Jackedjack
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Is the new erase pro a suicidal ai, I can never get a straight answer
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niclas90
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1. Yes, you will die. Just like all the other users, including myself.
2. Yes, it's an AI. That's the whole point of it.
Driven2lift
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1. Yes, you will die. Just like all the other users, including myself.
2. Yes, it's an AI. That's the whole point of it.
His question was a serious one...
It has been asked a few times without an answer so far and I can understand the want to know, as if it is not suicidal some users will want to taper off at the end of a run
Jackedjack
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thank you, at least some understand the rebound affects.
Driven2lift
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Bump?
niclas90
Member
Yeah, i found out. This actually is pretty interesting. I've been googling around for an hour or so, and can't find any scientific info on the AI effect of DHAA (Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid). A little odd that no reps have answered this, since they seems to be very active in general.
Jackedjack
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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2965731/#__ffn_sectitle this article seems to describe it has aromatase inhibition properties, but it does not give its mode of action.
niclas90
Member
Exactly, also what i found. I am not doubting the functionality of the compound, Cooper posted some pretty convincing proof.
I'm just also wondering if it's actually suicidal, like Aromasin, or it's effects are reversibel, like Arimidex for example.
Jackedjack
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. Cooper is a smart man and I'm sure he has proof and answers. So cooper if you want to chime in that would be greatly appreciated.Exactly, also what i found. I am not doubting the functionality of the compound, Cooper posted some pretty convincing proof.
mr.cooper69
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You guys need to PM me in the future! I don't see all the threads.
First, I can go in depth at a later time, but rebound is a fairly nonexistent phenomenon due to the rapid adaptability of gene transcription. It was never an issue to begin with. Competitive vs suicidal AIs simply give fast on-fast off effects, vs slow on-slow off. The evidence at this point is that it is an allosteric inhibitor of aromatase. This could be suicidal or short-lived; the data isn't there, and the bloodwork doesn't tell a clear-cut tale. One thing that definitely isn't observed though is an INCREASE in estrogen (aka rebound), so write that off your list of concerns
First, I can go in depth at a later time, but rebound is a fairly nonexistent phenomenon due to the rapid adaptability of gene transcription. It was never an issue to begin with. Competitive vs suicidal AIs simply give fast on-fast off effects, vs slow on-slow off. The evidence at this point is that it is an allosteric inhibitor of aromatase. This could be suicidal or short-lived; the data isn't there, and the bloodwork doesn't tell a clear-cut tale. One thing that definitely isn't observed though is an INCREASE in estrogen (aka rebound), so write that off your list of concerns
SweetLou321
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But the blood work does show a decrease in estrogen? I am curious in the new erase for use as an a.I. while on trt. Used the old erase at 2 a day for a long time with great success. Wondering how one in this situation could use the new one.
Whacked
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Ditto here
Long time user of OG Erase.
Looking for comparable/efficacious replacement for my TRT
Long time user of OG Erase.
Looking for comparable/efficacious replacement for my TRT
SweetLou321
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I pm'd natty who uses the new one for trt and he says 1-2 keeps his estrogen in the 30s.
SweetLou321
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I understand this and would love to see some feedback myself.