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 4 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 5 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 6 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 7 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 8 300mg 300mg 40mg/day
week 9 300mg 200mg 30mg/day
 
gspyropo said:
?hat my cycle...what do you think? test prop primo anavar week 1 300mg 200mg 30mg /day week 2 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 3 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 4 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 5 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 6 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 7 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 8 300mg 300mg 40mg/day week 9 300mg 200mg 30mg/day
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I'd only run your Anavar for 8 weeks, but start it in week 3, take the dose up to 50mg a day for week 8 and 9 and run it at 80mg or even 100mg a day for a week past your test prop (i.e. week 10) before starting PCT (in week 11).
 
i am still not sure about the doses...are they too much for me...is it too risky for me cause i don't have many steroid cycles before/???
 
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